Family wants to keep life support for girl brain dead after tonsil surgery #6

[Karmady]

It just might turn out to be a little difficult to argue in court both that one hospital was evil for saying that Jahi is dead and couldn't be helped and another was evil for saying that Jahi is alive and could be saved.

Plaintiffs are rarely deterred by an inherent inconsistency in their position. jmo

 

[threecrazykids]

I was just watching this video again of Jahi's mother during an interview -

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/video?id=9368414


So, in listening to her exact words I'm really wondering whether or not she simply CHOSE to ignore or deny what the doctors told her in regards to their findings, or if medical terms were incorrectly exchanged that had (at least at some point) led her to false hope.

Here are several points in the video that I noted where I found the mothers comments not only questionable when it comes to complete understanding of the situation but also a few disturbing comments as to what SHE believes her prognosis is:

1:30 - she references Jahi's condition as brain DAMAGED not brain DEAD.
HUGE difference - was she never explained the difference in detail? Did she completely reject the word brain dead so she exchanged it for brain damage so as to not have to accept that any part of Jahi is actually dead? I have to assume the difference has been explained to the family - is this an acceptance issue?

2:05 - she states that when she touches the bottom of her feet that her feet move.
Is this possible? Is this an illusion on behalf of her knowing the "miraculous signs" of life? I (medically speaking) don't know if foot movement would/could indicate even a remote shred of hope of some sort of brain activity. So my question to anyone here who knows - if her feet DO move when touched (assuming it's true) WOULD that indicate that there actually IS brain activity? Again - not saying that what she says is true - I just want to know if her feet DID move, would that indicate brain activity of some sort?

2:20 - states flat out that Jahi is not a dead person - denial?

2:30 - states that she is simply "recuperating" - again...denial?

3:00 - states she can't be dead because "she loved life and loved living" - so does she seriously believe that people who die only do so because they don't WANT to live and didn't love living? She can't seriously believe that Jahi can't die because she enjoyed living can she?

3:20 - again states that she has a pulse and a heartbeat that is NOT the machine. Again, is this true? Or is this denial and complete disregard of what those machines are mechanically doing for Jahi?

4:00 - wonders why the hospital can't just do research on how to bring her back to her normal self. I ask yet again - is this denial or misleading information from the hospital as to Jahi's true state.

5:05 - interviewer asks that if an outside expert comes in, is there ANY point when you are ready to let her go - she states NO, no matter what.
This to me is flat out denial of the situation at hand. She is choosing to ignore the difference between brain damage and brain death.

5:15 - this is the one that I think is the MOST telling of the whole interview. She states that she KNOWS and has read other cases where a neurosurgeon said they were officially brain DEAD and those people woke up.
So here she references brain DEAD - not damaged - and believes those people woke up. This is where I wonder if she is (in her own mind) not differentiating between the two and believes they are the same thing and so she willingly exchanges the two as if there is no difference, just different words for the same thing.

5:45 - again states that there is NO POINT that she will accept that she won't recover - blatantly ignores the question and states "I just want her to get up"

5:53 / 6:09- this is the most heart-wrenching piece for me...where she goes on and on about how Jahi was a good girl and what kind of mother would she be to allow them to just pull the plug on her. She states she will wonder every single night when she goes to sleep whether that one more day would be the day she woke up.
Again - I have to ask - has NO ONE made it clear to her that the possibility of that does not exist? That she can NOT wake up from brain death?

Where is the root of the issue? Is it a conglomeration of denial and/or ignoring what has been said by all of these medical professionals or does she honestly believe that because Jahi was a good girl and wanted to live and loved living that she couldn't possibly die? That because she loved living there IS NO option of death for her?

I know, I'm overly cynical of words so I pick pick pick peoples words apart to try to get into their brain.

