FL - 17-yo Boy Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain

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http://www.masoncountydailynews.com...ing-probe-reveals-questionable-police-conduct

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A dispatcher told Zimmerman to wait for a police cruiser, and not leave his vehicle. But about a minute later, he left his car wearing a red sweatshirt and pursued Martin on foot between two rows of townhouses -- about 70 yards from where the teen was going.

Witnesses told ABC News a fist fight broke out and at one point Zimmerman, who outweighed Martin by more than 100 pounds, was on the ground and that Martin was on top. end Quote

So how did GZ introduce himself "hey stop i'm a pretend cop/ vigilante" ??
GZ a big guy, he wanted a confrontation- its inevitable if you chase someone down and they don't know what or who you are. I'd of run, and i'd be flipping out and fighting back, its survival instinct.

Teens wear hoodies, they swagger, they got attatude. I was a total yob at that age, and i'm white and female. I even vandalized a few few things, i grew up i got over it.
Trayvon did absolutly nothing wrong, GZ is a fool with a gun and there are plenty of those.
It is the way the police have handled it - i find unbelievable, disrespectful.

It was'nt a group of kids - just one kid with candy. And GZ could'nt even deal with a child without using his gun, GZ's pathetic.

I don't think this situation will end quietly, RIP Trayvon , you'll be remember by many.
 
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I am really angry over this case. It seems clear that the police are covering for Zimmerman. Why, I don't know. Trayvon did nothing wrong. Nothing at all. Now he is dead because some nutjob thought he was Mr. Cool. If there is no indictment in this case, it is going to cause quite an uproar. I think they know that by now.
 
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Trayvon Martin’s family deserves answers, and so does a community rightfully outraged in the aftermath of his killing.

How can the 17-year-old Miami teenager, who was simply walking back to the townhouse he was visiting in the central Florida town of Sanford, end up shot dead with no consequences for his killer?

As facts unravel — much too slowly in this tragic case garnering national attention for its racial profile and questionable self-defense allegation — everything is beginning to indicate that Martin and his family deserve compassion and justice.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/13/2692045/unarmed-teens-killing-in-sanford.html#storylink=cpy
 
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I think if it were almost in any state other than FL, GZ would have been charged. Let him use "self-defense" argument at trial. I think some of these "stand your ground" laws go to far. GZ was in his car, he didn't have to get out of it and go after anyone.
 
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Given the reports of alleged witness tampering and other "irregularities", I'm not sure how the SA is supposed to make a fair and accurate assessment of how to proceed with the case based on the SPD's investigation.

I think it's time the Feds were called in on this one.
 
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Rob774 said:
NAACP is now involved. I hate that it had to come to this.
http://sandrarose.com/2012/03/sharp...o-vigilante-shooting-death-of-trayvon-martin/

But they just didn't think this would go away.
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And is shouldn't just go away. I'm glad the NAACP is moving in on this. If a case ever warranted them getting involved, it is this one. It is everything this organization is about/should be about. An innocent kid is dead. The person who caused his death, for whatever reason, walks free? Something is just really wrong with this case? Police "correcting" a witnesses account of what she saw/heard? Who does that?

I think we all, no matter what our race, should stand up for Tray. If the police can treat Tray's family/case like this... they can do it to us too! I hate that it has to be about race, but really, it is? I think what we can do as a country, of all races, is stand with Tray's family in this.
 
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LolaMoon08 said:
And is shouldn't just go away. I'm glad the NAACP is moving in on this. If a case ever warranted them getting involved, it is this one. It is everything this organization is about/should be about. An innocent kid is dead. The person who caused his death, for whatever reason, walks free? Something is just really wrong with this case? Police "correcting" a witnesses account of what she saw/heard? Who does that?

