FL-AMBER ALERT Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs. old - Putnam County #10

[ElizaAvalon]

The layout may be similar to this http://www.topproducerwebsite.com/users/15728/images/2436-947.jpg which would explain the location of the "back door" and rear windows, stovepipe.

So if there are 3 bedrooms in that trailer, why were they all sleeping in the same room?

 

[Carla Lashelle]

I think a big problem is just people dealing with semantics and grammar. If someone is sleeping with you it can be in the same bed, in the same room, or in a seperate bed in the same room. If someone is answering questions either under stress, or giving short yes/no answers it might come across vague, or inconsistent. but it really isn't. Plus half the time you are hearing a reporter summarize something they got off a printed sheet, taken down my someone else, etc. And, people like NG in particular just get facts dead wrong. So I wouldn't take much she said as gosple either. I don't think the g/f has really changed her story, just details have been clarified or released that weren't released earlier. Im not saying she isnt suspicious or not, but I think people scruitinze every word wayyyy too much. I think also all of us have been in a situation where we have said something and have had to clarify or correct it.

 

[mydailyopinions]

So all the beds are in the same room?

Apparently, and they must play musical beds all night long too!, Oh and don't forget they all get up to go to the bathroom at the same time:waitasec:

 

[Mellen]

At 17, she is hardly considered too young to babysit or be a caregiver. Most babysitters I know started at 14yo.

I don't think it matters if she was a minor or not. We are not talking about the father being a pedophile here. He is close enough to her age for it to be considered, imo, an acceptable relationship.

Babysitting, yes, but taking care of two little kids on a daily (or in this case nightly) basis? Seems to me that is asking for trouble. When my step daughter was 17, I had no problem with her babysitting her 5-year-old sister at night when we went out on occasion. She also filled in doing full-day daycare for a couple of days here and there when our regular daycare was closed, but I can't imagine expecting her to do that every night while I was at work. It's just asking for trouble somewhere down the line. Bottom line is that she's a kid, and it's really asking too much of someone that age.

 

[JTennisonFL]

Don't know if this was posted, apologies if it has been...

The Cummings are getting help from another family.

George and Cindy Anthony visited Satsuma Thursday to not only help with the search, but to comfort them.

“They need to be in support of each other. They need to be there no matter what. They need to be out there when things get tough, and there are tough days. There's tough hours. There's tough minutes. They need to know they can reach out to me, to Josh (Duckett), to my wife Cindy, to my son, to other families that understand. We've become members of a unique club, and that unique club is there to help you,” said George Anthony.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/2/13/amber_alert__day_4_in_search_for_haleigh.html

I can't remember; how many "tough" days/hours/minutes did GA and CA go slogging through the woods looking for Caylee? I remember GA driving a vehicle around town pulling a trailer. No, seriously, I don't remember. Maybe they both DID get their feet wet.

 

[yosande]

I wonder why a stranger abductor wouldn't take both children also. If that is the case(which I am not so sure it is)
JMOO

Imo, stranger abductions usually only take one child, the one they have been watching and want. Also even peds have preferences to sex and age, usually. ugh

 

[SeriouslySearching]

SS I agree with every single post you've made in the last umpteen threads on the Haleigh situation.

LOL It is nice to have someone agree with me now and then. (I can be considered a bit "controversial" at times.)

 

[swanniee11]

But that depends on who the perp is......wink wink

lol, my point exactly! If it wasnt dad or g/f or family member who didnt know that the door was broken ( for lack of other terms) then the unknown may have used a brick "just in case" to stop it from closing or making noise.

 

[tehcloser]

she said that they were all in the master bedroom, 2 beds, Haleigh in one of them (closest to the tv, which we don't know the layout of that so thats not helpful) and she and the 3yr old were in the other bed. ( I'm guessing the masterbed)

I can understand this sleeping arrangment, mine were right with me as well.

Oh, I have no problems with the sleeping arrangements. I was just wondering if H was in a different room....that would cease the speculation of how someone took her right out of the bed without Misty knowing. I however am beginning to think there was no soddi.

 

[kellync]

This is totally hypothetical, but does anyone think that maybe the dad's previous gf (if he had one, which he probably did), may have gotten very attached to Haleigh and felt she had been replaced by the new gf...I know how hard it is to not get attached to kids and then when things don't work out, it can be very upsetting. This person would have known the layout of the house and ex bf's schedule, etc. Haleigh may have willingly gone with somebody she knew...

this is one of the reasons I have been shouting from the rooftops "who watched haleigh before Misty came along???"

 

[Georgia101957]

just for consideration, the only thing we don't know is if they had a master bath in their trailer.

