Evidence of Heart Shaped Sticker on Duct Tape Destroyed

[countzero]

If I were on the jury and this evidence was presented some way, i would discount it completely.
But I would have other evidence to ponder.

Anytime there is the perception that there was carelessness or error, it can be a hurdle. If it was the only evidence it would be a bigger problem, but as it is it will probably not mean too much if the other evidence is presented clearly and without question.

lol. Ya, what she said. And she only took four sentences to say what I would have said in four very long paragraphs.

 

[Kentjbkent]

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/12278167/Casey-Anthony--heckel-tape-29Sept09

Was this in the doc dump this week? Interesting stats on where this particular tape was sold, etc...

 

[notthatsmart]

I will simply refer you to the title of the thread. There is no longer any residue to test.

BUT there is still the 31 days KC partied while her child was missing [per her own story to LE] KC told LE Caylee was taken,not that she was out having a good time with the nanny.Different from what she had been telling her friends and family.
There is the stinky car she abandoned.The stolen checks she managed to take her mind off of Caylee with.Retail therapy all caught on tape.
There's the phone records that show no nanny.The empty apt she took LE to.The tattoo,the tape of her strolling through Blockbusters right after she alleged Caylee was taken.There's no job at the non office she took LE to and no sign of a Blackberry.
There are tons of texts where she doesn't seem at all concerned about Caylee.There's the borrowed shovel,the car backed into the garage[unusual for her],all the items found with Caylee connected back to her home.
There's more and it's more than enough.
IMO we could start a list on everything G and C have done that makes KC look even more guilty if that's possible.I suspect LE and the SA have theirs started.
Again,all just my opinion,of course.

I think I could dispute most of what you said, but I dont know which thread to do that in respectfully. I dont think any of what you said really points to guilt. Just a typical young woman going about her business. I dont approve a the way she acted, but it doesn't point to guilt at all.

On topic though, I think were down to just opinion now on the heart shaped sticker. I dont believe it ever existed and I dont believe that fbi agent is going to testify that it did. Like her boss said about the trunk image, its just too speculative.

 

[AZlawyer]

The one about Zani and Caylee being gone from Sawgrass. I dont know that she had the other story. I haven't seen an interview on that. I heard that story came from Lee, not her. Which makes it hearsay on my part and lee's part.

Luckily, the hearsay rule has some exclusions and exceptions, including one for admissions of the defendant.

 

[JBean]

On topic though, I think were down to just opinion now on the heart shaped sticker. I dont believe it ever existed and I dont believe that fbi agent is going to testify that it did. Like her boss said about the trunk image, its just too speculative.

LOL, I was just thinking they better not try and present the residue and the outline back to back because they could have a real problem there. jmho.

 

[chefmom]

I think I could dispute most of what you said, but I dont know which thread to do that in respectfully. I dont think any of what you said really points to guilt. Just a typical young woman going about her business. I dont approve a the way she acted, but it doesn't point to guilt at all.

On topic though, I think were down to just opinion now on the heart shaped sticker. I dont believe it ever existed and I dont believe that fbi agent is going to testify that it did. Like her boss said about the trunk image, its just too speculative.

BBM

With all due respect, do you really think that a typical mother who has just had her child kidnapped simply goes on about her day, business as usual, forgetting to call the police, dating it up with her boyfriend, stealing, lying, "ugly coping" as JB said? I am a mother and I can assure you that this is NOT how a "typical young woman" would act. JMO tho.

 

[MD MOMMY]

I think I could dispute most of what you said, but I dont know which thread to do that in respectfully. I dont think any of what you said really points to guilt. Just a typical young woman going about her business. I dont approve a the way she acted, but it doesn't point to guilt at all.

On topic though, I think were down to just opinion now on the heart shaped sticker. I dont believe it ever existed and I dont believe that fbi agent is going to testify that it did. Like her boss said about the trunk image, its just too speculative.

You're right that is a typical woman going about her business ordinarily... BUT not when your 2 year-old child has been kidnapped. Do you honestly think this is how the mother of a missing child acts..just going about her business? I know you backtracked on the sentence following, but I am a bit confused.

 

[ZsaZsa]

I think I could dispute most of what you said, but I dont know which thread to do that in respectfully. I dont think any of what you said really points to guilt. Just a typical young woman going about her business. I dont approve a the way she acted, but it doesn't point to guilt at all.

On topic though, I think were down to just opinion now on the heart shaped sticker. I dont believe it ever existed and I dont believe that fbi agent is going to testify that it did. Like her boss said about the trunk image, its just too speculative.

I think that you and Cindy Anthony are the only people I have ever heard say that Casey's behavior after her child "went missing' was that of a typical young woman going about her business.
What part of her behavior was "typical", and "typical" of what?

 

[notthatsmart]

You're right that is a typical woman going about her business ordinarily... BUT not when your 2 year-old child has been kidnapped. Do you honestly think this is how the mother of a missing child acts..just going about her business? I know you backtracked on the sentence following, but I am a bit confused.

I think I posted this before and it is getting off topic. From what I can understand, she did not know her child had been kidnapped based on her testimony to police, So yes this is a normal 22 year old mother that is not married.

How do i get back on topic? Or where can we discuss this?? I would like to debate this.

 

[JBean]

I think I posted this before and it is getting off topic. From what I can understand, she did not know her child had been kidnapped based on her testimony to police, So yes this is a normal 22 year old mother that is not married.

How do i get back on topic? Or where can we discuss this?? I would like to debate this.

You are correct we getting offtopic.
With that said, I have to agree that she did not think her child was kidnapped at all.

back to the residue.