I think we all, no matter what our race, should stand up for Tray. If the police can treat Tray's family/case like this... they can do it to us too! I hate that it has to be about race, but really, it is? I think what we can do as a country, of all races, is stand with Tray's family in this.
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You are totally right that it shouldn't go away, and that people of all races should stand with Tray's family. I think what Rob may have meant and what I felt when I read about Al Sharpton and the NAACP getting involved, is dismay that they are involved, that this is when things usually start to go downhill fast. Sharpton = publicity fest and NAACP usually = gross overreaction.

Now in this case, I don't think the outrage is an overreaction, but some people will equate Sharpton's history with this case and assume that it is an overreaction. Tray deserves better than that.

Quite frankly, Al Sharpton showing up in Sanford gives me the same feeling as Rush Limbaugh weighing in on the health care/birth control issue. I just want to say to them, "Thanks anyway, but please stop helping."

A 17yo boy is dead for no reason, and this shouldn't be turned into a circus. Unfortunately the clowns are on their way to town.
 
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LolaMoon and AngelMom are actually both right. I did mean that this should of been handled without outside pressure from any organization. In my regards to the NaccP, especially Sharpton, outisders, who were once sympathetic to a cause, often give the "rolls eyes" notion, once he gets involved. I'm black, and i know he doesnt speak for all black people, i just think that sometimes he gets into too many cases, thus losing a lot of his credibility. This is a case, where he's needed. There have been other cases, far less serious, where i don't think him, nor Jesse need to have been involved. But Zimmerman made this a race issue the moment he informed 911, There's a suspicious black..."

But back to the issue at hand, if the Pope himself has to get involved... i hope we get to the real facts of the case. Did Tray attack GZ? Was Tray the one screaming for help? Or was in indeed Zimmerman? Did the police pressure and steer witness testimoney? I think we are only at the start of this circus.
 
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Rob774 said:
NAACP is now involved. I hate that it had to come to this.
http://sandrarose.com/2012/03/sharp...o-vigilante-shooting-death-of-trayvon-martin/

But they just didn't think this would go away.
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This news is bittersweet to me. IMO this is definitely an NAACP cause. I just feel like, in the past, NAACP has gotten involved in cases that didn't really warrant their involvement IMO. And, there is always the 'circus' atmosphere that seems to follow.

That being said, I am so angered by this case that I welcome ANY help that will get to the truth.

Godspeed to the NAACP. Justice for Trayvon and the people who loved him, is all I want.
 
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http://www.wftv.com/news/news/witness-sanford-police-blew-us-teen-slaying/nLSqk/

Witness: Sanford police "Blew us off" in teen slaying

However, witness Mary Cutcher said she knew the truth. Cutcher said police only took a two or three sentence statement from her, but it took about 30 minutes to tell WFTV the story.

"The cries stopped as soon as the gun went off, so I know it was the little boy," Cutcher said.
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According to a partial police report, Cutcher is one of six witnesses that Sanford police took a statement from.

Cutcher said it was short, and police never questioned her in detail until after she repeatedly reached out to them.

"Blew us off, and I called him back again and I said, "I know this was not self-defense. There was no punching, no hitting going on at the time, no wrestling,'" Cutcher said.

Cutcher said she believes whatever confrontation there was, it ended before they got to her backyard.

She also said she believes Zimmerman continued to chase Martin as he tried to get home.
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He stalked, hunted, confronted, assaulted and executed this child. For what reason??? Epidermal hue color? Serioiusly, in 2012? An 86 YO, i can believe, cause he may have ole school mentality. An educated 26 YO, you'd think if he if had racists thoughts, it wouldn't manifest into actions.

Like I said when the first day i posted here... 1st Degree Murder.
 
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jjenny said:
I think if it were almost in any state other than FL, GZ would have been charged. Let him use "self-defense" argument at trial. I think some of these "stand your ground" laws go to far. GZ was in his car, he didn't have to get out of it and go after anyone.
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While I don't agree with many of the FL laws about guns, I think the issue is with the Sanford PD and not our state laws. JMO.
 
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