Family battling Children’s Hospital to bring teen home for Christmas

[MyBelle]

Try this?:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lletier-kidnapped-doctors-use-guinea-pig.html

http://whenisapartynotaparty.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/daily-mail-8-justina-pelletier.jpg

This might be an easier to read copy of the "Guidelines".

I'm pretty disgusted at these parents' blatant exploitation of their daughter in an attempt to raise money from those who foolishly part with their money to sham religious causes. Religion has absolutely nothing to do with the decision of the Judge or DCF or the Hospital and yet the family continues their public campaign of deception.

The Pelletier family was not allowed to visit their daughter on Easter Sunday.


followed by this in the very same article:

following the family’s visitation time this weekend, which miraculously did include a last-minute approved Easter Sunday visit.


followed by this in the very same article:

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[CathyinTexas]

This clearly shows how this has become yet another right wing drubbing point. I don't know whether it's unwittingly or wittingly, but the parents have clearly been subsumed into some right wing machine that is looking to make a bigger, anti-government, anti-social services point. Add to that the anti-psychiatry/psychology weirdoes, and it's all a circus. (Funny enough, he touts how he met with Michelle Bachman - she of the pray-the-gay-away camp! she's somehow a legitimizing factor, but actual trained medical doctors and scientists [because that's what psychologists are - like it or not psychology is a science and psychologists are trained and educated to the phD level] are discounted).

Oookay then. Circus away, folks. I guess it is easier to think that Children's docs, Mass DCF, the judge, the tufts docs who originally alerted on the parents, and CT DCF are all involved in some bizarre conspiracy, than it is to assume that maybe, just maybe they all saw something that these political haymakers - and us! - have not.


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It is glaringly apparent that this has become a political issue at the expense of the health of a child which also may be at the expense of her life. The only reason it seems to be right ring circus is because those who have come forward to help the person be it organizations or media are conservatives. It is making the left wing look BAD, that is for sure, but only because of their inaction. Lou and Linda bring up Nazis because Linda's mother lived in Czecholslavakia during the Nazi and Communist occupations.

 

[CathyinTexas]

And no, really, these cases should absolutely NOT scare all parents. Cases in dispute like this do NOT make good proof of anything. And anytime anyone says "this should scare us all!" is the time when we should double down and be VERY careful as a public to not go off half cocked, making assumptions and basing decisions off of irrational fears. There's too much of that in this country as it is. This is why these outside political groups involving themselves in this should be run out of town. Their use of scare tactics and over the top language and comparisons to nazis are designed to play on your emotions and rile you up. Disgusting people using the basest of tactics to drive home some political point. Justina is a pawn to them in their larger agenda.


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Those who have chosen to be against the parents and side with the hospital and DCF seem to be overlooking the issues here. It was stated on Dr. Phil by qualified professional, one the medical director of L.A. Child services that even IF she has Somatoform disorder, the treatment is not hospitalization. No foster child (ward) is to be denied their basic rights of education and freedom to their religion. Justina does not the visitation rights of other children in the hospital or the facility where she stays. The abusers here and those who are clearly in the wrong are those who do this to her.

 

[CathyinTexas]

I found mom's claims she has no idea why she can't visit her daughter ....next breath ...she does know exactly why...they've brought the circus to town....rather amusing.

It's crystal clear to me after watching that video... Children's concerns about these parents are founded and warranted. IMO


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Justina was taken Feb 2013. Lou complied with their order of silence for one YEAR. He went to their kangaroo court hearings (my opinion) and was aghast at the rulings (nothing in writing), he saw that his daughter has been suffering this whole time and her health declining, so he risked jail to plead with the public to help her. They did not ask for this media circus. It is all because of the illegal actions of Boston Children's, the DCF and the judge.

 

[CathyinTexas]

Jjenny

It's not the fact that they're talking, it's the content that I've having a huge issue with.

