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Supposedly on Friday.
Found Deceased FL – Jordan Belliveau, 2, Largo, 1 SEP 2018 *ARREST*
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I took notes of everything (I hope) that was mentioned in the presser including the questions asked by the news media. I hope this is somewhat helpful.
LE Speak:
Asking for whoever has Jordan to take him to a safe place. Just bring Jordan back safe.
Thanks multiple teams
Received 40 tips across the state, have all been run down.
Walking through developments on map
Mother reports that she exited her apartment and is offered a ride by “Atwan” – dreadlocks, gold teeth, accepted the ride to a friends house because of long walk and Jordan is very heavy.
“Antwan” drove her to next location where they had an altercation and she was struck. Last place she saw jordan.
Video shows her walking in the park, “confirms” timeline. She walks across the street to ask for assistance/911. She was treated.
LE have gone up and down East Bay asking for video evidence… asking residents to check their surveillance between 9:30pm on 9/1 - 1am 9/2.
White Toyota Camry, painted front grill.
Changes to Special agent supervisor – child abduction response team for Tampa. Talking about what they do.
Back to LE:
Shows sketch of “Antwan”.
As they progress into the next stage of the investigation, continuing ground work, checking roads etc. Again, asking public to review their surveillance footage. Very much appreciate media and tips that have come in and caring thoughts for Jordan and his family.
Questions from news media:
Who is the last person, other than his mother, to see jordan?
- He doesn’t have that information, believes mom is the only one that saw him that day. He was last seen by someone other than mom on Friday afternoon.
Asks about calls to her home for other incidents?
- 6 total incidents, 2 follow up calls – officers checking on her following 2 911 hang ups from that location. Also a battery arrest for domestic violence at that address.
- CPI involved with the mother
- LE have been out with CPI to assist.
Can you tell us about CPI at the address with bullhorns?
- Cant say much but it did happen, yes. LE did assist them.
Is the battery case related to the father punching her in the face when he bought jordan home?
- There was a battery case on 7/14/18.
Long standing history of DV between these two parents – how does this play into the investigation?
- Nothing distracts us from looking for Jordan. All factors are considered. Nothing specific to focus on that detracts from looking for Jordan.
Is the mother pregnant?
- Can’t comment, don’t know.
Can you talk about the video from the park?
- Hasn’t seen the video, in operations. Doesn’t believe it shows much, not great quality.
4 hour period where mom was unconscious? Can she explain that?
- Still focusing on that, key part of investigation. May be one area where we find the clue, what happened during that time… they do not have anything further on that. Checking the areas contained in Mom’s story from that time.
How consistent are the mothers injuries?
- She does have injuries to her head that could explain unconsciousness. He doesn’t know if she was knocked out for that whole 4 hours.
Hearing from neighbors that they are finding bloody evidence?
- We are collecting everything and anything that may be of value. Doesn’t mean it is relevant. Confirms they have found bloody clothing. Does not know if it is Jordan’s clothing. It was found at the apartment complex, not sure where exactly.
Asks about pond search.
- Making sure Jordan did not walk outside and fall in the pond. Dive team are spot on with doing their job. Doing a grid search. Doing it systematically.
How deep is that pond?
- I have no idea.
Sounds like she has a troubled past, is her story holding up?
- At this point she is continuing to cooperate, yes.
Is there a county wide database that you can look for aliases of “Antwan”?
- Analysts are providing them that support.
Are the searches done for tonight?
- Yes. The weather has stopped them.
Which resources are being used?
- All resources available are being used. Raised concerns given length of time that has passed.
Is it troubling that two days into the investigation there is no evidence of where this little boy is?
- Frustrating, but they ARE going to find Jordan. They just need help from the public, again, asking for public help with checking surveillance. Also looking to not find evidence (rule places out.)
Any award?
- No, that might be the next step.
Given Fathers history, are you satisfied he was not involved?
- He has cooperated and has provided an alibi which was verifiable.
Have you asked Mom to take a polygraph?
- No
Mothers demeanor?
- Overwhelmed. She is young. Too much to handle.
Hearing reports she was on the verge of being evicted?
- She is a struggling single mother, yes. He does not believe she is employed.
How concerning is it that we are reaching that 48 hour point?
- It’s concerning. He has done this a lot of these cases. Mentions earlier Florida cases. But they are waiting for that big break. It’s coming. They are not going to give up and despite little information coming out, they are going to find Jordan.
Given that the best leads are coming from the Mother, why have you not asked her to take a polygraph? And will you?
- Believes that might be the next step in the investigation. He is not in investigations team.
Asks about rumors that Jordan was sick/had a seizure?
- Not privy to Jordan’s medical history.
Are you expanding the search from the pond/area that “Antwan” picked them up?
- Focus is where we have a belief that Jordan was. And they will continue that until it is exhausted. If anything else comes to light, they will expand but will expand as they go anyway just to be safe.
Any other water ways near there?
- Yes there is around the park and there is a power station which they might do a walk. But all of these areas have been searched by helicopter but they will continue to search (on foot I assume).
Where did mom get knocked unconscious?
- Lake and East Bay. That is where she reported to us.