 

[ZsaZsa]

Oh but she did, she told them she had left the child at Sawgrass apts in June and her interview with Police was in July, so for all of that time you think her behavior was "typical" - would you say it was "typical" as compared to the behavior of John Walsh, Mark Klaas, Beth Holloway, Joshua Duckett, many more frantic parents doing absolutely everything in their power to find their missing/murdered children.
Actually in one way you are right, she knew her child was dead, not kidnapped.

 

[RR0004]

I think I could dispute most of what you said, but I dont know which thread to do that in respectfully. I dont think any of what you said really points to guilt. Just a typical young woman going about her business. I dont approve a the way she acted, but it doesn't point to guilt at all.

On topic though, I think were down to just opinion now on the heart shaped sticker. I dont believe it ever existed and I dont believe that fbi agent is going to testify that it did. Like her boss said about the trunk image, its just too speculative.

Well my 23 year old daughter thank goodness is not typical...nor would it be typical of her friends (yes, I polled). They found Casey's behavior repugnant and totally baffling. They so thought Casey did the crime and they weren't even aware of the particulars of the case. I guess I am one lucky mom!

 

[RR0004]

I think I could dispute most of what you said, but I dont know which thread to do that in respectfully. I dont think any of what you said really points to guilt. Just a typical young woman going about her business. I dont approve a the way she acted, but it doesn't point to guilt at all.

On topic though, I think were down to just opinion now on the heart shaped sticker. I dont believe it ever existed and I dont believe that fbi agent is going to testify that it did. Like her boss said about the trunk image, its just too speculative.

Not for nothing...but having read this pretty much all the way through...this confuses the heck out of me.

 

[AZlawyer]

I think I posted this before and it is getting off topic. From what I can understand, she did not know her child had been kidnapped based on her testimony to police, So yes this is a normal 22 year old mother that is not married.

How do i get back on topic? Or where can we discuss this?? I would like to debate this.

BBM

Her story that she gave to the police was that Zanny stole her baby and ran off, leaving her apartment completely vacant and changing her phone number so Casey couldn't contact her. Is that different from "kidnapped"?

The story she later gave her family and the bounty hunters was that Zanny and her sister pushed her down in JB Park and ran off with Caylee, saying they were "teaching her a lesson." That one is obviously a "kidnapping" story.

There is no possible way that either story is consistent with a carefree partying lifestyle for the next 31 days.

 

[AZlawyer]

I think I could dispute most of what you said, but I dont know which thread to do that in respectfully. I dont think any of what you said really points to guilt. Just a typical young woman going about her business. I dont approve a the way she acted, but it doesn't point to guilt at all.

On topic though, I think were down to just opinion now on the heart shaped sticker. I dont believe it ever existed and I dont believe that fbi agent is going to testify that it did. Like her boss said about the trunk image, its just too speculative.

BBM

I agree that the SA is unlikely to present the evidence of the heart outline on the duct tape at this point. The FBI agent's testimony would be admissible (unless excluded as too prejudicial given the slight relevance); I just think it would be a bad call strategically.

And I don't think the FBI agent would ever have testified a sticker existed anyway, just that a shape existed.

 

[Tulessa]

Thank you for correcting me on that. I guess I need to hear it from Casey herself in a police interview to believe it.

And you would believe it? She admitted on interviews that she lied and Judge Strictland said it the best IMO. Ms. Anthony and the truth are strangers.

 

[Valhall]

I know we're supposed to be talking about the sticker residue (at least, I think we are ) but has anybody noticed that in this 1000 pages of documents there are explicits statements that rule out CA, GA and LA's fingerprints on the duct tape, but not one single word about ruling out KC's?

To this date have we seen any forensics that explicitly state there are no KC fingerprints? I don't believe we have.

 

[Tulessa]

I know we're supposed to be talking about the sticker residue (at least, I think we are ) but has anybody noticed that in this 1000 pages of documents there are explicits statements that rule out CA, GA and LA's fingerprints on the duct tape, but not one single word about ruling out KC's?

To this date have we seen any forensics that explicitly state there are no KC fingerprints? I don't believe we have.

And I am still waiting.

 

[MissJames]

I think I posted this before and it is getting off topic. From what I can understand, she did not know her child had been kidnapped based on her testimony to police, So yes this is a normal 22 year old mother that is not married.

How do i get back on topic? Or where can we discuss this?? I would like to debate this.

Well,I guess we just have to agree to disagree.When she told police she left her daughter with the imaginanny ,they were gone when she got back.She was upset,she said.She didn't know where they were and she couldn't find them for the 31 days.She said she did a lot of things,but there is video to disprove it,such as the Blockbuster Video.She said she talked to Caylee.No phone records.Why did she lie?
And since when is stealing from your best friend typical?
No ,KC did not act typical in any way.But you and I don't have to agree ,a jury of 12 does.Even if one or 2 don't agree,it will be a hung jury anf the SA will have a do over.She will be convicted.
I don't think the residue will come in.They don't need it.They have a mountian of other evidence.
Then,IMO the SA will get to work on the other Anthony's.I am a grieving mom and I can tell you there is nothing typical about THEIR behavior.:furious:
All just my own opinion,of course.

 

[notthatsmart]

And you would believe it? She admitted on interviews that she lied and Judge Strictland said it the best IMO. Ms. Anthony and the truth are strangers.

Yes, I think she admitted it under heavy interogation by big tired people that were being very mean to her. I think anyone would answer wrong if three mean people were yelling at them at the same time. I hardly call that an interview.

This so called mountain of evidence that people keep bringing up is about as clear to me as this heart shaped outline. I think some of you are seeing things that just are not there.