Ex-Housekeeper Say Patsy Ramsey Killed JonBenet.

[RiverRat]

You got it.....but trying to find where Patsy admits the truth isn't that easy of a job when one already has a million other things to do!

 

[trixie]

Hey ,no problem I understand! Take your time. I'm looking too. I just really don't think we're going to find anything.

 

[coloradokares]

We know that Patsy was on meds because she told us all about it in her book Death of Innocence. It is also referenced in the Ramseys interviews with the BPD. I will dust the book off and let Patsy tell us herself......Be right Back!

Ok now we are getting somewhere I Knew I read it and that it was Patsy verifying she had taken meds. I looked through every link I had and then started searching the internet. It was in DOI!! Have I ever told you I hate what the strokes did to my brain!! Will you guys put up with me. What I may lack in memory I make up for in sincerity!:blowkiss:

 

[coloradokares]

I know I KNOW that when she had cancer she was on that classification of medication Well I am not going to push myself into another stroke over this. I read a bunch of sites last night I googled and I cannot read anymore Karr stuff or I will be ill. Could be that it was part of conversation I had with a friend and as it happens a lead reporter I know. I am content to say believe as you wish I know what I know but I will keep my trap shut till I can prove it in print.:crazy:

 

[UKGuy]

Patsy was on medication prior to death of JonBenet, so its possible that she was still on some form of medication in the days before JonBenet died. After her death both parents were on Prozac, and Patsy also took Zoloft referenced here http://www.jonbenetindexguide.com/2000ATL-Patsy-Interview-Complete.htm. Check out her foundation for her chemotherapy induced painting: www.patsyramseyfoundation.org/

Also:

Scott Ross interview 2000
http://www.cbn.com/700club/scottross/interviews/jonbenet2.aspx

SCOTT: I don't know if it's a real question or a rhetorical question. Patsy, you were in your 4th stage of ovarian cancer. How long was it before JonBenet's death?

PATSY: It was diagnosed in 92, July of 92.

SCOTT: Okay. Ninety-six percent of people who come to that stage of cancer die. You lived. Now if I understand correctly, you believe you were supernaturally healed by God.

PATSY: Yes, I do.

SCOTT: Is there documentation to go along with that?

PATSY: Yes there is. As a matter of fact I just received a letter from my original oncologist here in Atlanta. He unequivocally believes, knowing where I was and where I am now, there was divine intervention. That was in writing.

SCOTT: So God with foresight with forethought, heals Patsy Ramsey so she could murder her daughter?

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PATSY: She was a participant in the Episcopal church, where I learned about the healing. That was called Cathechesis of the Good Shepherd. And it was a learning environment like the Montesorri style of learning, it was for preschoolers. JonBenet took it when she was about 5 or 6 years old. It was an environment where they learned about the Last Supper. They had a little mustard seed where they would learn about faith. They had a little corner of the room where they learned about baptism and christening, and JonBenet's christening gown was a part of that display. They learned about David and they learned about the Apostles. They polished the silver chalice, and they learned about the colors of Advent and Lent and all of that.

They learned about prayer, and they would have a prayer time in a prayer circle. I have this vivid recollection, this picture in my mind of JonBenet, blowing out this candle. She is kneeling in front of the pint-size altar, blowing out her candle and watching the smoke rise. She would tell me that that is her prayer going up to heaven. She was very spiritual.

SCOTT: Looking at JonBenet, the little girl in that outfit parading there seems to be an exploitation of a child?

PATSY: It wasn't. It was absolutely not. It was something that she and I enjoyed doing together not unlike hundreds of mothers and daughters across this country that do it every weekend of the world. I was driving this weekend to a friend's house and pulled up at a stoplight and in the car next to me were all these pageant clothes hanging there, and I knew where this mother and child had been this afternoon. This wasn't a novelty.

JOHN: We had a very simple approach to our children, we wanted them to try different things and be very good at one thing whatever it was. So we let our kids do a lot of different things. JonBenet took violin lessons, she was going to take rock climbing lessons, she took piano lessons, she took French, she took acting lessons. JonBenet was a performer. If there was a microphone it was in her hand and she was singing and dancing or doing something that was just her genes.

