GUILTY FL - Abraham Shakespeare, 42, lottery winner, Polk County, 7 April 2009 #8

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  • #981
This recorded call is important, hope the jurors are listening good, because at the point of the call, LE hasn't found that Abraham was murdered (only missing), yet here Dee Dee is talking about the person named "Ronald" who is the same person she accused later of killing Abraham.
 
  • #982
Going on break - Greg Smith still on stand and next is the 1/6/2012 Tape of Greg Smith and Dorice at Target where they went to purchase phones - one for Judy Hagan and one for Dorice, when they come back from break.
 
  • #983
Listening in while I get ready for work! :earson: Looks like I made it in time for recess. :lol:
 
  • #984
Going to the Tampa Courthouse:
The regular entrance to the Courthouse is in the 800 block of Twigg Street - that is where civilians must enter. You go through a metal detector. You take the elevator or escalator to the second floor where you walk across the overpass that goes over Twigg St to a building on the opposite side of Twigg St. You can then take the elevator there to the 5th floor and I believe the Courtroom was 53A.
In the building you first enter, when you get to the second floor, there is a cafeteria with a pretty good egg salad and the other cooked food they have smelled good. They also sell used books off a cart for $1 each.
When they go on lunchbreak, all spectators leave and they lock you out until a few minutes before the trial resumes. I thought they would make spectators sit in their seats until breaks, but you could quietly enter and leave the Courtroom.
Twiggs St. Parking Garage is at 900 Twiggs Street, it is city run and costs $7 for anything 5 hours or more and you can pay with a Visa or Mastercard.
Downtown Tampa, there are many restaurants within walking distance. I saw a chicken jerk restaurant just down the way and if I go back I'm going to try it.
If you are coming in from Lakeland, you can mapquest it and it will send you first choice via Interstate 4, but when I left I found it is right on State Road 60. You come in around the Port after Brandon and the water and ships are on your left and Twiggs is at a light and only goes to the right. It is just a couple blocks up from there and it is easier than driving through downtown from Interstate 4. You can also take the downtown expressway as that goes right by there as well if you don't mind paying the toll.
 
  • #985
If I were in FL, I'd be at that trial for a couple of days to get a sense of the atmosphere and see the Cast of Characters in person.

That last couple of calls were interesting for their content along with Dee Dee's demeanor. In the first call, she is "crying" about HER situation to impress Smith with her sincerity. I hope that the jury picked up on it because of her "crying" jags in the courtroom.

In the second call, I sensed that she was jubilant about Smith's report and bad-mouthing just about everybody else.

I am now seeing why LE had no problem "turning" Dee Dee's "tools." I'm sure they were all trying to cooperate with her in part to learn where Abraham was and if he was alive.

On learning from LE what was going on, their loyalty was not to Dee Dee, but to their friend.
 
  • #986
I'm taking a "comfort" break too and having some left over cold chicken from Mr. Chicken. :seeya:
 
  • #987
Holy cow! When I got a TracPhone, I just bought it at WalMart and came home and set it up. I can't believe all the time this is taking just to purchase these phones.
 
  • #988
Wow! She goes right from buying phones onto typing that letter. I have to wonder how she kept all her different plots straight in her head.
 
  • #989
Hi Christi, If I was in the Courthouse when she testifies, I'm not sure I would not be thrown out for rolling my eyes. Her stories are so farfetched it would be hard not to roll your eyes.
I wonder what the Judge will do if the jurors start rolling their eyes.

GM this post made me laugh a little too hard/hefty. OOPs

I agree this woman has some kind of imagination. Who could be friends with her=Ms. Non-stop talker? I also think she really thought she would never have to pay for this crime.
 
  • #990
OMG, now she is trying to make Ms. Walker feel guilty by writing in her letter from "Abraham" that no one forgets their son's voice and trying to manipulate Ms. Walker as well. Dorice murders Ms. Walker's son and then trys to put a guilt trip on his mother. I feel ill just hearing that letter. The whole letter is just designed to cover Dorice. Throw in that his brother, James, threatened to kill him so she can add another suspect when he is found murdered. She writes Dee will always be there for him? And now she writes about Cedric saying he gave nothing to his own family. Dorice told us here how little Abraham gave to his family and how he gave so much more to acquaintances, running him down while the forked tongue was trying to tell us how she was only trying to help him. And the letter is filled with racist slurs. Can anyone say sociopath? And what is she talking about maybe his thumbprint can show the cops he is alive? Where would she get a thumbprint from him?
 
  • #991
Lunchtime break. Returns at 1pm. 177 viewers.
 
  • #992
....what about deedee family...has anyone seen them?......
 
  • #993
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OMG, now she is trying to make Ms. Walker feel guilty by writing in her letter from "Abraham" that no one forgets their son's voice and trying to manipulate Ms. Walker as well. Dorice murders Ms. Walker's son and then trys to put a guilt trip on his mother. I feel ill just hearing that letter. The whole letter is just designed to cover Dorice. Throw in that his brother, James, threatened to kill him so she can add another suspect when he is found murdered. She writes Dee will always be there for him? And now she writes about Cedric saying he gave nothing to his own family. Dorice told us here how little Abraham gave to his family and how he gave so much more to acquaintances, running him down while the forked tongue was trying to tell us how she was only trying to help him. And the letter is filled with racist slurs. Can anyone say sociopath? And what is she talking about maybe his thumbprint can show the cops he is alive? Where would she get a thumbprint from him?



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I guess she 'thought ahead" after she shot him...wow...wow....wow.
 
  • #994
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I guess she 'thought ahead" after she shot him...wow...wow....wow.

No chit !! That letter was typed to Mrs. Walker nine months after Abraham was dead and buried, so did Dee Dee Moore save a sheet of paper that Abraham had touched all that time in anticipation that one day she might have to use it for something? OMG!!

Or was he missing a thumb when they found in dead?
 
  • #995
Wait - WHAT?

His fingerprint is on the letter? :what:
 
  • #996
No chit !! That letter was typed to Mrs. Walker nine months after Abraham was dead and buried, so did Dee Dee Moore save a sheet of paper that Abraham had touched all that time in anticipation that one day she might have to use it for something? OMG!!

Or was he missing a thumb when they found in dead?

Those were my exact 2 thoughts. The premeditated murder along with the tape she made of him saying he would be going away that he obviously did not want to participate in. Did she premeditate it that well that she had his fingerprints on things? And the second thought, recheck the autopsy for the condition of the hands. At the end of that letter she wrote something to the effect of if my signature isn't good enough, then will a thumbprint do. I am going to have to relisten to the letter part.
 
  • #997
"Since my signature can't tell cops I'm alive, maybe my thumbprint can" is the last sentence in the letter. Just relistened.
 
  • #998
so either she had his thumbprint on a blank piece of paper she later typed this letter on (premeditated big time) or she means his DNA from him handling a piece of blank paper (also premeditated).....both are very disturbing but she def said "thumbprint....wow! That is all I keep saying is Wow!!
 
  • #999
What date was the letter written?
 
  • #1,000
is anyone up yet?
 
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