 

[nursebeeme]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=131165&catid=3

anybody local.... just a reminder that starting shortly (at four pm florida time) is a one hour special on first coast news on Haleigh's case and new updates from LE

 

[impatientredhead]

Ok all don't flame me....

You might want to check the state laws on age of an adult. I know many states are 17 you are considered adult. FL law states that consent is 16, not that I think that it is correct but that is IMHP....

I was talking to hubby last night and I was like this case is strange, why would someone prop open the door with a brick? His answer is to not risk having the door screech or having to open the door again, you can grab the child quickly and run. Made since when he put it that way.

Yes the GF does seem a little off the rocker for me but hey who am I to judge.

The door that we see on the side of the MH is a door in my opinion, if you are looking at the image, it is facing you. the ones on the back are windows I believe, also the thing from the roof is a chimney? And there are also 2 skylights that are in bathrooms of most mobile homes.

Someone posted the statute yesterday 16-23 is okay, 24 with 17 is a felony. However she may be an emancipated minor, or it is really clear her parents aren't going to press charges, and Misti is not going to file a complaint. Unless she turns up pregnant the state can't prove they are doing anything illegal. She's the live in nanny. I hear nanny's are all the rage in Florida this year.

 

[GRANNYL]

Thank you Friday!
Please tell Tim that websleuths has his back! His side! His Front! His Top! His Bottom!
We have him covered!

Yes thanks Friday.

I'm sorry I forgot to tell everyone I told Tim in both phone calls that it was Websleuths members who put out the word and found out and contacted Gainesville Sun not to publish any pictures. I made sure he knew Websleuths is here for him 100%.

Trust me Friday's not kidding when she said he was angry!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

So all the beds are in the same room?

They have two beds in the master bedroom and a tv. (If I understand correctly, the kids also have a room of their own.) Supposedly, the beds are spaced about 4 feet apart. Haleigh is described to have been sleeping in the smaller bed alone and GF with Ronald Jr. were in the larger bed. GF considered because they were in the same room so close they were sleeping "together".

 

[scout35]

The layout may be similar to this http://www.topproducerwebsite.com/users/15728/images/2436-947.jpg which would explain the location of the "back door" and rear windows, stovepipe.

If that is a similar lay out to their house, I can see how she didn't make it to the bathroom. If the bedroom door was open, the kitchen light would be shining into the bedroom.

She probably woke up, saw the light and went into the kitchen to see what was going on and saw that the door was open.

Pertaining to heavy sleeping: I don't have children yet, but if I am lucky enough to have a child, I have a major fear of not being able to wake up for the baby. When I am in deep sleep, I don't wake up easily, and when I am woken up, I'm still asleep if that makes sense.

As an example, my bf wakes me up every morning to say good bye to me when he leaves for work. Most of the time, he tells me that I start talking to him as if he were in my dream and a lot of times I panic and don't recognize his face and I tell him to leave me alone because I have a bf and I don't remember any of it. It takes me atleast 5 minutes to realize that I'm awake and another 5 to be able to get my brain going. I've been like this all of my life. I know if I were the gf, I wouldn't be surprised if it took me a little while to process that the little girl was gone and being confused as to what to do.

She may be the same way. You never know. IMO

 

[impatientredhead]

So if there are 3 bedrooms in that trailer, why were they all sleeping in the same room?

because the only people in the house are three children of various maturity levels?

 

[MsBashterd]

You know...I think a lot of it has been due to shaky reporting....add on top of that Misty seems not to express her thoughts verbally in interviews and all of us are confused.

She seems very "low voltage" to me (nurse saying). I bet LE had a heyday with their interview of her. I really don't think she is changing her story and lying... I think she cannot verbalize for crap and also does not realize just how many people are scrutinizing her every single word and eye lid blink. During one interview, under his breath, Ronald told her to sit up and look at the camera.

Add stress, youth, lack of sleep, AND low voltage and I think this is what you would get... Just my thought of course...:crazy: however crazy it may sound

:clap:
Well said I am thinking along these lines also. I just don't think the GF is of a high enough voltage to have pulled this off. I do however believe that she may have left the children alone and gone out the side door and left it unlocked, while the kids were sleeping. Now look at what happened she is probably sacred as Heck of the police, her boyfriend and going to jail. After all she does seem just a tad naive and yes a little low voltage.

JMO

 

[NRN]

This is totally hypothetical, but does anyone think that maybe the dad's previous gf (if he had one, which he probably did), may have gotten very attached to Haleigh and felt she had been replaced by the new gf...I know how hard it is to not get attached to kids and then when things don't work out, it can be very upsetting. This person would have known the layout of the house and ex bf's schedule, etc. Haleigh may have willingly gone with somebody she knew...

Hhmm, interesting angle. Good thinking outside the box!

 

[christine2448]

Continue here please