Do they have the right? Absolutely. I'll defend their right to keep on talking too.

My point is... It's going to be used against them. It sends up HUGE red flags all over the place. IMO.

Before ....I was unwilling to hop off the fence as I felt I didn't have enough information and the fact I'm not medically qualified to have an opinion...without medical records or the medical knowledge to draw an opinion...I had nothing.

This video ...changed that for me.

This video proves to me that there are genuine concerns that these parents fall into the "category of parents" that do doctor shop, do relish the attention, and do have a twisted interest in keeping this going to fill their own needs.
All IMO



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I don't agree. I think Lou Pelliteir is a truly brave man and a wonderful father coming to the aid of his child.

 

[CathyinTexas]

I HAVE brought one of my children in for serious issues. TO BOSTON CHILDRENS lol! Not only that, but it was for GI issues, which are usually a red flag for checking for medical abuse, since the claims can be vague and hard to pin down and easily misused either wittingly or unwittingly, nefariously or innocently, by parents! If there was some grand conspiracy going on there, my kid probably could have been a GREAT candidate for "kidnapping" and "torture" or whatever other thing you think all these docs are doing there!

Instead, as with any other experience I have had with children's in Boston, the care we received was excellent, caring, and always with a conservative medical approach, and with lots of emphasis on understanding the condition/parental support and follow up.

I'm sorry but I find 90% of the over the too, alarmist post on this thread to be so far out of the realm of reality that it borders on the hysterical.


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I think it was all about timing for the perfect storm. It was the WHO that were the players, and what they had to gain. Hundreds of children are taken and become wards all over the country. It is a silent epidemic because of threats of losing their children for good that we dont' hear from more parents. Elizabeth Wray's parents kept silent after a short time and she was released within days of Justina being taken. She must have served their purpose and they needed another one, and along came Justina. None of them expected this because no other parents have had the guts to go against them.

 

[CathyinTexas]

I'm am really really sorry that happened to you. There is no shortage of asshat doctors and certainly DCF has more than their fair share of incompetent employees IMO

It's coming together in such a way, in this case, that I now believe the parents are the direct cause of 99% of their problems and may even be the cause of their daughters. The concern that they have a negative effect on their daughters health, is a fair one. IMO
IMO I do not see some vast conspiracy to kidnap their child to be a lab rat in some study.


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I certainly do.

 

[CathyinTexas]

CT DCF was asked to take the case, Waited months to respond, and decided to wash their hands of Justina. MA DCF also tried to get her placed in CT, closer to home, but that fell through when facilities refused to take her due to the circus surrounding it all!



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There are two sides to the story. Lou said they refused to take her because the DCF made rules and demands they couldn't comply with. It seems Wayside does.

 

[CathyinTexas]

Basically it's the parents' version of the events and it isn't necessarily the whole truth.

There are organizations who looked into the facts of this case thoroughly before going public to help them. It is what it is, abuse of power and corruption and a child suffers.

 

[Linda7NJ]

It is glaringly apparent that this has become a political issue at the expense of the health of a child which also may be at the expense of her life. The only reason it seems to be right ring circus is because those who have come forward to help the person be it organizations or media are conservatives. It is making the left wing look BAD, that is for sure, but only because of their inaction. Lou and Linda bring up Nazis because Linda's mother lived in Czecholslavakia during the Nazi and Communist occupations.

Ohh that's why they brought up Nazis ......now it makes perfect sense.
They were speaking about the child's grandmother! Got it.

Cough cough...


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[CathyinTexas]

Of course they do. Their talking points have grown to beyond ridiculous in light of the Judge's enlightening opinion about the real facts of this case, imo.

This judge is the laughing stock of the legal profession. Throughout the hearings he put nothing in writing until his "ruling" that the DCF get custody of Justina. He stated no facts about the case or reason for her to have been taken from her parents in the first place. All the true facts will come out eventually and I believe we will see that the Pellitiers actions will be justified.

