FL FL - AMBER ALERT: Diana Alvares, 9, Fort Myers, 29 May 2016 #3

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  • #541
Corey Lazar mentioned something else in this morning's video:

"And we've also learned about the searches in Polk, Hendry, and Osceola counties. Now we've learned that the Pasco, Jackson, and Orange County sheriff's offices were all involved as well."​

It's rather ambiguous as to whether they were involved in searches or not but two are not adjacent to the other counties searched and one is far north. The counties he mentioned:

  • Orange County - Orlando, where JGT lived/tossed or lost phone
  • Osceola County - search near Yeehaw Junction
  • Polk County - search at Grape Hammock Fish Camp
  • Hendry County - new? - adjacent to Lee County (Diana's home) and Glades County (Moore Haven search site)
  • Pasco County - definitely new - in west central FL
  • Jackson County - definitely new - in the panhandle bordering both Georgia and Alabama.

I marked a map for those not familiar with the state pointing out the new counties. The ?'s are known search sites; ? on Hendry was an oops but probably a safe assumption. The X is where he was arrested in Okeechobee.

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The way it's worded, it could also mean Pasco etc. sent search teams to help out in the other locations, not necessarily that there were searches in those counties.


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  • #542
I only saw a reference to it. I will keep looking thank you.
 
  • #543
Lots of great posts here and information I did not see before but one thing still stands out for me. In earlier threads there was a reference to JG posting horses and DA drawing them. Where did this come from? For me this is the biggest clue so far. I have not been able to identify a source saying this aside of a post here. Anyone have an idea?

Her parents said she liked to draw horses, in an interview.

Here is a picture of a horse on his profile. I didnt see many pictures of horses, just this one, really
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...45838948.16568.100004014489106&type=3&theater
 
  • #544
Lots of great posts here and information I did not see before but one thing still stands out for me. In earlier threads there was a reference to JG posting horses and DA drawing them. Where did this come from? For me this is the biggest clue so far. I have not been able to identify a source saying this aside of a post here. Anyone have an idea?
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  • #545
They will likely dispatch many LE locations to assist. The primary areas will be where his cell phone pinged. Unfortunately it is a very desolate area and him knowing the fields from work will make it even more difficult to locate her either dead or alive. :(.

Most of the clues would come from what SHE was thinking was going to happen and unfortunately we do not have that info.
 
  • #546
Jackson County? Wow, where did that come from? Maybe he did have help.....

It's odd. I can't find any other info beyond unspecified "assists of other agencies" in the town newspaper's police log. Maybe he had help (someone who lives there or passed through?), they questioned someone to get info on JGT, checked to see if JGT was at a friend's or relative's home there, or ... ? The car was found within hours of the issuance of the Amber Alert but maybe someone thought they saw it in Jackson or Pasco and called it in.
 
  • #547
according to his bio he is also a former police officer, training officer, as well as a homicide detective prior to becoming an attorney. This case may have piqued his interest because of his prior LE involvement and the initial reports that this case could involve a custody dispute between mom (here in the US) and dad (who is in Mexico). I can see how this case would be of interest to someone like him. The case would speak to several areas of his career path.

While that may be true, law is very specialized. My sister, brother and father are all attorneys. None of them would dare try to represent someone outside of their area of expertise in law. They usually won't even give you advice on a different field!

I hope he is not representing them, just because it interests him. I think that would do them a disservice. If they need actual representation, their best bet would be to find someone with some legitimate experience and knowledge in that area. This is just my opinion. I just think this whole situation has been very messy, already. I would hate there to be any added stress by aligning with someone who is looking for publicity more than the ability to actually be helpful.
 
  • #548
The way it's worded, it could also mean Pasco etc. sent search teams to help out in the other locations, not necessarily that there were searches in those counties.

Yeah, I just can't imagine what mostly rural Jackson County, over 350 miles from the northernmost search site, would have resource-wise that couldn't be found much closer to where the searches have been conducted. Pasco does have deputy and volunteer mounted units trained for SAR.
 
  • #549
I don't understand this sudden claim of speaking to JG the morning she went missing. The time they're giving is just fifteen minutes after the 911 call reporting her missing.

