FL - Abraham Shakespeare, 42, lottery winner, Polk County, 7 April 2009 #6

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  • #361
I think it is better to post just facts.

Like I said, I have far more stuff/other fact with doc's backing up, that I've inadvertantly ran upon, but it is not something I can post here... it goes way deep... and I need to leave it go.

Back to the case at hand, please.
 
  • #362
Post some links to your proof.

No, this stuff doesn't pertain to this case thank you. I apologize for bumping up/expanding on an earlier post.

Please let it go, thanks.
 
  • #363
Just show me some proof, a specific case, where it was done. So far, all I'm seeing is a bunch of death certificates with a bunch of different people who have died and their death certs being filed for legitimate legal reasons. If you say someone is using their name (identity theft), can you show me where this was done? Post some links to your proof.

im sorry if you havent seen proof, its been posted in all these threads, you could go back if your concerned. or search the records.

we have
shar anthony krasniqi
shar anthony
shar krasniqi
anthony krasniqi

dorice emma donegan
dorice emma moore
dee moore
dee donegan
deedee moore
dee dee moore
deedee donegan
dee dee donegan
dorice donegan moore

shakespeare
shakespear

i could go on.

your statement about dates showing records filed dates is correct and maybe iminuru forgot that. these people do file docs with changes to their names though.
 
  • #364
Does my lame explaination help... I don't mean these guys, the named individuals, had anything to do with anything here... but someone else is using names on papers... these names here are only a small drop in the bucket of names used to do "paperwork" by someone else... and yes it is part of a huge elaborate scam... it's a paper scam scheme to fraud and avoid... sorry I dont mean to throw ya's off with this... but from what I looking at, it is real and its been going on far back into the 90's as well...all the "names" used, not the actual people... just some person is very very greedy.. one of the things that it does, is shuffle papers such as properties... so to avoid tax etc...

It goes far back... way before AS...

I'll leave it go.

If you are going to accuse someone of doing this, where is your proof? You say it's a huge scam, someone else is using their names, but just show me cases of this happening? I am assuming you are using public records where someone has used someone elses names and you have named alot of people above with their death certificates. Prove to me that those were more than legitimate legal transactions.
 
  • #365
im sorry if you havent seen proof, its been posted in all these threads, you could go back if your concerned. or search the records.

we have
shar anthony krasniqi
shar anthony
shar krasniqi
anthony krasniqi

dorice emma donegan
dorice emma moore
dee moore
dee donegan
deedee moore
dee dee moore
deedee donegan
dee dee donegan
dorice donegan moore

shakespeare
shakespear

i could go on.

your statement about dates showing records filed dates is correct and maybe iminuru forgot that. these people do file docs with changes to their names though.

Something I can agree with is the names you have listed above. Dorice Emma Donegan married James Moore and became Dorice Emma Moore or Dorice Donegan Moore. Then for whatever reason, she started using the name Dee Dee Moore. Those there have been plenty of proof on.

I have seen records of shar anthony krasniqi using the names you have listed above.

I have seen Abraham using the name Shakespeare and Shakespear. I have even seen records of him using Lee Shakespeare.

We are on the same page with those names. But I have not seen any cases of the names on these death certificates being used to transfer documents illegally. Have you? If so, I would like to see them. I have been reading the posts since the beginning.
 
  • #366
i could go on.

Yes, we could wanttohelp, but I suggest we leave it here... it does go much further/deeper... and I do have access to too many doc's that show this... both public rec and not... but I think we've made our point. Sorry to have brought your post up, I didn't know it would create a problem.. that's the last thing that we want.

Anything more on the POA?
 
  • #367
I want to make myself so crystal clear that you will never ever doubt where I stand on this issue again.

It is against our Terms of Service to accuse innocent people who are not charged or even considered a suspect in a crime of illegal activities.

If you have proof of a conspiracy then by all means let's hear it. BUT IF YOU DO NOT THEN DO NOT POST ABOUT IT.

This is very easy to understand. It really is.

For some reason some posters feel the need to keep bringing up theories and accusations that have no basis. I won't have it. I am not going to nip this in the bud again. Next time there will be life long bannings.