At any point do you think there will be a shoulder to shoulder forest march?
- Yes. Might occur as soon as tomorrow or the next day. Every day they are having briefings to establish where they think will be most affective.
Has anyone talked to the father?
- Yes, he has been cooperative?
Are they still in the apartment complex?
- They are staying at alternate locations.
Can you say mothers name?
- No. Not at liberty to release that based on the investigation.
You mentioned that you have video that corroborates that she was there 4 hours later, do you see her walking to (or through) the park at this point or do you see a vehicle?
- I do not have specifics, I know they do see her walking but I don’t know if that is walking in or walking out.
Are there traffic cameras along east bay?
- There may be. But I don’t know what they captured and they don’t have access to traffic cameras at this time.
Hearing that she is in witness protection after receiving death threats? Is there anything to that?
- Never heard anything like that.
Any reason to believe anyone would want to harm her or her child?
- I don’t know whose out there on FB and saying things but I can tell you she was not in witness protection.
Mother contacted us (news media) to state that she did not say that she was unconscious for 4 hours?
- That’s what she told us.
Are you going to release the video from the park?
- I am hoping to do that tomorrow.
LE Speak:
Asking for whoever has Jordan to take him to a safe place. Just bring Jordan back safe.
Thanks multiple teams
Received 40 tips across the state, have all been run down.
Walking through developments on map
Mother reports that she exited her apartment and is offered a ride by “Atwan” – dreadlocks, gold teeth, accepted the ride to a friends house because of long walk and Jordan is very heavy.
“Antwan” drove her to next location where they had an altercation and she was struck. Last place she saw jordan.
Video shows her walking in the park, “confirms” timeline. She walks across the street to ask for assistance/911. She was treated.
LE have gone up and down East Bay asking for video evidence… asking residents to check their surveillance between 9:30pm on 9/1 - 1am 9/2.
White Toyota Camry, painted front grill.
Changes to Special agent supervisor – child abduction response team for Tampa. Talking about what they do.
Back to LE:
Shows sketch of “Antwan”.
As they progress into the next stage of the investigation, continuing ground work, checking roads etc. Again, asking public to review their surveillance footage. Very much appreciate media and tips that have come in and caring thoughts for Jordan and his family.
Questions from news media:
Who is the last person, other than his mother, to see jordan?
- He doesn’t have that information, believes mom is the only one that saw him that day. He was last seen by someone other than mom on Friday afternoon.
Asks about calls to her home for other incidents?
- 6 total incidents, 2 follow up calls – officers checking on her following 2 911 hang ups from that location. Also a battery arrest for domestic violence at that address.
- CPI involved with the mother
- LE have been out with CPI to assist.
Can you tell us about CPI at the address with bullhorns?
- Cant say much but it did happen, yes. LE did assist them.
Is the battery case related to the father punching her in the face when he bought jordan home?
- There was a battery case on 7/14/18.
Long standing history of DV between these two parents – how does this play into the investigation?
- Nothing distracts us from looking for Jordan. All factors are considered. Nothing specific to focus on that detracts from looking for Jordan.
Is the mother pregnant?
- Can’t comment, don’t know.
Can you talk about the video from the park?
- Hasn’t seen the video, in operations. Doesn’t believe it shows much, not great quality.
4 hour period where mom was unconscious? Can she explain that?
- Still focusing on that, key part of investigation. May be one area where we find the clue, what happened during that time… they do not have anything further on that. Checking the areas contained in Mom’s story from that time.
How consistent are the mothers injuries?
- She does have injuries to her head that could explain unconsciousness. He doesn’t know if she was knocked out for that whole 4 hours.
Hearing from neighbors that they are finding bloody evidence?
- We are collecting everything and anything that may be of value. Doesn’t mean it is relevant. Confirms they have found bloody clothing. Does not know if it is Jordan’s clothing. It was found at the apartment complex, not sure where exactly.
Asks about pond search.
- Making sure Jordan did not walk outside and fall in the pond. Dive team are spot on with doing their job. Doing a grid search. Doing it systematically.
How deep is that pond?
- I have no idea.
Sounds like she has a troubled past, is her story holding up?
- At this point she is continuing to cooperate, yes.
Is there a county wide database that you can look for aliases of “Antwan”?
- Analysts are providing them that support.
Are the searches done for tonight?
- Yes. The weather has stopped them.
Which resources are being used?
- All resources available are being used. Raised concerns given length of time that has passed.
Is it troubling that two days into the investigation there is no evidence of where this little boy is?
- Frustrating, but they ARE going to find Jordan. They just need help from the public, again, asking for public help with checking surveillance. Also looking to not find evidence (rule places out.)
Any award?
- No, that might be the next step.
Given Fathers history, are you satisfied he was not involved?
- He has cooperated and has provided an alibi which was verifiable.
Have you asked Mom to take a polygraph?
- No
Mothers demeanor?
- Overwhelmed. She is young. Too much to handle.
Hearing reports she was on the verge of being evicted?
- She is a struggling single mother, yes. He does not believe she is employed.
How concerning is it that we are reaching that 48 hour point?