This video is from Wednesday, June 1st. Mom tells the reporter JG still hasn't returned her calls, making it sound as though she had not gotten in touch with him yet. The reporter even calls him herself, getting his voicemail. They play the beginning of his outgoing message, which is the recording of his number. "You have reached 305-7." That is also the beginning of the number listed in the federal complaint.

Area code 305 is Miami, BTW.

[video=youtube;fxPA8fYVTDY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxPA8fYVTDY[/video]
 
  • #550
Please do not discuss where anyone on JG's friends list lives.

Thanks :)
 
  • #551
FWIW, there are several social media apps that are available that make it difficult to track (mainly by unsuspecting parents). Text conversations, image sharing, video chatting can be pretty darn confusing (for me anyway!). Also, if DA played any games that had the ability to chat or send messages is another possibility. I don't want to give specific examples for obvious reasons. It is something I talk with my kids about regularly since they're using the internet more and more. I've had this in the back of my mind reading all the comments here and on SM about how DA and JG may have communicated. Another thing that reminded me about the various apps was the bio-dad used the "Whatsapp" app (prior to all this) to contact DA's mom which didn't reveal his phone number. Kids are sneaky - no blame AT ALL, it's just their nature. Sadly, though, so are criminals.

The other thing is...after reading those links about the attorneys, it being Florida, and someone turning things into a circus..*ahem* JB/CA *cough* There are at least three possibilities that I've thought of so far - notoriety/publicity, someone in the family may have a reason to retain a criminal atty, and then there is just your friendly neighborhood, pro-bono, just-in-case attorney. Personally, I have never known an attorney that was that kind, but then again I've never been involved in a anything remotely like this situation.

These are all my opinions and thoughts. :twocents:
 
  • #552
Sadly this case continues unresolved. Diana is still missing. A MEDIA LINKS, MAPS & TIMELINE thread has been created for this case. Please post snips and links to media coverage of the case in the media thread as it comes out. This will help us track down statements and information of interest as the case progresses.
 
  • #553
Yeah, I just can't imagine what mostly rural Jackson County, over 350 miles from the northernmost search site, would have resource-wise that couldn't be found much closer to where the searches have been conducted. Pasco does have deputy and volunteer mounted units trained for SAR.

Sometimes around here LE from one town will take over routine work like patrols and traffic control and such to free up resources for the search. I don't know whether they'd be doing something like that in this case.


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  • #554
Sadly this case continues unresolved. Diana is still missing. A MEDIA LINKS, MAPS & TIMELINE thread has been created for this case. Please post snips and links to media coverage of the case in the media thread as it comes out. This will help us track down statements and information of interest as the case progresses.

Thank you tlcya for creating a Media Thread for precious Diana!

I concur that we are at a point where this is necessary. I truly encourage my fellow WSers to post all pertinent links (MSM, LE, etc.), as they post onto her main threads. IMO, being able to see how a case developed from the beginning is really helpful.

In addition, our awesome map makers have done tremendous work already (shoutout to skibaboo and Steelman to name a few! And heartfelt apologies to those I know I've missed :blushing: ).

We can only hope Diana is found safe, and soon. The longer this goes on, the more attention her case will garner. That said, it may bring more new members here. Nothing helps more than an up-to-date media thread! IMO, this goes from WS newbie to veteran :)
:twocents:

Praying with all I have that we hear some good news soon. My youngest is 9 years old. Every time I visit this thread, it tears me apart.

#BringDianaHome!!!
:please:

:candle:

ETA2: wow tlcya, I just read the MT & you did an amazing job. The thanks button just isn't enough!

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  • #555
Sadly this case continues unresolved. Diana is still missing. A MEDIA LINKS, MAPS & TIMELINE thread has been created for this case. Please post snips and links to media coverage of the case in the media thread as it comes out. This will help us track down statements and information of interest as the case progresses.

Saddest needed thread ever..... and yet SUCH a wonderful job! Thank you.
 
  • #556
I don't understand this sudden claim of speaking to JG the morning she went missing. The time they're giving is just fifteen minutes after the 911 call reporting her missing.

This video is from Wednesday, June 1st. Mom tells the reporter JG still hasn't returned her calls, making it sound as though she had not gotten in touch with him yet. The reporter even calls him herself, getting his voicemail. They play the beginning of his outgoing message, which is the recording of his number. "You have reached 305-7." That is also the beginning of the number listed in the federal complaint.

Area code 305 is Miami, BTW.

