FL- 12 Story Condo Partial Building Collapse, many still unaccounted for, Miami, 24 June 2021 #2

[ilovewings]

Officials: Hacker stole identities of multiple victims killed in Surfside condo collapse

Just when you think you've heard and seen it all comes this: hacker(s) stealing identity of deceased persons from the Surfside building collapse: they have not caught that person or persons yet, but when they do, these deserve a very tough punishment.

 

[SouthAussie]

This is the original feed for the Because Surfside stream (typically I haven't seen it down, but it's also not zoomed).
Champlain Towers South

Because Surfside Youtube is basically a zoomed in view of the previous recovery area.

They have made a good dent on the pile to the right of the screen where the part was demo'd for safety. But with that it looks like there is a lot more water, but they are also spraying water onto the pile for whatever reason they need.

I think they would be spraying water to keep the concrete dust down. It is not particularly healthy for the workers to be breathing concrete dust - even with their protective masks on they could potentially be exposed to fine particles of dust.

 

[CocoChanel]

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[IQuestion]

 

[SuziQ]

 

[Ann99]

TY!
Very good, worth watching.
An understandable visual explanation to possible contributing factors.
Gives credence to this quote from a link posted upthread. Page 38, #754 SouthAussie

"And yet one memory stuck with him, the amount of seawater that would make its way into the underground garage.
"Any time that we had high tides away from the ordinary, any King Tide or anything like that, we would have a lot of saltwater come in through the bottom of thefoundation,” he claimed, adding they had to use two large pumps to try and remove the rising water. “But it was so much water, all the time, that the pumps never could keep up with it.”
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The drawings/illustrations/ in this video make it clear.

 

[Dawookie]

I think they would be spraying water to keep the concrete dust down. It is not particularly healthy for the workers to be breathing concrete dust - even with their protective masks on they could potentially be exposed to fine particles of dust.

Not only the concrete dust but there's also a good chance there's asbestos as well in some form.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Surfside downtown suffers after condo building collapse (nbcnews.com)

“In the last year, we saw maybe 15 businesses on the street here close. I hope we don’t see that again now," one business owner said.

Michael Labi, who manages the restaurant owned by his family, noted how slow business had become in recent weeks since Champlain Towers South collapsed a mile away.

“I'm not going to complain about business when people have lost their lives and parents and family members, but it has been very slow,” he said, adding he knew many regular customers who lived in New York and Canada and owned homes in the area were not returning to Surfside during this time. “Even during COVID we had business, but not like this.”

Business owners along Harding Avenue have said that the collapse of the condo building nearby has taken an emotional toll on them, as many have lost friends and regular customers. Some also noted that it has created an economic ripple effect, as well...

 

[sds71]

@MiamiDadePD
We have identified an additional victim that sadly and unexpectedly lost her life in the tragic Surfside building collapse. Please keep her family and loved ones in your prayers.

Among them was Theresa Velasquez, whom Live Nation CEO Michael Rapino described as "a beloved friend, daughter, sister and co-worker."
Florida building collapse: Live Nation executive from LA among those unaccounted for, CEO says

 

[dixiegirl1035]

It looks like they have moved in sandbags to ramp?


Source: BecauseSurfside live feed screenshot (which is now back up)

 

[Dontknow?]

Does anyone know what condo unit Theresa Velaquez' parents lived in? Wondering if she could have been the person they were trying to rescue and talked to in the ruble for almost 10 hours from the garage area?

RIP Theresa

 

[sds71]

Does anyone know what condo unit Theresa Velaquez' parents lived in? Wondering if she could have been the person they were trying to rescue and talked to in the ruble for almost 10 hours from the garage area?

RIP Theresa

#304

 

[indicolite22]

Does anyone know what condo unit Theresa Velaquez' parents lived in? Wondering if she could have been the person they were trying to rescue and talked to in the ruble for almost 10 hours from the garage area?

RIP Theresa

Theresa's identification took nine days. Maybe that's normal after so much time has passed since the collapse.

 

[sds71]

Before designing Surfside condo that fell, engineer had hand in another building mess:

Just a few years before structural engineer Sergio Breiterman signed off on the construction work at Champlain Towers South Condominium, he vouched for a new municipal building in Coral Gables that, within months of completion, “leaked like a sieve”, “smelled like wet dog,” and developed cracks in the garage due to a dangerous construction flaw, records from the city and newspaper articles from the time show.