Let me express to you once again that I battle daily the assumption that Internet True Crime Discussion forums are made up of bored housewives and conspiracy nuts. Unfortunately Websleuths is always lumped into this general assumption.

When we post wild accusations and accuse innocent people of things where there is no proof then we become what we all fight so desperately to prove we are not. We look unstable, and we lose credibility.

You are all better than that. You were so impressive with your sleuthing you even got the attention of the investigator in this case. It was all so good until a few went off the deep end and were posting things so preposterous it was embarrassing. That made us all look bad.

Step back and STOP. If you can't come to the board and post without doing the things I have just discussed then Websleuths is not for you. There are plenty of forums which allow you to post whatever you want. I would suggest one of those would be better suited for you.

I do apologize for coming down so hard but I'm tired of trying of saying the same thing over and over.

You all are so great when you stick to the basics and stick to the truth. There is no better sleuthers than the posters here. I believe that with my heart and soul. It's been proven over and over. You are fantastic. Please let's not have to talk about this again OK?

Tricia
 
  • #368
POTWIN, KIMBERLY L
DOB 07-1970

Maiden name: Geiger
Other last names through marriages: Rusinek and Ferguson

Accurate Professional Staffing, LLC
4645 Wisteria Drive
Zephyrhills, FL 33542

Provide staffing for Hospitals, Nursing Homes and Assisted Living Facilities

4645 Wisteria DRIVE
property in the name of Jeffrey Potwin

Detail by Officer/Registered Agent Name
Florida Limited Liability Company
ACCURATE PROFESSIONAL STAFFING, LLC

Filing Information
Document Number L06000005587
FEI/EIN Number N/A
Date Filed 01/17/2006 - (Reg agent then was D Moore)
State FL
Status INACTIVE
Effective Date 01/13/2006
Last Event ADMIN DISSOLUTION FOR ANNUAL REPORT
Event Date Filed 09/25/2009
Event Effective Date NONE

Principal Address
4645 WISTERIA DR.
ZEPHYRHILLS FL 33542
Changed 08/17/2009
Mailing Address
4645 WISTERIA DR.
ZEPHYRHILLS FL 33542
Changed 08/17/2009
Registered Agent Name & Address
POTWIN, KIMBERLY

4645 WISTERIA DRIVE
ZEPHYRHILLS FL 33542 US
Name Changed: 05/01/2008
Address Changed: 05/01/2008
Manager/Member Detail
Name & Address
Title MGR
POTWIN, KIMBERLY
26444 PHEASANT RUN
WESLEY CHAPEL FL 33544
Annual Reports
Report Year Filed Date
2007 01/29/2007
2008 05/01/2008

08/18/2009 -- ADDRESS CHANGE

9/25/09 LLC is dissolved (OR SOLD???)
http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet...s_filing_type="

FILED: 01/17/2006
3447 South Forbes Rd
Dover, FL 33527
PO Box 433
Sydney, FL 33857
Reg Agent- D Moore

FILED: 01/29/2007
Address changed to
4645 Wisteria Drive
Zephyrhills, FL
Reg Agent- Potwin, Kim

FILED: 05/1/2008
Name change:
From Potwin, Kim
To Potwin, Kimberly

Address change to:
26444 Pheasant Run
Wesley Chapel, FL 33544

FILED: Last Event ADMIN DISSOLUTION FOR ANNUAL REPORT
Event Date Filed 09/25/2009



Kimberly Potwin stated this company belonged to her and that Dee Dee Moore was only suppose to help her start her business. Jeff Potwin and his wife, Kimberly, say Moore stole $60,000 from them for this business.

Records show it was put in Potwin's name 01/29/2007.


01-26-2010, 08:57 PM
potwin
Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Florida
Posts: 7

"I sold the company about a year ago. She was not in a wheelchair. She did have a cane.
She never had a lawyer respond in the case between us. She would call herself or just not respond."

