Family wants to keep life support for girl brain dead after tonsil surgery #3

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Just catching up on the court rulings, and thank you very much to all who have posted the twitter feeds and updates!

Here's a thought. What if the Top Secret Care Facility (thanks Herat!) IS actually the Winkfield home?

More than three weeks after Jahi McMath was declared brain-dead by doctors at Children's Hospital Oakland, her mother will be allowed to take her 13-year-old daughter home from the facility as long as she assumes full responsibility for her health, according to an agreement between both sides announced Friday morning in Alameda County Superior Court.
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BBM

http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_24840745/jahi-mcmath-mom-can-remove-brain-dead-daughter

The continued request for the trach and gastrostomy tube could be from a home care agency who is willing to come into the Winkfield home and do 24/7 care.

Hmmmm.....
 
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Karmady said:
Seriously. They're like, here, take two :facepalm:

jmo
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I'm sorry...that was exactly what I was thinking and I busted out lol'ing. I know...I know...totally inappropriate...but ....
 
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BetteDavisEyes said:
What if Jahi doesn't "survive" the procedures?
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Parent/guardian would have to give consent for the procedures and would be advised of risk, death being one.
 
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seattlechiquita said:
She has to. Otherwise, the body functions made possible by it would go caput. I reckon the fams will have to rent one and do a switcheroo? (and yes, I am being light on purpose, this is too darn awful to take myself too seriously)
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I should have said that Jahi would not be able to have the hospital's ventilator when she transfer out of the facility. I'm sure that the family will have to procure one for her.
 
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There are ventilators made for home use They are small and portable, but there is a period of training required before you can just send someone home on one. As a part-time job, I provide in-home care to a toddler who is on one such vent. He is on an LTV 1150. There is also a home model called a Trilogy - there may be others, those are the two I know how to operate.
 
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ChristYTN said:
I'm sorry...that was exactly what I was thinking and I busted out lol'ing. I know...I know...totally inappropriate...but ....
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You are not alone.
 
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We had been wondering about a death certificate:
"Petitioner must agree that she shall be wholly and exclusively responsible for Jahi McMath the moment custody is transferred in the Hospital's pediatric intensive care unit and acknowledge that she understands that the transfer and subsequent transport could impact that condition of the body, including causing cardiac arrest," according to the document.

Alameda County Sheriff's Office spokesman J.D. Nelson said a death certificate has been issued for Jahi, but is being held pending an autopsy.
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http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_24840745/jahi-mcmath-mom-can-remove-brain-dead-daughter
 
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If they do in fact take her to the family residence, it almost seems like the bigger problem, rather than the vent, is the g-tube, since they're accusing CHO of starving her. Without it they won't have any way of feeding her. And of course they'll need someone to assist with these things. I'm not sure how the federal court could compel the procedures to be done, but I guess they could send it back to state court.
 
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K_Z said:
Just catching up on the court rulings, and thank you very much to all who have posted the twitter feeds and updates!

Here's a thought. What if the Top Secret Care Facility (thanks Herat!) IS actually the Winkfield home?



BBM

http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_24840745/jahi-mcmath-mom-can-remove-brain-dead-daughter

The continues request for the trach and gastrostomy tube could be from a home care agency who is willing to come into the Winkfield home and do 24/7 care.

Hmmmm.....
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I suggested a hospice-type setting previously. Whether Jahi is cared for in the family residence or a hospice facility, I think that this is probably how to best care for the teen. :moo:
 
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Also, very, very few individuals get 24/7 in-home nursing care. For example, my home vent kiddo gets 8 hours of nursing care six days per week. The family opts to have a nurse five nights a week (so they can sleep) and one day per week (so mom can run errands, get groceries, fill prescriptions etc) The remaining two nights and six, 16-hour days fall to the parents exclusively.
 
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Does CHO have an ethics committee and if they do, have they released a statement. I would think an ethics committee would be deeply involved.
 
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atthelake said:
I will assume you just posted accidentally?
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Nope -- people on Twitter are blaming this whole mess on Obamacare. For realsssss.
 
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A tentative stipulation provided by Jahi's family attorney Christopher Dolan spelled out precise details on how Jahi would be transported from the facility.

"Petitioner must agree that she shall be wholly and exclusively responsible for Jahi McMath the moment custody is transferred in the Hospital's pediatric intensive care unit and acknowledge that she understands that the transfer and subsequent transport could impact that condition of the body, including causing cardiac arrest," according to the document.

http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_24840745/jahi-mcmath-mom-can-remove-brain-dead-daughter
 
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momrids6 said:
Someone was discussing a "transport vent" up thread. I wonder if the one in the hospital is too big??

The way I understand a vent- there is tubing in her mouth/trachea to the vent- seems like you disconnect vent from tube- hook new vent to it?
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I don't know. But CHO is basically saying you have someone to transport her, a place to take her, a physician to operate, so here, take her with the vent and go.

They are calling them out and doing what they legally can so she can go to another facility or home.

CHO does have to keep her though, in her current state as long as the courts compel them to do so. So, either her heart stops beating at CHO, or the mother with the help of all these other people, need to $$it or get off the pot.
 
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newmrsc said:
If they do in fact take her to the family residence, it almost seems like the bigger problem, rather than the vent, is the g-tube, since they're accusing CHO of starving her. Without it they won't have any way of feeding her. And of course they'll need someone to assist with these things. I'm not sure how the federal court could compel the procedures to be done, but I guess they could send it back to state court.
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she has an IV....
 
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