FL - 17-yo Boy Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain

[SuziQ]

I saw his picture in the video attached to the article. HTH.

 

[JeannaT]

I found the picture that they ran on the website in another article. It's a mugshot from his earlier arrest when he was about 22. He looks older to me than that, but guess not.

http://opnateye.com/?p=319

 

[angelmom]

I found the picture that they ran on the website in another article. It's a mugshot from his earlier arrest when he was about 22. He looks older to me than that, but guess not.

http://opnateye.com/?p=319

Neither of the photos in this article help support GZ's side of the story. Just sayin' if we're judging people by their appearance. :angel:

 

[JeannaT]

This news report shows a route from the convenience store to the apartment complex, starting just after 1:00 into the video:
http://news.yahoo.com/family-florida-boy-killed-neighborhood-watch-seeks-arrest-044537742.html

Looking at Google Maps, on Rinehart Road directly in front of the Sam's Club there is a 7-Eleven. It is about a mile from there to the apartment complex. It is not a typical convenience store but in a strip mall. The logo is on a round tower on the corner of the building.

Thanks for finding that.

That distance in the dark in the cold rain? For a can of iced tea? For real?

I am more curious than ever what it was that George Z saw that made him suspicious.

 

[angelmom]

Thanks for finding that.

That distance in the dark in the cold rain? For a can of iced tea? For real?

I am more curious than ever what it was that George Z saw that made him suspicious.

I don't know about dark and rainy. I know one article referred to a "light drizzle" but weather underground shows 0" precipitation in Sanford that day.

http://www.wunderground.com/history...ty=Sanford&req_state=FL&req_statename=Florida

Also, at 7 pm the sun had only set in the last half hour and it was still not technically "dark."

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astronomy.html?n=867&month=2&year=2012&obj=sun&afl=-13&day=1

I have a 15yo and a 17yo son, and neither of them would bat an eye at walking up to the convenience store around that time of night, even in a very light drizzle, for a Coke and candy. A mile to them is nothing - less than 10 minutes. ETA: especially if they had had several hours/days of "family time" and wanted a little privacy to make a phone call.

 

[JeannaT]

I don't know about dark and rainy. I know one article referred to a "light drizzle" but weather underground shows 0" precipitation in Sanford that day.

http://www.wunderground.com/history...ty=Sanford&req_state=FL&req_statename=Florida

Also, at 7 pm the sun had only set in the last half hour and it was still not technically "dark."

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astronomy.html?n=867&month=2&year=2012&obj=sun&afl=-13&day=1

I have a 15yo and a 17yo son, and neither of them would bat an eye at walking up to the convenience store around that time of night, even in a very light drizzle, for a Coke and candy. A mile to them is nothing - less than 10 minutes. ETA: especially if they had had several hours/days of "family time" and wanted a little privacy to make a phone call.

I guess my kids don't like ice tea that much. ;D I can totally see one of them going out for a walk to have a phone chat with a girlfriend, though. They often leave the house for a phone call, and there's nothing sinister about that. I'm just noting, that my kids wouldn't put that much effort into getting a can of tea if that's the sole purpose of the errand.

It was the lawyer (Crump I think) who said Tayvon was bundled up in a hoodie because it was cold and raining and he was trying to stay dry.

 

[JeannaT]

Activists planning a protest outside Sanford Police department at 1 p.m. today.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...otest-trayvon-martin-20120310,0,5436098.story

 

[daisy7]

This news report shows a route from the convenience store to the apartment complex, starting just after 1:00 into the video:
http://news.yahoo.com/family-florida-boy-killed-neighborhood-watch-seeks-arrest-044537742.html

Looking at Google Maps, on Rinehart Road directly in front of the Sam's Club there is a 7-Eleven. It is about a mile from there to the apartment complex. It is not a typical convenience store but in a strip mall. The logo is on a round tower on the corner of the building.

TY for posting this. The vid. said that 2 mins. after Zimmerman called 911, 6 neighbors called to report a fight and a gunshot. 2 minutes??!!

And, it looks like this took place on a sidewalk that was not accessible to a car. So, Zimmerman must have gotten out of his car and walk up the path to go confront Trayvon.