On the surface I see flat out ignoring what she has been told and honest to goodness exchanging of medical terms in an effort to not accept that any piece of Jahi is dead - just damaged. But I also wonder (forgive me for saying this) if there is some sort of mental deficiency going on here (low IQ or otherwise) where she doesn't understand the real meaning of Jahi's condition.

 

[Herat]

From the msn article cited above by Harmony2 (#760)

"Jahi McMath's uncle said Monday that she is now being cared for at a facility that shares their belief that she still is alive"

This out to be very interesting in court when this comes out. They may have to deal with family members of other patients who do not want their loved one in a place where brain dead people's bodies are intensively care for, for free, while they have to pay bills that insurance will not cover.......

"The facility, where Jahi is expected to remain for some time, is run by a charitable organization that so far hasn't sought payment, Dolan said."

It doesn't matter what your belief system is or whether you charge or not, your facility still has to comply with state and federal licensing requirements and healthcare laws.

 

[Herat]

Before Dolan got involved, the mother clearly stated several times, where it is in court documents, that she has been told Jahi is brain dead and there is no hope for recovery. She doesn't use the words "brain damaged". She clearly states that doctors (note multiple) have told her brain dead and no recovery.

Dolan even puts that in his first documents to the court.

 

[BeginnersLuck]

I am guessing, a lot of people are donating their time to help with the care, including the surgical procedures that have been done. The facility has probably been donated as well. The cost of the many different meds that are required to make up for no brain function, as well as supplies, in itself has to be enormous.

I'm not a medical professional but I have helped those that are terminally ill. Bodily fluids, including blood don't bother me. I would have a really tough time taking care of bodies though, that are simply kept breathing, because others don't consider brain death = to death. If it were for research purposes, in hopes of finding new ways to better the lives of other, then I could probably do it.

I don't see the courts ever going backwards and changing brain death laws, but there are those that want this done.

Just as some are not happy that laws allow hospitals to remove ventilators from brain dead bodies, there are some that would like laws to be implemented preventing individuals and families, from removal of support from deceased individuals or those individuals that are being kept alive on life support, despite the wishes of the family or advanced directives.

There are those that don't want individuals to have to right to decisions, whether it is at the beginning or end of life.

I have to wonder, do these people ever think past their "pro-life" stance to the point of analyzing who, where and how society would carry this burden. I can't imagine facilities housing brain dead bodies and providing them with all the surgeries and treatments, to keep their heart from stopping. I can't imagine, working in such a place. I can't imagine how anyone would feel, if they were forced due to laws, to witness this on a loved one.

Nor, can I imagine the government or private insurance being forced to pay for deceased bodies that have beating hearts, due to mechanical ventilation.

When I see a lot of those that are providing encouragement and support to this family, I have to also consider where their beliefs are at, as I have noted above, even though these beliefs make no practical or ethical sense to me.

It's my opinion, that the FB page for the family, is run by those that have these beliefs and no amount of practicality is going to change their opinions or their desire, to fight to change the laws to support their beliefs.

It's sickening to me, anytime a belief system has to use lies and uses media to help spread those lies, to garner public support.

 

[MaybeNotToday]

I was just watching this video again of Jahi's mother during an interview -



http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/video?id=9368414





So, in listening to her exact words I'm really wondering whether or not she simply CHOSE to ignore or deny what the doctors told her in regards to their findings, or if medical terms were incorrectly exchanged that had (at least at some point) led her to false hope.



Here are several points in the video that I noted where I found the mothers comments not only questionable when it comes to complete understanding of the situation but also a few disturbing comments as to what SHE believes her prognosis is:



1:30 - she references Jahi's condition as brain DAMAGED not brain DEAD.

HUGE difference - was she never explained the difference in detail? Did she completely reject the word brain dead so she exchanged it for brain damage so as to not have to accept that any part of Jahi is actually dead? I have to assume the difference has been explained to the family - is this an acceptance issue?



2:05 - she states that when she touches the bottom of her feet that her feet move.