In 1972, Breiterman’s engineering firm, Breiterman, Jurado & Associates, was hired by Coral Gables’ architect Klements and Associates to provide structural engineering expertise on a new, five-story Public Safety Building, including an attached garage. Breiterman also performed inspections during the $5 million construction effort to ensure that everything was up to code and built according to the approved building plans, a Miami Herald article published in 1976 said.

But Breiterman overlooked at least one critical and potentially life-threatening construction defect — insufficient steel reinforcements in parts of the concrete structure, the article said.


Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/lo...ami-beach/article252853473.html#storylink=cpy

 

[al66pine]

I think they would be spraying water to keep the concrete dust down. It is not particularly healthy for the workers to be breathing concrete dust - even with their protective masks on they could potentially be exposed to fine particles of dust.

@SouthAussie sbm Thanks for your post.
Yes, some dust, not just concrete, is very sneaky, trying to make its way thru protective masks.
And I think, the finer the particles, the more more they clog up filters in the masks and make it difficult for ppl to breathe.

Must be a struggle, along w all the other challenges. A big thank you to all there.

 

[Sillybilly]

This thread is specifically dedicated to discussion of the Surfside collapse.

Please don't introduce details from other cases into this discussion just because they are similar. It becomes very difficult for both members and WS staff to know which case is being referred to, and it is very time consuming for Mods to figure out what's what and decide which posts are OT or not.

Thank you.

 

[SuziQ]

Before designing Surfside condo that fell, engineer had hand in another building mess:

Just a few years before structural engineer Sergio Breiterman signed off on the construction work at Champlain Towers South Condominium, he vouched for a new municipal building in Coral Gables that, within months of completion, “leaked like a sieve”, “smelled like wet dog,” and developed cracks in the garage due to a dangerous construction flaw, records from the city and newspaper articles from the time show.

In 1972, Breiterman’s engineering firm, Breiterman, Jurado & Associates, was hired by Coral Gables’ architect Klements and Associates to provide structural engineering expertise on a new, five-story Public Safety Building, including an attached garage. Breiterman also performed inspections during the $5 million construction effort to ensure that everything was up to code and built according to the approved building plans, a Miami Herald article published in 1976 said.

But Breiterman overlooked at least one critical and potentially life-threatening construction defect — insufficient steel reinforcements in parts of the concrete structure, the article said.


Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/lo...ami-beach/article252853473.html#storylink=cpy

Every building that structural engineer worked on needs to be inspected

 

[mickey2942]

This is beyond belief. Imagine, dealing with the death of both of your parents, and then, finding out that their identities were stolen.

Florida condo collapse victims targeted by identity thieves stealing money

 

[sds71]

Surfside building collapse update
MIAMI ( July 17, 2021 ) —
Today, Miami-Dade County released the following update on the Surfside building collapse response and recovery:

Search and Recovery

As of today, July 17, 95 victims have been identified and 95 families have been notified. 241 people are accounted for; 97 missing persons reports were opened with the Miami-Dade Police Department.

At this step in the recovery process it has become increasingly difficult to identify victims, and we are relying heavily on the work of the medical examiner’s office and the scientific, technical process of identifying human remains. This work becomes more difficult with the passage of time although our teams are working as hard and as fast as they can.

Out of respect for the families who are still waiting and to ensure we are reporting the most accurate possible numbers, we will only be reporting the number of victims who have been identified.


Surfside building collapse update

 

[IceIce9]

40 years ago one of the worst structure collapses in the US occurred, the Hyatt Regency tragedy. I can barely remember it and had forgotten most of the details.

One Of The Deadliest U.S. Accidental Structural Collapses Happened 40 Years Ago Today

It remains one of the deadliest accidental structural building failures in U.S. history and is drawing parallels to the recent condo collapse in Surfside, Fla., that killed nearly 100 people roughly 40 years later.

How the Hyatt Regency collapse unfolded

In 1981 — the same year the Champlain Towers South condo building in Surfside was constructed — the Hyatt Regency Hotel some 1,500 miles away was enjoying its second summer open to the public.

The concrete "skybridges" floating above the lobby were a marquee feature of the new, 40-story hotel in the middle of Missouri's largest city.