FDA poised to OK food from cloned animals

[Maybe So]

The article says generally the idea is to clone the best animals and then use their offspring as a food source. To those of you that are not willing to eat cloned meat, do you feel the same about the offspring of the cloned animals? they would be conceived naturally.

Personally, I don't care one way or the other if they clone food producing animals. But as for their offspring being conceived naturally.... I doubt it.....a lot of livestock (especially cattle) are already bred by artificial insemination rather than natural methods of conception and reproduction.
This allows several cows to be inseminated by one bull at the same time. Saving time and producing more numbers and more widespread offspring of a single bull than could be achieved through natural means of conception. Semen from bulls who produce superior offspring can be shipped all over the country rather than only being used on cows that are on the same farm/ranch. Basically cloning is just the next step in preserving the genes of these superior animals. Producing more superior offspring at a faster rate and improving the breeds and food production at a faster rate. Also, a single outstanding cow can only give birth to 1 (or 2) offspring a year and only for a her fairly short lifespan. Clone a dozen copies of her and you get more chances for outstanding offspring and for years to come.

 

[Maybe So]

I do not beleive they have had a fertile cloned animal yet.

Articles I have read says they have imune deficiency problems and never live to a normal age even if they appear to be healthy. I ain't eating no sick cows.

They need to do a lot more research before they bring in the clones.

I am not so sure about that.

I have read that a cloned cat had 3 healthy kittens and that several cloned cows have given birth to calves. Not only that but they have cloned a horse for the express purpose of breeding him.

Scamper, a very famous World Champion Barrel Racing Quarter horse was recently cloned. He was cloned because Scamper was a gelding and could not father any offspring. Many people would have loved to be able to breed their mares to Scamper in the hopes of producing a top Barrel Racing Horse. So, his owners had him cloned. They plan to use the clone, Clayton, for breeding purposes only...not for Barrel Racing....they do not want to risk him....essentially people can now have a foal from a stallion that is not actually Scamper but who is genetically identical to Scamper.


http://www.livescience.com/animalworld/061116_ap_cloned_horse.html

 

[JBean]

Personally, I don't care one way or the other if they clone food producing animals. But as for their offspring being conceived naturally.... I doubt it.....a lot of livestock (especially cattle) are already bred by artificial insemination rather than natural methods of conception and reproduction.
This allows several cows to be inseminated by one bull at the same time. Saving time and producing more numbers and more widespread offspring of a single bull than could be achieved through natural means of conception. Semen from bulls who produce superior offspring can be shipped all over the country rather than only being used on cows that are on the same farm/ranch. Basically cloning is just the next step in preserving the genes of these superior animals. Producing more superior offspring at a faster rate and improving the breeds and food production at a faster rate. Also, a single outstanding cow can only give birth to 1 (or 2) offspring a year and only for a her fairly short lifespan. Clone a dozen copies of her and you get more chances for outstanding offspring and for years to come.

You are so right.What I meant was, they would be conceived in the prevailing accepted traditional method. I know zero about meat production, never touch the stuff. But all I meant was that the offspring of the cloned animals would be bred however it is done "typically" Thanks for the info.

 

[Maybe So]

You are so right.What I meant was, they would be conceived in the prevailing accepted traditional method. I know zero about meat production, never touch the stuff. But all I meant was that the offspring of the cloned animals would be bred however it is done "typically" Thanks for the info.

Well as for peoples attitudes I was reading that recently semen from a single bull was used to impregnate 300 cows in Switzerland. The bull is the son of a cow that was cloned. The bull himself is a "natural" offspring (not a clone), and from what I read he is an exceptional animal...yet I guess the Swiss Cattle Breeders Association is not happy with the move.

So, in response to your question above I am guessing that many peoples attitudes will be negative toward cloning and negative toward even the natural offspring of clones.

I think people have a science fiction movie image stuck in their minds of a clone being a bad copy of the original thing.

 

[czechmate7]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Good one JB!!

Mad Clone Disease?

 

[JBean]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Good one JB!!

I kind of like MaybeSo's notion of this wild clone "gone bad" from a sci fi movie.

 

[Buzz Mills]

I kind of like MaybeSo's notion of this wild clone "gone bad" from a sci fi movie.

All we would need are a couple of horror pictures about a mad clone disease, and that would have everyone balking about eating the offspring of cloned animals.

 

[Buzz Mills]

I kind of like MaybeSo's notion of this wild clone "gone bad" from a sci fi movie.

A couple of my high school classmates wrote and made the movie "The Night Of The Living Dead" --at least one of them is looking for his last great creation--maybe an MCD movie could be it.

 

[JBean]

A couple of my high school classmates wrote and made the movie "The Night Of The Living Dead" --at least one of them is looking for his last great creation--maybe an MCD movie could be it.

Oh this is brilliant. Sell him on it.

 

[Maybe So]

Night of the Living Clones.

Clone cows get MCD turn on the normal cows and eat them. Farmer wakes up in the morning to find all the cloned cows fat, happy and content in their stalls....no sign of the normal cows.......or the family pets.....

 

[JBean]

Night of the Living Clones.

Clone cows get MCD turn on the normal cows and eat them. Farmer wakes up in the morning to find all the cloned cows fat, happy and content in their stalls....no sign of the normal cows.......or the family pets.....

Unknowingly, clone meat is distributed throughout the US. But as we soon find out, this isn't just any meat.

 

[czechmate7]

Unknowingly, clone meat is distributed throughout the US. But as we soon find out, this isn't just any meat.

And the people who *unknowingly* consume the cloned meat all of a sudden start producing clones of themselves....but their clones are ****evil*****(putting the pinky to the lower lip like Dr.Evil)

 

[JBean]

And the people who *unknowingly* consume the cloned meat all of a sudden start producing clones of themselves....but their clones are ****evil*****(putting the pinky to the lower lip like Dr.Evil)

Scene switches to evil Professor Von Clonedike. He is seated at a restaurant table eating a meal of sprouts and tofu. He turns to his eating companion and says "please Mr. President have another filet."

 

[czechmate7]

Scene switches to evil Professor Von Clonedike. He is seated at a restaurant table eating a meal of sprouts and tofu. He turns to his eating companion and says "please Mr. President have another filet."

But, little does the evil professor know, Mr President has already chowed down on a huge hunk of FDA cloned beef and has been cloned; the ***evil*** (pinky to the lower lip) clone has tied up Mr President and is reaking havit on our country!!

**BTW*** I want some royalties outta this !!!

 

[Autumn2004]

This is why I eat organic only. I choose to avoid these kind of products and gmo's as much as possible.

Gmo's are allowed and to me it just doesnt seem healthy, how can foods that have chemically produced bacteria's in it that kill off insects if they land on it be safe? Increased risk of allergies by foods being altered in a way that would never happen naturally.

I understand farmers like the thought of these because of strawberries and fruits will be frost resistant, bug resistant, and vaccines can be added to reduce problems in third world countries. But my issue with it also is its unknown and they dont have to tell you if its cloned or a gmo product. It should be your right to decide whether you want to eat it or not.

If you have a food intolerance you are in real trouble. Legally they do not have to list these and other foods such as corn products and people can have asthma attacks due to this or if they have an intolerance they will have colon damage and be at high risk for colon cancer unknowningly.

I have huge issues with our food being altered and not being aware of it.