Family battling Children’s Hospital to bring teen home for Christmas

[jjenny]

Irrelevant. IMO all horribly abused children want to go home. It's all they've ever known.


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All? Your statement is clearly false.

 

[Gardenlady]

The child herself, by the way, clearly wants to go home.
Not that anyone listens.

"Justina repeatedly told staff she wanted to go home, but the decision did not rest only with Children’s. A hospital spokesman said the facility “seeks to transfer patients to less medically intensive environments as soon as they are medically ready and a location is available.” The exact location however, would be up to the state child protection agency."

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...l-uncertain/Y7qvYTGsq8QklkxUZvuUgP/story.html

One of the saddest things that social workers see - often - is that an abused child WILL want to go home to an abusive parent. Children love their moms and dads, even when they are abusive.

That's true even for cases of physical abuse - I imagine that psychological abuse, or medical abuse, would be harder for a child to pick up on. The child probably thinks the parents are fighting hard for her health. No surprise then that child might want to go home to the parents.

 

[MyBelle]

CT DCF found the parents to be negligent, yet still declined to take her case.

While Justina was still in CT, doctors alerted about her parents. Not Korson.

CT declined to take her case because she doesn't reside in their jurisdiction. She currently resides in Mass. in the custody of the state.

 

[Gardenlady]

She hasn't done anything to deserve to be in jail.

She is not in jail, she is in a medical facility.

 

[Linda7NJ]

How many do you think BCH run in a couple of days prior to rendering "somatoform" diagnosis?

How many do you think they've done since that first day?




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[jjenny]

One of the saddest things that social workers see - often - is that an abused child WILL want to go home to an abusive parent. Children love their moms and dads, even when they are abusive.

That's true even for cases of physical abuse - I imagine that psychological abuse, or medical abuse, would be harder for a child to pick up on. The child probably thinks the parents are fighting hard for her health. No surprise then that cold might want to go home to the parents.

Really? She is nearly 16. I think she is capable of comapring her condition while living at home, and now.

 

[Linda7NJ]

All? Your statement is clearly false.

I'll correct that. Every single one I've ever known. If given a choice, would rather go home than foster care.


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[jjenny]

How many do you think they've done since that first day?




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Why would they need to since they diagnosed her with somatoform?
There is no blood test for somatoform.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Really? She is nearly 16. I think she is capable of comapring her condition while living at home, and now.

I disagree.


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[MyBelle]

She hasn't done anything to deserve to be in jail.

No child has done anything to "deserve" being in foster care. Blame rests squarely with her parents, imo.

 

[jjenny]

I'll correct that. Every single one I've ever known. If given a choice, would rather go home than foster care.


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Since I have no idea how many children you have known that were removed from abusive parents, that tells nothing to me.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Why would they need to since they diagnosed her with somatoform?

There is no blood test for somatoform.

lol I was using the information you, yourself, have provided.


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[jjenny]

No child has done anything to "deserve" being in foster care. Blame rests squarely with her parents, imo.

DCF put her in foster care (well in her case it was secure psychiatric ward), so doesn't blame lies with DCF?

 

[MyBelle]

One of the saddest things that social workers see - often - is that an abused child WILL want to go home to an abusive parent. Children love their moms and dads, even when they are abusive.

That's true even for cases of physical abuse - I imagine that psychological abuse, or medical abuse, would be harder for a child to pick up on. The child probably thinks the parents are fighting hard for her health. No surprise then that child might want to go home to the parents.

No surprise at all. Very well said.

 

[Gardenlady]

CT declined to take her case because she doesn't reside in their jurisdiction. She currently resides in Mass. in the custody of the state.

MA attempted last year to transfer the case to CT, seeing as how that was her home, and where her family still resides. CT took months to respond, and despite finding the parents to be negligent, declined to take her case back. I don't think a reason was ever given. If it was officially because they consider Justina a Mass resident now, that's a bit weaselly of CT, IMO.

I think it probably has more to do with not wanting to be involved in the circus, and not wanting to pay for her care.

 

[jjenny]

lol I was using the information you, yourself, have provided.


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I haven't provided any information on how many blood or urine tests (if any) BCH run on her during the time she was in a secure psychiatric ward.

 

[MyBelle]

DCF put her in foster care (well in her case it was secure psychiatric ward), so doesn't blame lies with DCF?

No, the blame lies squarely with the parents. DCF must act in the best interest of the child.

 

[jjenny]

MA attempted last year to transfer the case to CT, seeing as how that was her home, and where her family still resides. CT took months to respond, and despite finding the parents to be negligent, declined to take her case back. I don't think a reason was ever given. If it was officially because they consider Justina a Mass resident now, that's a bit weaselly of CT, IMO.

I think it probably has more to do with not wanting to be involved in the circus, and not wanting to pay for her care.

MA DCF should have not taken her into custody to begin with (given as she was not a resident of MA). Nobody could stop MA DCF from then contacting CT and asking CT DCF to investigate.
Considering there is not a shred of evidence Justina was in any sort of immediate danger because her parents wanted to take her out of BCH and into Tuft's.

 

[jjenny]

No, the blame lies squarely with the parents. DCF must act in the best interest of the child.

Have they, really?
What did they accomplish during all this time?
Do tell.

 

[Gardenlady]

DCF put her in foster care (well in her case it was secure psychiatric ward), so doesn't blame lies with DCF?

If DCF declined to take into custody a child who was being abused, the howls of outrage would be deafening. Why should they get blame when they act, and get blame again when they don't act? You can't have it both ways. It is a delicate balancing act but a necessary one. The alternative is to have NO safety net for abused children. Is that what people want?