[video=youtube;fxPA8fYVTDY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxPA8fYVTDY[/video]

Those types of bits and pieces are EXACTLY what has kept this case so very different from others, to me. It is like just when you start feeling settled with the facts, one that is so random and so pertinent is disclosed! One that had not even been hinted at before. And not due to media editing, straight from interviews.

Someone needs to talk!!!! Where is Diana!!!!

EDIT!!!!! WOW~!!! How did I miss that video?? That is the mother lode video! It shows the room where the brothers stayed- I had not seen that or known that. She explains the stove--- all 6 burners on high, with the oil pot on there. She called BOTH brothers and NEITHER of them answered! Well, this video is full of good info. Thanks for reposting that one! Is it on the media thread? :)
 
  • #557
Please do not discuss where anyone on JG's friends list lives.

Thanks :)
Sorry, my bad! Back to reading only(the posts and again the rules) the rest of the day.

Sorry! (apologizing for my oops in advance)
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  • #558
Sorry, my bad! Back to reading only(the posts and again the rules) the rest of the day.

Sorry! (apologizing for my oops in advance)
Old Lurker, New Poster

Don't worry too much. Making a mistake just means you have learned something. I know I have learned A LOT here!
 
  • #559
Sometimes there is no grooming needed. My neighbours grandfather was visiting her family and sexually assaulted me.
My grandfathers brother as well had all us kids one summer and took me behind a barn and did what he wanted with me. I barely knew either man.
I knew something wasn't right both times. I was 8 and 10. I never told a soul. I just told my mom a few years ago whom still thinks I made it up. It's a sad affair when a parent thinks we would lie. I don't know why I didn't tell I wasn't threatened by either one. Both were random incidents that happened one time. I've pushed aside those days so long ago that it's hard to even imagine what little Diana is going through/went through. My prayers are that she is brought home and her family is able to fully process what has happened.


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Dyanna,

I was in the middle of trying to catch up on what I hadn't read yet, but I just had to stop and reply to your post.

I am so so sorry this happened to you and having two pedophiles prey upon you is gut wrenching for me to know you went through this as a child. My sexual abuse was continuous when it came to my father since I was trapped inside of the home with him. But I also had a uncle by marriage who also molested me, and an elderly neighbor that lived up the street. Those two did not rape me, but I was still scared to death of them and tried to stay out of their way.

It also breaks my heart more than you will ever know to know your mom did not believe you, but this happens way more often than some may think.:( I never told my mom because I always felt she had to know already what was happening to me. She had to see how scared I was of my father, and how nervous I was when he even entered the room. She knew how I would beg, cry, and plead with her every time not to leave me with him when she went to town yet every time she told me I had to stay there. My many tears did not bother her in the least.

I had more issues about my mom that I had to resolve than my actual predator. I knew he was mean, cruel, and evil, period. Even to this day I still question how my mom stood by and let all of the abuse happen to me over and over again. She has been deceased for 29 years but the question is still there. It wasn't just sexual abuse, he was a very cruel man who also emotionally, and physically abused me. Yet she never lifted a finger to help me, and I was a very obedient well mannered sweet natured child who never gave either of them any problems. I never told her anything for I knew if I did she would say she didn't believe me, take my father's side, and hearing that would have hurt as much as the abuse I think.

Moms are supposed to always be there for their children under all circumstances. They know their children like no one else just like your mom knows you, and she knew you really weren't lying about it Dyanna.IMO Why moms do this I have never understood, but more disbelieve than those who do believe their child or children. For the abused child it has to be the utter betrayal of all betrayals. Its so hard for an abused child to open up about what happened to them even if it takes decades and they are then adults. Not being believed once telling has to be one of the worst hurts an abused child would have to endure. Again, I am so sorry you went through this, and I know it had to hurt you badly.

I even learned how to turn a huge negative into a positive in my life by always believing my parents taught me everything about what NOT TO DO as a parent when I became a mom.

I never become desensitized at all of the abuse stories I read here by each survivor.:( I still can feel each and every one's pain, but happy that so many seem to have become warriors for a better life. and have succeeded in that goal. God bless you all for being so courageous.

IMO
 
  • #560
Thank you. I didn't see his FB before it went down or any pictures she drew. I was thinking brown horses. This doesn't fit with my theory.
 
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