And:
"I tried to sue but she was costing me more money. My attorney would sent DD documents and she would call him saying she would reply and nothing. She was costing me more money. My attorney told me to try to get her criminally. I had filed a police report previously with the Zephyrhills PD. She did the same thing with them. She got Olga and another lady that was living with her to say she sold me the company. When I started the company all there was was a name. The states attorney dropped the case do to lack of evidence."

And:
01-26-2010, 07:37 PM
potwin

"I was also taken in my DD. Big mistake."
 
  • #369
http://ori2.polk-county.net/wb_or1/details.asp?doc_id=7410156&file_num=2010012187&doc_status=V
1/25/2010 - Notice of Foreclosure filed on property owned by Gregory Barnard Massey and Shakespeare & Associates by Rickey Cotton.
http://ori2.polk-county.net/wb_or1/details.asp?doc_id=7275246&file_num=2009110587&doc_status=V
10/29/07 - Shakespeare and Associates draw up a balloon mortgage for $133,947.88 with Massey as the mortgagor and with total balance due due 12/1/08. However, they Shakespeare & Associate's do not file that mortgage until 6/15/09.
http://ori2.polk-county.net/wb_or1/details.asp?doc_id=6188376&file_num=2008065063&doc_status=V
3/14/08 - Rickey Cotton then gave Greg Massey a balloon mortgage on the same property for $35,812.30 on 3/14/08 and filed it 4/15/08. Rickey Cotton is now seeking to foreclose on that property.
 
  • #370
Iminuru-
Re: Your post #354 above...

I've not seen anything to support Darlene Spencer and Anton "Tony" J Geiger being married to each other. Her daughter and his son are/were married though... the Geiger man that just passed away.

Your reference to the Alzheimer's asso though... that caught my eye too, and for the same reason it caught yours. I think there is going to be another tie-in with the parties involved. I mentioned it back in December... lemme go look for it.

ETA:
Found it. Not sure how this is going to carry over.

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL- missing lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare, last seen April 2009 #3


Ok- that didn't work like I wanted it to... here's what the post says:
......
Here's what has me going on the Darlene Lemon Spencer tie-in.

Iminuru posted a link to an article:
http://www.theledger.com/article/20050922/NEWS/509220379

lbminnesota's resulting post tied Attorneys Title Center (Jodi Outlaw Mcclanahan) in with Samuda & Birdsong in Pembroke Pines, FL.

There are some other companies listed under Birdsong, among them LEMON AID INC. I'm wondering if the Lemon name is connected somehow.

If so, it would tie Shar in too if Darlene is grandma.

.....

Link to thread.

This was in the earlier sleuthing stages and I think there is a whole lot more to this story.

Abraham may not have been a direct target of everyone we've mentioned or explored, but he was definitely a victim of "trickle down" fraud and greed, imo.
 
  • #371
Another couple things...

The Masseys on the Spencer/Geiger FB friends don't have any relationship to Greg Massey imo.

Also, just thought I'd mention that Brian of Brian and Bullshark (myspace) died a few years ago. I've got his name and year of death somewhere if needed.
 
  • #372
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/feb/13/130033/na-woman-accused-in-slaying-coveted-luxurious-life/

Woman accused in slaying coveted luxurious lifestyle

By HOWARD ALTMAN and RAY REYES

[email protected] [email protected]

Published: February 13, 2010

Updated: 02/13/2010 12:33 am

*Snips*

PLANT CITY - She grew up in the backwoods of the Winter Strawberry Capital of the World, dreaming of things much finer than her parents' clunky cars and modest wood-frame house.

Dorice "Dee Dee" Moore liked nice clothes. She liked making money. So she worked hard to get luxuries she coveted, family members say.
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The Donegans moved to their rural home on Turkey Creek Road when Moore was 7. After she enrolled at Plant City High School, Moore became more aware of her humble upbringing, her mother said.

"When we would drop her off at her friends' houses, she would make us park a block away," Donegan said, smiling at the memory. "She was embarrassed by our cars. We didn't have much money."
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Around this time, Donegan said, her daughter started dating James Moore, who lived a few miles away on South Forbes Road. The two married on May 1, 1992, in Plant City. The couple divorced last June.