 

[trixie]

coloradokares evidently you haven't read the whole thread. We have ackowleged that Patsy took drugs AFTER jb was killed. We are looking for proof that she took them BEFORE and on the Night JB was killed. Some were saying Patsy drank wine and came home and popped some Klonopin or Zanax and the combo made her snap. I asked for proof she was taking any kind of drug BEFORE JB died. NOBODY can find that. Don't worrry about looking all over, I think most have givien up because it's not there to find. DOI is about Patsy using drugs AFTER JB died and that is not what we are talking about here. I simply ask that if this is someones theory or if someone is merely speculating about Patsy taking drugs that night please say so. Please do not state it as a fact, unless of course you can prove it.
Take care!

 

[Ames]

coloradokares evidently you haven't read the whole thread. We have ackowleged that Patsy took drugs AFTER jb was killed. We are looking for proof that she took them BEFORE and on the Night JB was killed. Some were saying Patsy drank wine and came home and popped some Klonopin or Zanax and the combo made her snap. I asked for proof she was taking any kind of drug BEFORE JB died. NOBODY can find that. Don't worrry about looking all over, I think most have givien up because it's not there to find. DOI is about Patsy using drugs AFTER JB died and that is not what we are talking about here. I simply ask that if this is someones theory or if someone is merely speculating about Patsy taking drugs that night please say so. Please do not state it as a fact, unless of course you can prove it.
Take care!

RR and CK ARE talking about BEFORE JB died.

 

[JMO8778]

Patsy and JR were both questioned about Klonopin,so at the least,this drug was in the house at the time of the murder..whether either took any or not that night,we'll never know,as there were no blood tests immediately done on either of them.I know this doesn't answer your question,though.

 

[Ames]

Patsy and JR were both questioned about Klonopin,so at the least,this drug was in the house at the time of the murder..whether either took any or not that night,we'll never know,as there were no blood tests immediately done on either of them.I know this doesn't answer your question,though.

She took those type meds BEFORE JB's death...whether she took them that night, I haven't a clue. I wasn't there.

I do believe that she took this type of drug PRIOR to JB's death...and ON THE NIGHT of JB's death....she says that she didn't take anything. Trixie just needs to realize that Patsy is a liar.

 

[Ames]

Trixie, I have posted a thread over at FFJ with the question concerning Patsy and Klonopin...or any other drugs...prior to, and the night of JB's death. I will let you know if I find out something. Other posters have already told you that Patsy DID take drugs BEFORE JB's death. Just because we can't find a link, doesn't make the fact that we read this untrue. And just because Patsy said that she did NOT take anything the night OF JB's death, does not make it true. If posters only posted things that they know to be a fact...then alot of IDI's would have to stop posting altogether.

 

[trixie]

Nope. This means I can say anything I want and claim it to be true but show no proof or tell you where I read it or what TV show it was on etc.... This is NOT credible information and you are pushing MISINFORMATION on this forum. How is that OK? Are YOU OK with that?

 

[trixie]

Patsy and JR were both questioned about Klonopin,so at the least,this drug was in the house at the time of the murder..whether either took any or not that night,we'll never know,as there were no blood tests immediately done on either of them.I know this doesn't answer your question,though.

Please show me a link or let me know where you got this information. This is all I've been asking for.

 

[UKGuy]

Here is John Ramsey's take on the drugs issue:

http://www.jonbenetindexguide.com/1998BPD-John-Interview-Complete.htm

18 LOU SMIT: Now, you said you had taken that

19 Melatonin, how many tablets did you take or do you

20 remember that?

21 JOHN RAMSEY: No, I don't remember exactly.

22 Probably I think one. It's a guess.

23 LOU SMIT: Were you under any other medication

24 at that time at all that you can think of

25 (INAUDIBLE)?

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1 JOHN RAMSEY: No. The only medication I took

2 from time to time was for allergies. I don't

3 recall. I don't think I was on any allergy

4 medication.

5 LOU SMIT: How about Patsy? Like Patsy, before

6 she went to bed would she ever take any medicine?