Is this possible? Is this an illusion on behalf of her knowing the "miraculous signs" of life? I (medically speaking) don't know if foot movement would/could indicate even a remote shred of hope of some sort of brain activity. So my question to anyone here who knows - if her feet DO move when touched (assuming it's true) WOULD that indicate that there actually IS brain activity? Again - not saying that what she says is true - I just want to know if her feet DID move, would that indicate brain activity of some sort?



2:20 - states flat out that Jahi is not a dead person - denial?



2:30 - states that she is simply "recuperating" - again...denial?



3:00 - states she can't be dead because "she loved life and loved living" - so does she seriously believe that people who die only do so because they don't WANT to live and didn't love living? She can't seriously believe that Jahi can't die because she enjoyed living can she?



3:20 - again states that she has a pulse and a heartbeat that is NOT the machine. Again, is this true? Or is this denial and complete disregard of what those machines are mechanically doing for Jahi?



4:00 - wonders why the hospital can't just do research on how to bring her back to her normal self. I ask yet again - is this denial or misleading information from the hospital as to Jahi's true state.



5:05 - interviewer asks that if an outside expert comes in, is there ANY point when you are ready to let her go - she states NO, no matter what.

This to me is flat out denial of the situation at hand. She is choosing to ignore the difference between brain damage and brain death.



5:15 - this is the one that I think is the MOST telling of the whole interview. She states that she KNOWS and has read other cases where a neurosurgeon said they were officially brain DEAD and those people woke up.

So here she references brain DEAD - not damaged - and believes those people woke up. This is where I wonder if she is (in her own mind) not differentiating between the two and believes they are the same thing and so she willingly exchanges the two as if there is no difference, just different words for the same thing.



5:45 - again states that there is NO POINT that she will accept that she won't recover - blatantly ignores the question and states "I just want her to get up"



5:53 / 6:09- this is the most heart-wrenching piece for me...where she goes on and on about how Jahi was a good girl and what kind of mother would she be to allow them to just pull the plug on her. She states she will wonder every single night when she goes to sleep whether that one more day would be the day she woke up.

Again - I have to ask - has NO ONE made it clear to her that the possibility of that does not exist? That she can NOT wake up from brain death?



Where is the root of the issue? Is it a conglomeration of denial and/or ignoring what has been said by all of these medical professionals or does she honestly believe that because Jahi was a good girl and wanted to live and loved living that she couldn't possibly die? That because she loved living there IS NO option of death for her?



I know, I'm overly cynical of words so I pick pick pick peoples words apart to try to get into their brain.



On the surface I see flat out ignoring what she has been told and honest to goodness exchanging of medical terms in an effort to not accept that any piece of Jahi is dead - just damaged. But I also wonder (forgive me for saying this) if there is some sort of mental deficiency going on here (low IQ or otherwise) where she doesn't understand the real meaning of Jahi's condition.

From reading this and other comments, it is my opinion that her mother is either (1) not competent or (2) making statements that would help in a future lawsuit.

"Crazy" or crazy like a fox.

Disclaimer: When I say "crazy", I mean either from pre-existing problems, or deep denial from this trauma.

ETA: Therefore, IMO the mother should be relieved of the burden to make the decision.

 

[Donjeta]

We haven't heard much from New Beginnings Office Complex and Not-Brain-Dead Care Center have we?

AS posted an educational video on her personal FB which included interview clips about her process as a TBI patient's loved one. Strangely enough she did not mention that he recovered from brain death. There was also someone in the video saying that it is important to listen to and learn from the doctors and nurses and other professionals who know about this stuff. :facepalm:

A Medford, N.Y., facility with ties to the Terri Schiavo Life & Hope Network had previously said it would accept her for long-term care, but it was not known Wednesday if she was there. Founder Allyson Scerri did not return a call for comment Wednesday.

