Family wants to keep life support for girl brain dead after tonsil surgery #3

[newmrsc]

Why would the court not require discontinuance of ventilator support?

They do still have the restraining order until Tuesday. It could be removed, but now that it's been agreed the family can move her, they'll probably give them until Tuesday to make arrangements. But I personally doubt that's going to be successful.

 

[Herat]

"plaintiffs are at great risk of the death of Jahi McMath occuring"

Huh?

There is a death certificate. It occured on Dec. 12.

 

[momrids6]

They do still have the restraining order until Tuesday. It could be removed, but now that it's been agreed the family can move her, they'll probably give them until Tuesday to make arrangements. But I personally doubt that's going to be successful.

did you see the tweet about "restraining order out" ? I would love clarification of that- and so far cannot find anything.

 

[Donjeta]

Wait, that's not what the court ruled. They ruled that CHO did not have to perform the surgery or agree to have someone else come in to their hospital to do it.

Unless I was seeing things earlier? Help!

Maybe he meant that the court did not actively forbid the hospital to allow someone to come in and do the procedures. Gotta call it a victory even if it's a dubious one.

 

[Softail]

The only "facility" she should be transferred to is a Funeral Home! IMO

:banghead:

 

[popsicle]

Laura Anthony ‏@LauraAnthony7 2m
Lunch just ordered in for parties to #Jahi settlement conference at Oakland Fed Court.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Matthias Gafni ‏@mgafni 56s
Medic flight comp says on stand-by, but hasn't heard from #JahiMcMath family re: flight to NY; nothing imminent. More http://bit.ly/JOsecG

How long does the med flight plan to be on stand-by? If flight is to NY, do we assume that the undisclosed facility is, indeed, the New Beginnings construction site?

 

[Isabelle]

It is possible that doctors at CHO could remove themselves from Jahi's care. This can and does happen for non-compliance. I would not be surprised if that is the next step.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

"plaintiffs are at great risk of the death of Jahi McMath occuring"

Huh?

There is a death certificate. It occured on Dec. 12.

During the precarious transfer. That's how I interpret it. No guarantee that Jahi will "survive" the transfer to whatever facility accepts her. :moo:

 

[MaybeNotToday]

Laura Anthony ‏@LauraAnthony7 32m
CHO attorney Doug Straus just choked up in front of reporters when talking abt his wanting #Jahi's family to accept her death.

From 32 mins ago

"Stuff's" gettin' real

 

[Elley Mae]

Laura Anthony ‏@LauraAnthony7 2m
Lunch just ordered in for parties to #Jahi settlement conference at Oakland Fed Court.

subway or panera? j/k

 

[Donjeta]

http://www.thaddeuspope.com/images/Mcmath_ND_Cal_Settlement_01-02-14.pdf

Dolan is still claiming that Jahi went in to have her tonsils out.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

subway or panera? j/k

Cream?

 

[momrids6]

How long does the med flight plan to be on stand-by? If flight is to NY, do we assume that the undisclosed facility is, indeed, the New Beginnings construction site?

Um- WHO is contracted to remove her from the hospital to the med flight?

 

[Donjeta]

Um- WHO is contracted to remove her from the hospital to the med flight?

IIRC the med flight offer included ground transport on both ends. It's in one of the court filings by Dolan.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

"Stuff's" gettin' real

Yeah. Real :nuts:

 

[momrids6]

http://www.thaddeuspope.com/images/Mcmath_ND_Cal_Settlement_01-02-14.pdf

Dolan is still claiming that Jahi went in to have her tonsils out.

Karmady... where are you? Isn't this illegal- or something?

ETA: Cnn live- saying they scored a "little victory".........what are they smoking?

 

[Leilei]

Um- WHO is contracted to remove her from the hospital to the med flight?

That is as top secret as the name of the receiving facility, apparently.

I'm taking a break from this until later tonight. Is it too much to ask that when I log back in, the family will have accepted that she is gone, and are planning a beautiful service for her?

Here's hoping.

 

[MaybeNotToday]

As a person with a life-long anxiety disorder, I grew up worrying about every issue and thinking through worse-case scenarios. The one positive outcome of my situation is that when emergencies do occur, I am the go-to person as to what-to-do. I think clearly of the options and make quick decisions. As a result, I got my sister to the hospital in time for treatment of a severe kidney infection, I knew the moment my husband's bronchitis turned to pneumonia an got him to the hospital ASAP. I also was one of the few adults who managed to keep track of my students during a day-long bomb situation which included evacuation and relocation for half a day. See, I foresaw the situation and had roster check-lists in my ever-present grade book and checked at every move. I was the only one in the family who didn't panic when my niece's de-clawed cat fell into a basement wall and couldn't get himself out. I considered the location of electrical wires, drains, etc. and chose a section of wall I deemed safe and instructed my DH to make a hole in a specific case. Cat rescued, minimal damage.



I only fall apart and have a real good panic attack when it is all over. LOL!



I need this background for you to understand where I'm coming from concerning this comment and also include for everything posted below the following: IJHO, JMHO, :moo::moo::moo:. While it is not a likely long-term of this particular situation, it is a logical one IMHO, JMHO, :moo::moo::moo:.



Should Jahi's family be given everything they want and laws fall state-by-state concerning individuals who are declared brain dead by 3 doctors or more, we could be in for a new nightmare scenario as suggested by Robin Cook's medical novel, Coma.



I see facilities lined with beds containing the brain dead. I envision row upon row of ventilators, feeding tubes, every medication and nutrient feeding the "patients". Legions of nurses, CNA's, LVN's, registered nurses, doctors, and surgeons tend to every medical necessity to keep the "patients" at their peak performance until the inevitable happens. The bed is not empty for long, there is another "patient" on the waiting list.



All of this at a tremendous cost to our society, morally, emotionally, and economically.



Is this what they want?

I think that's one or the only good thing about having anxiety. I always like to look at a worst case scenario - find the solution to that and then work backwards to pre-solve lesser scenarios. My husband usually asks,"how/why do you think up this stuff?"It's the "Cassandra Complex".

 

[MEN3C]

http://www.thaddeuspope.com/images/Mcmath_ND_Cal_Settlement_01-02-14.pdf

Dolan is still claiming that Jahi went in to have her tonsils out.

Are there any filings by CHO which state what procedure(s) were performed?

The only ones I've read were the ones by the physicians who examined her and declared her as brain dead.