7 Would she have any medicine?

8 JOHN RAMSEY: She had some vitamins and things

9 like that that she took. I don't think that she

10 had any medical medicine.

11 LOU SMIT: No prescription drugs?

12 JOHN RAMSEY: I don't believe so.

13 LOU SMIT: Not even for the cancer?

14 JOHN RAMSEY: I don't think so. I think she

15 was pretty much off all medication once they got

16 into the natural vitamins and things like that.

17 She probably took those.

18 LOU SMIT: How about in your medicine

19 cabinets? Do you have any medicine in them?

20 JOHN RAMSEY: Oh, yes. There were lots and

21 lots of medicine.

22 LOU SMIT: Can you name one of them?

23 JOHN RAMSEY: Oh, there was -- I would be

24 guessing. I'm sure there were some antibiotics

25 from just her dad. Linda, my daughter, whose a

0122

1 nurse came in once, actually before that, and she

2 went through all our medicine cabinets and cleaned

3 out all the old prescriptions and drugs that

4 shouldn't be there. I know she through out a lot

5 of stuff that just kind of accumulated.

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[JMO8778]

Please show me a link or let me know where you got this information. This is all I've been asking for.

It's in the interviews,you can find these online,acandyrose.com is a good place to start.
I'm not much of a link keeper,I have enough on here already,lol.Plus I just come here to chat w. other RDI's;I'd read up on the case,and came here to talk about different aspects of it.Occasionally I'll answer an IDI,but it's really not my kind of thing to debate w. them.I'm not much into that.

 

[JMO8778]

Here is John Ramsey's take on the drugs issue:

http://www.jonbenetindexguide.com/1998BPD-John-Interview-Complete.htm


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thx !

 

[trixie]

Here is John Ramsey's take on the drugs issue:

http://www.jonbenetindexguide.com/1998BPD-John-Interview-Complete.htm


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Thank you UKGuy! Very informative. Still waiting to hear from someone how it's a known fact Patsy was taking drugs the night JB died.

 

[UKGuy]

Please show me a link or let me know where you got this information. This is all I've been asking for.

trixie,
Here is a Ramsey Klonopin reference:

The Bonita Papers

John also had been on two anti-depressant medications since the death of his daughter – the antidepressant Paxil, and Klonopin – used for the treatment of panic disorders.

http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5858


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[trixie]

Thanks UKGuy! Since the death of their daughter.I'm looking for a reference to Patsy being on drugs before the death. You can keep looking but I doubt you'll find it. Thanks for researching it though. I can't find anything on it.

 

[RiverRat]

Thanks UKGuy! Since the death of their daughter.I'm looking for a reference to Patsy being on drugs before the death. You can keep looking but I doubt you'll find it. Thanks for researching it though. I can't find anything on it.

Not quite sure why this is a huge issue to you since it is ONLY speculation ONLY because of the Ramseys refusing to release their medical records. I don't know who or if someone stated it as fact, but I am not going to spend anymore time on it for someone that thinks she already has her answer. Believe what you want and I will find something more productive to deal with.

 

[trixie]

Not quite sure why this is a huge issue to you since it is ONLY speculation ONLY because of the Ramseys refusing to release their medical records. I don't know who or if someone stated it as fact, but I am not going to spend anymore time on it for someone that thinks she already has her answer. Believe what you want and I will find something more productive to deal with.

No don't waste any more time on it. I'm not going to either. The proof doesn't exsist because it is not true. Just another case myth created by this JB forum I guess. It wasn't a big deal to me until some posters stated it as a fact when it is not a fact. Funny how this is such a fact of the case yet NOBODY can find proof. You would think there would be proof positive just like it's a proven fact that JB was wearing size 12 underwear. Some posters are trying to pass this rumor fact like the "underwear fact" and I will not contribute to the spread of misinformation. I'm more than willing to toss the idea around as speculation but when someone starts telling me they know for sure well then my curiosity gets piqued and I want to see what they saw as proof. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. That's how we keep our facts straight. Is that not important anymore?
So OBVIOUSLY this drug business is purely speculation and nobody knows for sure. Why don't some posters just admit it and move on? Some will just go ahead and believe whatever they want anyway, just because they want to. To hell with the truth.