Donegan won't say much about James Moore, only that once her daughter married him, the family didn't see much of her.
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James Moore could not be reached for comment. His mother, Frances Moore, said the family is still in shock over Dee Dee Moore's arrest.

"She was in our family for 16 years," Frances Moore said. "Our family is upside down. It is mind-boggling."
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Dee Dee Moore first became acquainted with jails and the court system 11 years ago.

In 1999, she was arrested in Polk County for shoplifting; adjudication was withheld in the case.

In 2001, Moore was arrested for writing a worthless check to the Hillsborough County Tax Collector's Office for $418.60. She was sentenced to 12 months probation, paid $498.60 in restitution and $100 in court costs, records show.

In June of that year her crimes grew more elaborate. So did her lies.
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Moore became a part of Shakespeare's life in 2007, when she told him she wanted to write a book about him, investigators said. She eventually became something of a financial adviser to Shakespeare, who won an estimated $30 million Florida Lottery jackpot in late 2006.
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Donegan said her family is devastated. Moore's 15-year-old son, R.J., is reeling over his mother's arrest, Donegan said.

Donegan recently took R.J. to Orient Road Jail, where Moore is being held on $1 million bail after she was booked Feb. 2 on a charge of accessory after the fact to first-degree murder.

During the visit, Moore told her son and mother that she didn't kill Shakespeare, Donegan said. Moore said she covered up the slaying because the real killers are threatening her son. Moore told her mother that if law enforcement agrees to protect R.J., she will tell investigators who killed Shakespeare.
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More at link
 
  • #373
KP, are you related to Robert York Geiger? I believe I read in an earlier post your former name was Geiger.

bumping to current page
 
  • #374
ACandyRose- not sure if you have this or not yet...
Search Warrant 2/5/10 for 9340 Red Hawk Bend Drive

Deputies searched for "all business and personal financial records... related to Abraham Shakespeare, Dorice (DeeDee) Moore, Shar Anthony Krasniqi (Moore's boyfriend), Howard Stitzel, Judith Haggins, Shakespeare & Associates LLC, Abraham Shakespeare LLC, American Medical Professionals LLC, ASTAT and Supplies LLC, American Medical Professionals PEO, Inc."

Also on the list of property to be searched for:

Firearms, ammunitions or any instruments believed to be from a firearm.

All electronic data processing and storage devices, computers and computer systems.

Currency, negotiable instruments, stock certificates, car titles, documents relating to the sale or purchase of automobiles, documents relating to the sale or purchase of a back-hoe, letters or drafts thereof relating to Abraham Shakespeare, cell phones, phone billing/payment records, printed text messages.
 

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  • #375
Not sure if it's been posted yet or not, but Abraham's house was listed for sale for $898,000. It has been "withdrawn" from the market, but it was active in January according to google cache.

Listing.
 
  • #376
Thank you blue mermaid... Glad you picked up on that part with Anton.. I'll look and see if I can find anything to support that. Actually, I was (and will now) going put a note by that part, in post #354, in reference to it being questionable. I did notice that he is about the right age... but I want to be absolutely sure of the connection nonetheless.

ETA: In post #354: Anton J Geiger = husband. I want it to note that this is an "IMO" thing... and still looking for verification.

I agree, in the Alzheimer's coming up like that... also something I looking further into.

The Lemon Aid Inc has me curious too. I'm going to do more research on that and the other parties, and see what's out there.

Yes, "Abraham may not have been a direct target of everyone we've mentioned or explored, but he was definitely a victim of "trickle down" fraud and greed, imo"... though not direct, definately in the chain of events leading up to where we are today.

Thank you for your input! :)


Iminuru-
Re: Your post #354 above...

I've not seen anything to support Darlene Spencer and Anton "Tony" J Geiger being married to each other. Her daughter and his son are/were married though... the Geiger man that just passed away.

Your reference to the Alzheimer's asso though... that caught my eye too, and for the same reason it caught yours. I think there is going to be another tie-in with the parties involved. I mentioned it back in December... lemme go look for it.

ETA:
Found it. Not sure how this is going to carry over.

