FL - 17-yo Boy Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain

[JeannaT]

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/man-who-shot-killed-teen-sanford-neighborhood-has-/nLPgL/

includes a video. article says he called to report a "suspicious black man." Is that how he actually worded it in the call?

I'm guessing that's the reporter's wording. I don't think the public has any information about what was in the call except what the LE spokesperson said.

 

[MicciStella]

I found the picture that they ran on the website in another article. It's a mugshot from his earlier arrest when he was about 22. He looks older to me than that, but guess not.

http://opnateye.com/?p=319

Oh my God... Seriously, looking at GZ, I would be totally scared of him... I would leave the side of the road or the place right away...

Looking at Trayvon I have to say he just seems to be a normal nice teenager....

So sad...

Micci

 

[daisy7]

MIAMI GARDENS (CBS4) – On the steps of the Miami Gardens church where Trayvon Martin’s funeral was held one week ago, his family and friends returned to demand justice Sunday night.

The Miami teen was killed in Sanford, near Orlando, two weeks ago. At the time Martin was vacationing with his father.

“Not only did I lose a son, I lost a dear friend,” said Tracy Martin, Trayvon’s father. “He’ll be sadly missed and I made a promise that I won’t stop until justice is brought for my son.”

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/03/12/family-of-miami-teen-killed-in-sanford-demand-answers/

 

[Rob774]

Hello, i'm new, first post. I would not be surprised if first degree murder gets tossed at this guy once they seriously bring him in. To me to observe, follow him, get out your car and approach, all screams premeditation to me. If he doesn't do A... then B does not happen. He had time to think about his actions first.

Similiar to that pharmacy owner that got robbed. He was in the right to shoot the would be robbers. Once he shot the kid and the kid lay dying on the floor, he did not have the right to execute him while he lay face down. They found that guy guilty of 1st degree murder.

 

[angelmom]

Hello, i'm new, first post. I would not be surprised if first degree murder gets tossed at this guy once they seriously bring him in. To me to observe, follow him, get out your car and approach, all screams premeditation to me. If he doesn't do A... then B does not happen. He had time to think about his actions first.

Similiar to that pharmacy owner that got robbed. He was in the right to shoot the would be robbers. Once he shot the kid and the kid lay dying on the floor, he did not have the right to execute him while he lay face down. They found that guy guilty of 1st degree murder.

Welcome, Rob. I agree with you that GZ's actions completely set this CRIME into motion. I really hope he does not get away with murder.

 

[tlcya]

:welcome: Rob774

 

[Rob774]

Welcome, Rob. I agree with you that GZ's actions completely set this CRIME into motion. I really hope he does not get away with murder.

Thanks.

Do you think GZ is somehow connected? Like his family are connected politically or something. You have the earlier arrest of his thrown out, and now you have this??? Something's shady with the fact that this guy seems untouchable.

And why did he dissapear, if he really thinks his actions are just? This is 2012, this is the type of stuff folks got away with pre-civil rights era. I mean, i don't have a criminal record either just started ready to get my masters in criminal justice, does that mean i can go home outside now, pick a fight with a stranger, kill him and scream self defense... they'll just have to take my word for it if there are no witnesses.

 

[Rob774]

:welcome: Rob774

Thanks Tlcox, i'm one of those folks that have been in the background for awhile, and finally joined up.

 

[JeannaT]

Hello, i'm new, first post. I would not be surprised if first degree murder gets tossed at this guy once they seriously bring him in. To me to observe, follow him, get out your car and approach, all screams premeditation to me. If he doesn't do A... then B does not happen. He had time to think about his actions first.

Similiar to that pharmacy owner that got robbed. He was in the right to shoot the would be robbers. Once he shot the kid and the kid lay dying on the floor, he did not have the right to execute him while he lay face down. They found that guy guilty of 1st degree murder.

Welcome Rob!

I'm not thinking this was premeditated. It's not clear he would have been this bold if he didn't have a gun to back him up, but due to the rules against posting rumors here <modsnip>.

Due to the sunshine laws, I think this will all be much clearer soon.

 

[JeannaT]

LE to hold press conference at 4 p.m. today - that's in about an hour and 15 minutes from now for those in different times zones.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...martin-shooting-case-20120312,0,3967780.story

 

[tlcya]

I think we are about to get at least some of our questions answered. Thanks for the heads up Jeanna, wilol try to pop in for an update.

 

[LolaMoon08]

Does anyone know if the fiance of Tray's dad is black or white? I do have a valid reason for asking this, but I don't want to speculate without knowing for sure?

 

[JeannaT]

Does anyone know if the fiance of Tray's dad is black or white? I do have a valid reason for asking this, but I don't want to speculate without knowing for sure?

I think the fiance was the woman at the first press conference with the glasses standing in the background with her arm around Trayvon's brother. She is either light skinned black or mixed race.

 

[LolaMoon08]

I think the fiance was the woman at the first press conference with the glasses standing in the background with her arm around Travon's brother. She is either light skinned black or mixed race.

Okay, thanks. I was going to say that I know that some people still feel very strongly against interracial dating and was wondering if Zimmerman was one of those people and kept an extra eye out on their house/street/whatever?

I'm ready for this news conference and I am really ready to hear the 911 tape. I want some answers!

 

[katydid23]

Am watching a story on CNN right now about this. The newsreporter said that he talked with the Police Captain abojut the 911 calls, and the captain said that the 911 tape 'seemed to back up Zimmerman's story that he felt threatened.' Apparently there is a loud verbal exchange between them before the shot is fired.

 

[LolaMoon08]

Am watching a story on CNN right now about this. The newsreporter said that he talked with the Police Captain abojut the 911 calls, and the captain said that the 911 tape 'seemed to back up Zimmerman's story that he felt threatened.' Apparently there is a loud verbal exchange between them before the shot is fired.

Let us hear the 911 tape and let us decide what is justified and what is not justified!

 

[Velouria]

Listening to the Sanford Police presser now. Whole lot of nothing, IMO. Basically saying they're planning to finish the investigation by the end of the day and will forward it to the State's Atty. (We already knew that.) Lots of mentions of how fair and impartial the Sanford Police are.

Stated that since Zimmerman has asserted self defense, they have to have probable cause to dispute his claim.

I'm beginning to understand how FCA is walking around free today.

 

[No Stone Unturned]

At first I was outraged. This seemed a case where the young man was singled out for his race and shot down for being "suspicious."

Then reports came that police thought the killing was justified and the shooter only shot in self-defense.

I placed myself on the fence until more details came out.

Then reports surfaced that GZ does have a prior record of a felony (attacking police). Now I am back to thinking this was not self-defense!

 

[LolaMoon08]

Sounds to me like we're never going to know exactly what happened because Zimmerman was the only one who can say what happened and he is claiming self defense. It appears that the eye witnesses only witnessed what happened after initial contact was made, which appears to be Tray getting the better of the person who was following/harrassing him.

It also appears that Zimmerman claimed to LE that he had a sqeaky clean record and LE simply believed him without even checking until later on... after they had already told Tray's father that he had no previous record.

Something stinks to high heaven here. Way too much deflection. Way too much secrecy. 911 tapes are never withheld like this!

 

[angelmom]

I'm just going to go ahead and say that if Tray had been a blonde girl, we would be applauding her for how hard she fought against the creepy guy following her in the neighborhood.