Why even bother asking, imo, it's clear that Jahi did not get surgery at a community center offering outpatient TBI rehabilitation, nor on a construction site.
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking...h-girl-given-breathing-feeding-tubes-attorney

 

[AnaTeresa]

It just might turn out to be a little difficult to argue in court both that one hospital was evil for saying that Jahi is dead and couldn't be helped and another was evil for saying that Jahi is alive and could be saved.

There is what's called pleading in the alternative. It's fairly common in civil suits, where you're able to plead what may appear to be contradictory claims at the outset.

 

[BeginnersLuck]

I was just watching this video again of Jahi's mother during an interview -

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/video?id=9368414


So, in listening to her exact words I'm really wondering whether or not she simply CHOSE to ignore or deny what the doctors told her in regards to their findings, or if medical terms were incorrectly exchanged that had (at least at some point) led her to false hope.

Here are several points in the video that I noted where I found the mothers comments not only questionable when it comes to complete understanding of the situation but also a few disturbing comments as to what SHE believes her prognosis is:

1:30 - she references Jahi's condition as brain DAMAGED not brain DEAD.
HUGE difference - was she never explained the difference in detail? Did she completely reject the word brain dead so she exchanged it for brain damage so as to not have to accept that any part of Jahi is actually dead? I have to assume the difference has been explained to the family - is this an acceptance issue?

2:05 - she states that when she touches the bottom of her feet that her feet move.
Is this possible? Is this an illusion on behalf of her knowing the "miraculous signs" of life? I (medically speaking) don't know if foot movement would/could indicate even a remote shred of hope of some sort of brain activity. So my question to anyone here who knows - if her feet DO move when touched (assuming it's true) WOULD that indicate that there actually IS brain activity? Again - not saying that what she says is true - I just want to know if her feet DID move, would that indicate brain activity of some sort?

2:20 - states flat out that Jahi is not a dead person - denial?

2:30 - states that she is simply "recuperating" - again...denial?

3:00 - states she can't be dead because "she loved life and loved living" - so does she seriously believe that people who die only do so because they don't WANT to live and didn't love living? She can't seriously believe that Jahi can't die because she enjoyed living can she?

3:20 - again states that she has a pulse and a heartbeat that is NOT the machine. Again, is this true? Or is this denial and complete disregard of what those machines are mechanically doing for Jahi?

4:00 - wonders why the hospital can't just do research on how to bring her back to her normal self. I ask yet again - is this denial or misleading information from the hospital as to Jahi's true state.

5:05 - interviewer asks that if an outside expert comes in, is there ANY point when you are ready to let her go - she states NO, no matter what.
This to me is flat out denial of the situation at hand. She is choosing to ignore the difference between brain damage and brain death.

5:15 - this is the one that I think is the MOST telling of the whole interview. She states that she KNOWS and has read other cases where a neurosurgeon said they were officially brain DEAD and those people woke up.
So here she references brain DEAD - not damaged - and believes those people woke up. This is where I wonder if she is (in her own mind) not differentiating between the two and believes they are the same thing and so she willingly exchanges the two as if there is no difference, just different words for the same thing.

5:45 - again states that there is NO POINT that she will accept that she won't recover - blatantly ignores the question and states "I just want her to get up"

5:53 / 6:09- this is the most heart-wrenching piece for me...where she goes on and on about how Jahi was a good girl and what kind of mother would she be to allow them to just pull the plug on her. She states she will wonder every single night when she goes to sleep whether that one more day would be the day she woke up.
Again - I have to ask - has NO ONE made it clear to her that the possibility of that does not exist? That she can NOT wake up from brain death?

Where is the root of the issue? Is it a conglomeration of denial and/or ignoring what has been said by all of these medical professionals or does she honestly believe that because Jahi was a good girl and wanted to live and loved living that she couldn't possibly die? That because she loved living there IS NO option of death for her?

I know, I'm overly cynical of words so I pick pick pick peoples words apart to try to get into their brain.