IMO, Zimmerman is clearly the aggressor in this horrible tragedy and I don't understand why he hasn't been arrested.

 

[daisy7]

Zimmerman gave police a statement that he stepped out of his car and he and Martin fought. He said he was “yelling for someone to help, but no one would help me.”

Zimmerman had a bloody nose, wet grass stains on his red jacket and was bleeding head wound. Martin was pronounced dead at 7:30 p.m.

“We don’t know what led up to that fight,’’ Lee said.

On the night of the shooting, Zimmerman was initially handcuffed, placed in the back of a squad car and later released, but not before police confiscated his gun.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/08/2684419/shooting-mystery-miami-dade-teen.html#storylink=cpy

Snipped and BBM. Thank goodness they took his gun. I don't understand why they haven't released the 911 calls, yet. The "ongoing investigation" reason doesn't make sense with the Sunshine laws.

 

[daisy7]

Activists planning a protest outside Sanford Police department at 1 p.m. today.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...otest-trayvon-martin-20120310,0,5436098.story

The article says Zimmerman called the non-emergency number, and I don't know if they record those calls. But, if he thought Trayvon was such a threat, why didn't he call 911?

 

[jjenny]

The article says Zimmerman called the non-emergency number, and I don't know if they record those calls. But, if he thought Trayvon was such a threat, why didn't he call 911?

I am pretty sure they got the recording, they just haven't released it to the public.

 

[JeannaT]

The article says Zimmerman called the non-emergency number, and I don't know if they record those calls. But, if he thought Trayvon was such a threat, why didn't he call 911?

They have recordings of others who called 911, and apparently you can hear the shots on some of them. I don't know about the 311 call, but the officer sounded like he had heard it.

 

[mrsu]

I guess my kids don't like ice tea that much. ;D I can totally see one of them going out for a walk to have a phone chat with a girlfriend, though. They often leave the house for a phone call, and there's nothing sinister about that. I'm just noting, that my kids wouldn't put that much effort into getting a can of tea if that's the sole purpose of the errand.

It was the lawyer (Crump I think) who said Tayvon was bundled up in a hoodie because it was cold and raining and he was trying to stay dry.

I thought he went to the convenience store to get his brother some Skittles? Maybe he grabbed some tea too.

 

[angelmom]

I don't understand why they haven't released the 911 calls, yet. The "ongoing investigation" reason doesn't make sense with the Sunshine laws.

Hey, good point. We definitely heard Casey/Cindy's 911 calls when it was still ongoing.

 

[nao]

JMO Tayvon could of been a thugerish looking white or hispanic or any race, basicly any swaggering teen - GZ would wanna play the same role.
GZ did not see Trayvon as a threat, just some kid he did'nt like the look of.GZ figured he could give the kid a good talking 'down' to and then look all cool and in control when the real cops got there.
I think it would be better to define the roles of these volenteer wanna be cops than turn it into a race thing.
I also think GZ should be in jail ----that he is not, i find disrespectful.

 

[JeannaT]

Activists planning a protest outside Sanford Police department at 1 p.m. today.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...otest-trayvon-martin-20120310,0,5436098.story

Article has been updated. Four people attended the protest in front of the police department.

 

[AnaTeresa]

Article has been updated. Four people attended the protest in front of the police department.

Are you kidding - only four!? How are people not bothered by this?

 

[JeannaT]

Are you kidding - only four!? How are people not bothered by this?

I don't know either, Ana, except maybe there would have been more of an outpouring if it weren't the new Black Panthers. There were 1000 at his funeral, it's not like no one cares, but maybe there was a fear of violence that kept people away from the protest.

Either way it sounds like the investigation will be wrapped up this week and the 911 calls released, which was one of the things the protest was about.

 

[JeannaT]

This article posted today says two dozen demonstrators, not four, were at the rally yesterday.

Not much else new.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/11/2688369/family-in-neighborhood-watch-death.html

 

[daisy7]

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/man-who-shot-killed-teen-sanford-neighborhood-has-/nLPgL/

includes a video. article says he called to report a "suspicious black man." Is that how he actually worded it in the call?