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"The truth shall set you free." ~JUSTICE FOR REBEC
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I teach critical thinking @ the adult ed.- college level and as part of our work we often examine court case arguments and evidence. I also teach them that any good argument must address ( and solve) counter arguments.
This mod. one of my students is an EMT with over 10 years experience on ambulances in the NY Metro area ( and the night before had a call on a suicide- 38 male). I was discussing this case with him after class. He said a few things that have really made me think- which pertain to this case.
He said that he been to many many suicide scenes- 3 suicide by hangings calls. In all three cases the suicide was naked. 2/3 were naked women. all 3 did lose control of bowels. HE said this is always the case- as he has experienced. HE also said that 2 of them were both naked and bound with ropes. ( he said loose ropes - do tighten force of body weight and gravity ) hmmm:-(
Until now I was in the camp and firm belief that no woman would kill herself naked and that was evidence to support the belief that she was murdered.
I was also in the camp that her religious upbringing would inhibit her views of suicide as a possibility. The same student stated...if she was so distraught-at ms accident- she possibly would have questioned " how could there even be a god if such tragedy exists in the world" Hmmm another one of my favorite arguments dashed.
However, There were key aspects of the case for murder- though that he pointed out were present.
lividity /ligature marks /hair
When he heard lividity in her back and not her legs and feet- His opinion changed and he changed his tune immediately. As we have discussed many times in this forum. He said - the over the top evidence that she did not commit suicide was !-lividity in her back and not in her feet. HE said that this happens immediately- and that if she did hang herself the lividity would be in her feet- not her back due to the lead content in human blood.
HE surmised that she died in a horizontal position and lividity may have set in in such a way that the perps...could not manage the former plan to make it appear that she had hung herself. Between her weight and stiffening- they could possibly not even have gotten the noose into the position to hang her at all. Which may have caused conflicting damage to her neck. This has really made me think ( I also have a long commute) maybe they were dragging her around to try to position her and that is how her feet became caked with mud.
He also mentioned the presence of ligature marks ( as evidence murder not suicide) and paused a very long time in consideration of her long hair underneath it all.
He also said any body functions present at the scene of a death, on the victim are detailed in EMS and Police reports. and found it odd that if this was suicide- by hanging from length of rope there would be.
I though these were very interesting perspectives from the student a very very critical -" critical thinker"
Thank you for letting me share these thoughts on both sides.
Praying for justice for BeckyZ
That is excellent to have a perspective from an actual EMT on noose-hanging & naked suiciders.
I appreciate the EMT's comments, particular that about lividity found on Becky's back and not her lower legs/feet, and also about defecation subsequent to a hanging. Do you think it is possible that the murderers strangled Becky first while Becky was in a horizontal position. Perhaps they had the t-shirt or noose around her neck along with hogtie of her hands and feet while dragging her on her back from the courtyard into the house? Maybe she had tried to run and murderers caught her. Hence her dirty feet from running in courtyard with wet feet after her shower.
Then murderers carried a semi-unconscious/dead Becky up the stairs to murder room, and lifted prints/DNA off her by using adhesive tape and transferring the DNA onto strategic locations in the room to give the illusion that Becky touched the items, e.g., bed post, ropes, paintbrushes, etc.?
If Becky was still half-conscious, maybe murderers interrogated her about Max's accident.
This suicide staging likely took a while so lividity on Becky's back settled there. And that may be why she did not defecate. She was already long dead and her biological/physiological functions stopped already?
Then they tossed Becky over balcony and went to courtyard to further stage the scene by swinging her to and fro -- as in "The Housemaid" movie. The murderers had to have sick minds to orchestrate all this, so they went overboard in their staging and threw in everything -- multiple pairs of gloves, several paintbrushes, several knives, etc.
Maybe they even thought of setting Becky on fire, but decided nudity and hanging by noose in public courtyard would have more gross, melodramatic effect reminiscent of shameful public hangings so they decided against immolation. Just thinking aloud.