On the surface I see flat out ignoring what she has been told and honest to goodness exchanging of medical terms in an effort to not accept that any piece of Jahi is dead - just damaged. But I also wonder (forgive me for saying this) if there is some sort of mental deficiency going on here (low IQ or otherwise) where she doesn't understand the real meaning of Jahi's condition.

The hospital CLEARLY communicated to her as well as the public that Jahi is deceased. It went on for weeks, with the hospital using the proper terminology to do so. Proper terminology when addressing the situation is extremely important. This caused a uproar though, because there are those that saw it as being insensitive.

The mother is in extreme denial that Jahi is deceased. Her denial has been increased by those such and doctor Byrne who say that she is not deceased. Her denial has been fueled and enabled by those at the NB facility, the TS foundation and all the others that have sent these miraculous stories (lies) of people recovering, from death.

She has chosen to listen to these people over medical science and all the doctors, because they have told her that people recover from death.

 

[Quester]

Brain dead girl's family is in denial
http://www.telegram.com/article/20140109/COLUMN01/301099941/0/news03

 

[Linda7NJ]

The hospital CLEARLY communicated to her as well as the public that Jahi is deceased. It went on for weeks, with the hospital using the proper terminology to do so. Proper terminology when addressing the situation is extremely important. This caused a uproar though, because there are those that saw it as being insensitive.



The mother is in extreme denial that Jahi is deceased. Her denial has been increased by those such and doctor Byrne who say that she is not deceased. Her denial has been fueled and enabled by those at the NB facility, the TS foundation and all the others that have sent these miraculous stories (lies) of people recovering, from death.



She has chosen to listen to these people over medical science and all the doctors, because they have told her that people recover from death.

Her faith and belief is bolstered by stories like this one.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/h...teen-declared-brain-dead-by-four-doctors.html

If it's even a one in a billion chance, she is going to hang onto the belief her child is the one.


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[Steft50]

More misinformation (I know we all needed and wanted some more misinformation...):

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...y-brain-dead-teen-improving-article-1.1570343

The optimistic news comes just two days after Jahi McMath's family said that the teen may not "make it" after her surgically inserted tubes were removed by California doctors nearly one month ago.

Thanks Donjeta! So is this misreporting or is the lawyer accusing CHO of even more? Is there any reason the hospital would have removed any tubes and if they did what were they for?

 

[ferretnurse]

I was just watching this video again of Jahi's mother during an interview -

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/video?id=9368414


So, in listening to her exact words I'm really wondering whether or not she simply CHOSE to ignore or deny what the doctors told her in regards to their findings, or if medical terms were incorrectly exchanged that had (at least at some point) led her to false hope.

Here are several points in the video that I noted where I found the mothers comments not only questionable when it comes to complete understanding of the situation but also a few disturbing comments as to what SHE believes her prognosis is:

1:30 - she references Jahi's condition as brain DAMAGED not brain DEAD.
HUGE difference - was she never explained the difference in detail? Did she completely reject the word brain dead so she exchanged it for brain damage so as to not have to accept that any part of Jahi is actually dead? I have to assume the difference has been explained to the family - is this an acceptance issue?

2:05 - she states that when she touches the bottom of her feet that her feet move.
Is this possible? Is this an illusion on behalf of her knowing the "miraculous signs" of life? I (medically speaking) don't know if foot movement would/could indicate even a remote shred of hope of some sort of brain activity. So my question to anyone here who knows - if her feet DO move when touched (assuming it's true) WOULD that indicate that there actually IS brain activity? Again - not saying that what she says is true - I just want to know if her feet DID move, would that indicate brain activity of some sort?

2:20 - states flat out that Jahi is not a dead person - denial?

2:30 - states that she is simply "recuperating" - again...denial?

3:00 - states she can't be dead because "she loved life and loved living" - so does she seriously believe that people who die only do so because they don't WANT to live and didn't love living? She can't seriously believe that Jahi can't die because she enjoyed living can she?