 

[CathyinTexas]

There is no proof Dr. Korson suggested Justina see a doctor at another hospital or that Dr. Flores was currently Justina's GI specialist.

The only thing I find unbelievable are the "facts" invented by the parents.

JMO

Others besides Lou Pellitier have stated that Dr. Korsen is her doctor and testified to that in court. He has been supportive of the family throughout but because of HIPPA laws cannot speak publicly about it. I have no reason to not believe the parents and sister in this matter. They love her and are looking out for her best interest. It is clear to me that all others on the other side are not looking out for her best interest. She is a pawn in their evil doings in my opinion. I think they will lose in this battle.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I think it was all about timing for the perfect storm. It was the WHO that were the players, and what they had to gain. Hundreds of children are taken and become wards all over the country. It is a silent epidemic because of threats of losing their children for good that we dont' hear from more parents. Elizabeth Wray's parents kept silent after a short time and she was released within days of Justina being taken. She must have served their purpose and they needed another one, and along came Justina. None of them expected this because no other parents have had the guts to go against them.

There is no shortage of stories or fights going on.
A simple google of the terms "fight CPS" yields countless examples.




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[Donjeta]

I think it was all about timing for the perfect storm. It was the WHO that were the players, and what they had to gain. Hundreds of children are taken and become wards all over the country. It is a silent epidemic because of threats of losing their children for good that we dont' hear from more parents. Elizabeth Wray's parents kept silent after a short time and she was released within days of Justina being taken. She must have served their purpose and they needed another one, and along came Justina. None of them expected this because no other parents have had the guts to go against them.

This sounds very ominous but what did they need another one for, exactly?

It is certainly not previously unheard of that parents fight custody decisions in court or make a public fuss.

 

[CathyinTexas]

The article I posted is from the Boston Globe. Perhaps you don't wish it to make sense but I have no problem understanding it. The article is not flattering to the parents and specifically mentions threats made to workers and to institutions by a parent.

Tufts clearly had issues with the parents that required a legal agreement be reached prior to their seeing the child again, even though they treated her previously.

Just another consequence to the parents' actions and accusations.

JMO

The Boston Globe is biased against the family. They are loyal to Harvard and BCH.

 

[Linda7NJ]

The Boston Globe is biased against the family. They are loyal to Harvard and BCH.

Oooh the media is part of the vast conspiracy now too?

So this is what happens every time BCH "needs another one"? All of the conspirators come together, form a team, and devise their evil plan?

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[jjenny]

Father seems convinced BCH used their child for research. While it might sound like a conspiracy theory, BCH policy is clear on that wards of the state may be used for research. So how far fetched is this conspiracy theory?

 

[Linda7NJ]

This judge is the laughing stock of the legal profession. Throughout the hearings he put nothing in writing until his "ruling" that the DCF get custody of Justina. He stated no facts about the case or reason for her to have been taken from her parents in the first place. All the true facts will come out eventually and I believe we will see that the Pellitiers actions will be justified.

Please provide a link to " This judge is the laughing stock of the legal profession. "

And everything else you're posting as fact.

Thanks in advance.


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[Donjeta]

Well it certainly sounds better to say that our child was taken into custody because evil masterminds want to experiment with her life than to say that she was taken into custody because it was thought that we are not capable of taking care of her needs.

 

[jjenny]

Well it certainly sounds better to say that our child was taken into custody because evil masterminds want to experiment with her life than to say that she was taken into custody because it was thought that we are not capable of taking care of her needs.

But DCF is capable of taking care of her needs? How are they capable, exactly? They got a large number of well documented problems. I have no idea why they seemed to have zeroed in on Justina, but for whatever reason they spend an enormous amount of money on her. And don't appear to have much to show for it, as she isn't running around singing happy songs while in their custody. If organization spend million or more to keep the child in a psychiatric ward, at least I would have liked to see some positive results.