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL- missing lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare, last seen April 2009 #3


Ok- that didn't work like I wanted it to... here's what the post says:
......
Here's what has me going on the Darlene Lemon Spencer tie-in.

Iminuru posted a link to an article:
http://www.theledger.com/article/20050922/NEWS/509220379

lbminnesota's resulting post tied Attorneys Title Center (Jodi Outlaw Mcclanahan) in with Samuda & Birdsong in Pembroke Pines, FL.

There are some other companies listed under Birdsong, among them LEMON AID INC. I'm wondering if the Lemon name is connected somehow.

If so, it would tie Shar in too if Darlene is grandma.

.....

Link to thread.

This was in the earlier sleuthing stages and I think there is a whole lot more to this story.

Abraham may not have been a direct target of everyone we've mentioned or explored, but he was definitely a victim of "trickle down" fraud and greed, imo.
 
  • #377
Another couple things...

The Masseys on the Spencer/Geiger FB friends don't have any relationship to Greg Massey imo.

Also, just thought I'd mention that Brian of Brian and Bullshark (myspace) died a few years ago. I've got his name and year of death somewhere if needed.

I agree, IMO a well, they aren't in relation to Gregory Massey... GM, who btw has changing middle initials within records and other dealings.

Thanks for pointing this out, not sure if I made a note of the name probably not connected to GM. I'll check and see, making note of this within that post.

:)

ETA: In reference to names "Massey", in Post #354, I wanted to edit/add notation that the names within section:"Darlene F Spencer's Facebook/Some Friends listed: Anton J Geiger, Ja Krasniqi, Danielle Krasniqi, Tricia Paulson, Debbie Cassidy Massey, Paul Massey, Debbie Spencer Geiger..." -- These Massey look to have no relation to Gregory (M,B) Massey. Placing this note here, as I couldn't edit/add to that post.
 
  • #378
I agree, IMO a well, they aren't in relation to Gregory Massey... GM, who btw has changing middle initials within records and other dealings.

Thanks for pointing this out, not sure if I made a note of the name probably not connected to GM. I'll check and see, making note of this within that post.

:)

ETA: In reference to names "Massey", in Post #354, I wanted to edit/add notation that the names within section:"Darlene F Spencer's Facebook/Some Friends listed: Anton J Geiger, Ja Krasniqi, Danielle Krasniqi, Tricia Paulson, Debbie Cassidy Massey, Paul Massey, Debbie Spencer Geiger..." -- These Massey look to have no relation to Gregory (M,B) Massey. Placing this note here, as I couldn't edit/add to that post.

I'm not pickin' on ya! : ) You've done a great job here- there is SO much to keep up with it's easy to get confused. Or, I guess I should say it's easy for me to get confused! lol

I was just cruisin' through the posts of the last couple of days and didn't want anybody to make the wrong assumption and take off with it.
 
  • #379
Also, just thought I'd mention that Brian of Brian and Bullshark (myspace) died a few years ago. I've got his name and year of death somewhere if needed.
(snip)

Sorry, I left something out again... I usually try to make sure I keep responses/info within a post, for less posting's to piece together when reading the stuff... so as not to have lots of small posts referring/responding to one LOL

From Post #356/Shar Anthony Krasniqi/myspace:

Last Login: 1/10/2010 (Wondering by who?)

Do ya think Shar logged in?

But, then again, it's not unusual for other people to have log information... :waitasec:

In any case, I do hope it was Shar... would help account for his whereabouts... I think... maybe... not sure... just wish there was some kind of more reliable sign of where he really is... can't help but think about that other slab of cement!

:eek:
 
  • #380
I'm not pickin' on ya! : ) You've done a great job here- there is SO much to keep up with it's easy to get confused. Or, I guess I should say it's easy for me to get confused! lol

I was just cruisin' through the posts of the last couple of days and didn't want anybody to make the wrong assumption and take off with it.

You're great... I know you're not picking on me! :)

Please, anytime you see where I need to make corrections/notations/etc... anything... let me know like this!

Yep... very confusing stuff... to say the least! I don't know about a great job... but I do hope that i make useful contributions... at least sometimes.

Thank you! :)
 
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