3:20 - again states that she has a pulse and a heartbeat that is NOT the machine. Again, is this true? Or is this denial and complete disregard of what those machines are mechanically doing for Jahi?

4:00 - wonders why the hospital can't just do research on how to bring her back to her normal self. I ask yet again - is this denial or misleading information from the hospital as to Jahi's true state.

5:05 - interviewer asks that if an outside expert comes in, is there ANY point when you are ready to let her go - she states NO, no matter what.
This to me is flat out denial of the situation at hand. She is choosing to ignore the difference between brain damage and brain death.

5:15 - this is the one that I think is the MOST telling of the whole interview. She states that she KNOWS and has read other cases where a neurosurgeon said they were officially brain DEAD and those people woke up.
So here she references brain DEAD - not damaged - and believes those people woke up. This is where I wonder if she is (in her own mind) not differentiating between the two and believes they are the same thing and so she willingly exchanges the two as if there is no difference, just different words for the same thing.

5:45 - again states that there is NO POINT that she will accept that she won't recover - blatantly ignores the question and states "I just want her to get up"

5:53 / 6:09- this is the most heart-wrenching piece for me...where she goes on and on about how Jahi was a good girl and what kind of mother would she be to allow them to just pull the plug on her. She states she will wonder every single night when she goes to sleep whether that one more day would be the day she woke up.
Again - I have to ask - has NO ONE made it clear to her that the possibility of that does not exist? That she can NOT wake up from brain death?

Where is the root of the issue? Is it a conglomeration of denial and/or ignoring what has been said by all of these medical professionals or does she honestly believe that because Jahi was a good girl and wanted to live and loved living that she couldn't possibly die? That because she loved living there IS NO option of death for her?

I know, I'm overly cynical of words so I pick pick pick peoples words apart to try to get into their brain.

On the surface I see flat out ignoring what she has been told and honest to goodness exchanging of medical terms in an effort to not accept that any piece of Jahi is dead - just damaged. But I also wonder (forgive me for saying this) if there is some sort of mental deficiency going on here (low IQ or otherwise) where she doesn't understand the real meaning of Jahi's condition.

What I don't understand, is if they are so insistent that she can breathe on her own, and her heart can beat on its own, why do they need the machines? I'm seeing this as a contradiction of their religious beliefs as well. If you believe God will save her or He knows best, turn off the machine. If she lives, Christians around the world should celebrate Easter twice a year. If she dies, then it's Gods will, and she's in a better place.

After reading the statements of the family, people on their Facebook page, and these "doctors" that performed surgery on that poor deceased girl, the nurse in me feels like screaming. That poor child. I have taken care of bodies before, and the nurses at the hospital did the same, I'm sure with the utmost respect. Not so much the people caring for her now.

 

[Leilei]

Brain dead girl's family is in denial
http://www.telegram.com/article/20140109/COLUMN01/301099941/0/news03

Really good article, thank you for posting it.

 

[Donjeta]

Just as some are not happy that laws allow hospitals to remove ventilators from brain dead bodies, there are some that would like laws to be implemented preventing individuals and families, from removal of support from deceased individuals or those individuals that are being kept alive on life support, despite the wishes of the family or advanced directives.

Cardiac dead people are being discriminated against. Everyone just talks about the brain dead and the comatose and the vegetative individuals but the cardiac dead are no less deserving of a miracle than the brain damaged and their families. So they should all be fitted with a heart - lung machine.
Cardiopulmonary bypass - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Donjeta]

The optimistic news comes just two days after Jahi McMath's family said that the teen may not "make it" after her surgically inserted tubes were removed by California doctors nearly one month ago.

Thanks Donjeta! So is this misreporting or is the lawyer accusing CHO of even more? Is there any reason the hospital would have removed any tubes and if they did what were they for?