- It’s concerning. He has done this a lot of these cases. Mentions earlier Florida cases. But they are waiting for that big break. It’s coming. They are not going to give up and despite little information coming out, they are going to find Jordan.
Given that the best leads are coming from the Mother, why have you not asked her to take a polygraph? And will you?
- Believes that might be the next step in the investigation. He is not in investigations team.
Asks about rumors that Jordan was sick/had a seizure?
- Not privy to Jordan’s medical history.
Are you expanding the search from the pond/area that “Antwan” picked them up?
- Focus is where we have a belief that Jordan was. And they will continue that until it is exhausted. If anything else comes to light, they will expand but will expand as they go anyway just to be safe.
Any other water ways near there?
- Yes there is around the park and there is a power station which they might do a walk. But all of these areas have been searched by helicopter but they will continue to search (on foot I assume).
Where did mom get knocked unconscious?
- Lake and East Bay. That is where she reported to us.
At any point do you think there will be a shoulder to shoulder forest march?
- Yes. Might occur as soon as tomorrow or the next day. Every day they are having briefings to establish where they think will be most affective.
Has anyone talked to the father?
- Yes, he has been cooperative?
Are they still in the apartment complex?
- They are staying at alternate locations.
Can you say mothers name?
- No. Not at liberty to release that based on the investigation.
You mentioned that you have video that corroborates that she was there 4 hours later, do you see her walking to (or through) the park at this point or do you see a vehicle?
- I do not have specifics, I know they do see her walking but I don’t know if that is walking in or walking out.
Are there traffic cameras along east bay?
- There may be. But I don’t know what they captured and they don’t have access to traffic cameras at this time.
Hearing that she is in witness protection after receiving death threats? Is there anything to that?
- Never heard anything like that.
Any reason to believe anyone would want to harm her or her child?
- I don’t know whose out there on FB and saying things but I can tell you she was not in witness protection.
Mother contacted us (news media) to state that she did not say that she was unconscious for 4 hours?
- That’s what she told us.
Are you going to release the video from the park?
- I am hoping to do that tomorrow.
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Thanks for doing that @AnaPisces
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Is it me or does it look like he is wearing a work badge & black scrubs? You can see it when the video ends (bottom of shirt).
Could it be a belt or a lanyard for keys/like for a place of employment?
just speculation
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Oh wow, looks like I was on spelling mistake avenue
... all corrected (hopefully) and tided up now.
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I don't think it is, it could be but it looks thicker than any lanyard i have seen. In reality we will probably never know what it is.
Chihuahua super sense I guess...was longing for your help and you saw the "Chi" light in the sky.
Thank you for everything you do on every case you help with!!!!
Can anyone tell if there's a passenger in that car? An Adult?
TIA
@AnaPisces thank you so much for your transcribing. It helps a lot.
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Came across a FB person who is videoing all kinds of things. The news stations were there as well. Hopefully we will get some additional info from this. IMO
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Looked like a lanyard of sometype to me
There's definitely new evidence and I think someone already linked the news station that is going to be covering it tonight.
I am so getting the Lonzie Barton vibe on this, tho not with someone the mom was seeing tho.
jmo
ETA any locals or anyone good w/maps---how far is this gas station from the point where the mom says the assault happened which vanished Jordan? TIA
I was just informed it is five minutes by car
I am so getting the Lonzie Barton vibe on this, tho not with someone the mom was seeing tho.
jmo
ETA any locals or anyone good w/maps---how far is this gas station from the point where the mom says the assault happened which vanished Jordan? TIA
I was just informed it is five minutes by car
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Maybe wishful thinking, but I thought there might be a squirming child in the passenger seat, perhaps on someone's lap.
Going to take a break before more news comes in from MSM, which it is going to soon enough in my opinion. Just like everybody else, I have my "alerts" set and am waiting for the pieces to fall into place. May be today. May be a year from now. We'll still be here.
This is some sad sad stuff going down.
This is some sad sad stuff going down.
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I never see anything in photos/videos but I do believe I see a passenger in that car
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Is it within TOS to allude to a statement made by a family member on FB? This was in regard to the mom’s story.
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What a Kerfuffle...
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Worked, thanks. That is obviously not our "Antwan". Why does LE think he is important? Is Mom trying to throw people under the bus now? Just thinking out loud...
I'm confused because the police act like they DO believe her. Issuing the Amber Alert. Continuing to ask for people who have seen JORDAN. I mean we've seen cases where we thought the mother was lying through her teeth and her story was true. Maybe?
They are treating this as an abduction. They are treating her with kid gloves (likely to ensure her continued cooperation so she will crack and tell them the truth.)
Why haven't they released her picture as well? Especially now that they are asking the guy at the gas station to come forward. Well, what it he doesn't know who he supposedly talked to because Jordan wasn't with her!
They should be releasing her picture as well. If Jordan wasn't with her, maybe people won't come forward because they don't realize they talked to her. Or maybe LE figures that the sketch will be close enough...
I hope Jordan's Dad can keep it together and avoid doing anything crazy. Just in case Jordan IS alive and okay... it would be awful for him to not have either parent to return to.
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