Just sloppy reporting. We know that Jahi was able to breathe and eat ice cream, popsicles etc so there was no reason for her to have a gastric tube or a tracheostomy before she became brain dead.

 

[Isabelle]

I know it would be expensive, but another MRI/brain scan might show the mother and family how much worse Jahi's condition really is. As a mother and RN, I would want to be present to view the MRI on screen as the imaging is done. I have seen one before and you can actually see blood cells flowing through the vessels of the body. It is amazing.

 

[ArianeEmory]

Her faith and belief is bolstered by stories like this one.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/h...teen-declared-brain-dead-by-four-doctors.html

If it's even a one in a billion chance, she is going to hang onto the belief her child is the one.


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This seems a little apples and oranges--this person was in a medically induced coma and they WERE able to detect "faint" brain activity.

 

[Frigga]

The hospital CLEARLY communicated to her as well as the public that Jahi is deceased. It went on for weeks, with the hospital using the proper terminology to do so. Proper terminology when addressing the situation is extremely important. This caused a uproar though, because there are those that saw it as being insensitive.

The mother is in extreme denial that Jahi is deceased. Her denial has been increased by those such and doctor Byrne who say that she is not deceased. Her denial has been fueled and enabled by those at the NB facility, the TS foundation and all the others that have sent these miraculous stories (lies) of people recovering, from death.

She has chosen to listen to these people over medical science and all the doctors, because they have told her that people recover from death.

I agree with what you are saying. Absolutely. After watching the video of the interview with the mother it is apparent she is in extreme denial/delusion.

Here is my thinking, in terms of the part of your post I have bolded- in her mind these same "doctors" (interchangeable in her mind) told her (or at the very least what she heard) was that her beloved daughter was going in for a fairly routine surgery (I am almost certain this is the way she "heard" it) and came out of surgery fine; smiling, writing and well.

Then all hell breaks loose and she passes out because it was all too much to handle (I can understand).

Believing those very same doctors (in her mind) afterward, as to the condition of her daughter fell on deaf, unbelieving ears because in her mind THEY LIED TO HER IN THE FIRST PLACE. This is how I see the intense, unrelenting denial she is eschewing. The moment things didn't go as the doctors said they would- they became the enemy- before the pronouncement of brain death even- the moment things went to hell in a hand basket.

I hate to admit this, even knowing what I know but I would like a miracle- for completely selfish reasons- I would. We, the unsuspecting public look at doctors as Gods, not reasonable- not even fair but many of us do and when (in our minds) they let us down then who can we look to? She is listening to these other people because in her mind they have no ulterior motives, they aren't seeking financial gain (not attorneys) they are sharing their stories out of the goodness of their hearts, and she trusts them. I understand her intense and powerful ability not to 'take the words' of the medical professionals who lied to her in the first place (in her mind). That is how she sees it... that is how she needs to see it.

I can offer her my compassion for that very reason.

God speed the universe to take Jahi home, once and for all, let her heart stop beating so her mother can move forward believing she fought the good fight for the baby girl "she loved before she was ever born"... I hope I never have to know her pain personally or walk in her shoes. MOO

 

[MaybeNotToday]

Brain dead girl's family is in denial
http://www.telegram.com/article/20140109/COLUMN01/301099941/0/news03

Finally, some sense getting knocked into the media. I mean really, media has no excuse to perpetuate the ignorance - it's not like they are the grieving family members in denial.

The lawyer, the media and I'll go out on a limb and say the uncle, IMO, all know exactly what they are doing and I think that is what makes me so angry.

I'm still on the fence with regards to her pastor. He has enabled her, but I don't think it's for nefarious reasons as the people I already blamed. BUT, he does carry a lot of power and therefore responsibility. Until he makes a statement that he's counseled Jahi's mom and told her it would be ok to let go, I'm going to assume he's stuck his head in the sand and completely failed this family.

JMO