FL-AMBER ALERT Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs. old - Putnam County #13

[CHICANA]

Yeah! Caught up again.

Ok - first. The little boy is with bio-mom back where she lives. Her and her fiance have "Jr." - her mom was on and said she has spoken to her and she sounds alot better. Seems bio-mom had an "episode" today. She's not drinking, eating, basically worrying herself to death. So I guess it was decided for her to take the boy home with fiance and try to "distance" herself for a day or so.

Next, through all this I have developed a new thought. This is just me thinking out loud - so. What if it was dad? What if he got work a little early and came home - went in the front and out the back? Then he got back in his truck and drove around and came back like he was just getting home? Maybe when he got there first gf wasn't there and it pizzed him off so bad - Haleigh could have woken up and he "took it out" on her. Then out the back, in the car and back home like he was just getting home. GF has no idea this happened as she wasn't there.

Anyone? Whatcha think?

Dad's work records will either contribute to this or squelch it completely. Dad made a point of saying how he "is just trying to earn a decent living, stole my kid while I was a work".

I still think it was strange that he automatically knew she was abducted and he was gonna have to kill somebody.
The more I think about it, if he had done something and he had to figure out how to get away with it, this is it. He seemed too matter of fact, like it was staged.
However, my first impression was that neither had anything to do with it.

 

[SuziQ]

Has there been any confirmation that Hayleigh was at school at all on Monday? Do we have a confirmation of an independent last sighting of her?

 

[CHICANA]

The same grandma that only sees her twice a month if that much? The same one that has ripped her father a new one because she is angry and bitter over the custody dispute? How well does she really know this child?

I think she's probably bitter because she only gets to see her twice a month and now she'll probably never see her again.

 

[Kimster]

Has there been any confirmation that Hayleigh was at school at all on Monday? Do we have a confirmation of an independent last sighting of her?

Oh boy....I read on a local's MySpace about her being at school on Monday and sitting next to her little boy. I'm sorry, I did not save the link. Had no idea I might want to reference it someday! :bang:

 

[shadow of my mind]

Yeah! Caught up again.

Ok - first. The little boy is with bio-mom back where she lives. Her and her fiance have "Jr." - her mom was on and said she has spoken to her and she sounds alot better. Seems bio-mom had an "episode" today. She's not drinking, eating, basically worrying herself to death. So I guess it was decided for her to take the boy home with fiance and try to "distance" herself for a day or so.

Next, through all this I have developed a new thought. This is just me thinking out loud - so. What if it was dad? What if he got work a little early and came home - went in the front and out the back? Then he got back in his truck and drove around and came back like he was just getting home? Maybe when he got there first gf wasn't there and it pizzed him off so bad - Haleigh could have woken up and he "took it out" on her. Then out the back, in the car and back home like he was just getting home. GF has no idea this happened as she wasn't there.

Anyone? Whatcha think?

Dad's work records will either contribute to this or squelch it completely. Dad made a point of saying how he "is just trying to earn a decent living, stole my kid while I was a work".

I put his work place and the home address in google. 16 miles and 26 minuets drive time. That tracks with him leaving work at 3:00AM and the 911 call at IIRC 3:27. No traffic heavy foot on the gas peddle shaves off some time.
If he left work early LE would know that by now.

 

[Busylady]

Do not know that grandma would have a clue how long Haleigh has not wet the bed. She doesnt spend much time with her, I find it hard to believe she would know this fact, but not know why the child has missed alot of school.

Grandmother stated Haleigh hasn't wet the bed for 2 years. I think that's why there's renewed concerns with this issue.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I think she's probably bitter because she only gets to see her twice a month and now she'll probably never see her again.

I can understand, but this is a time when they need to put away their issues and come together for Haleigh. I just don't know I can trust anything they say tho because of the way they have acted towards the father. The father on the other hand has been very careful about answering questions relating to the bio mom or family. I have not heard him dis them once.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Oh boy....I read on a local's MySpace about her being at school on Monday and sitting next to her little boy. I'm sorry, I did not save the link. Had no idea I might want to reference it someday! :bang:

Wow! I am sorry, too. For some reason, LE doesn't want to answer that question. (Could it still be on your history?)

 

[aussieblue]

hmmmmm This is so similar to Jessica L .... its so depressing

I still think gf hasnt hurt Haleigh or that her dad was involved in this (hopeful thinking) .....

Someone they know or someone living there in the park has been watching and waiting.

I just think she is close by and i think this will have a sad ending just like JL

Im also still sus on her bio-mum and gm .... why kick the dad in the media??? he hasnt bad mouthed them at all, there lives certainly arent sparkling clear either. Nasty very nasty!

 

[mydailyopinions]

I can understand, but this is a time when they need to put away their issues and come together for Haleigh. I just don't know I can trust anything they say tho because of the way they have acted towards the father. The father on the other hand has been very careful about answering questions relating to the bio mom or family. I have not heard him dis them once.

I haven't heard them him dis them either SS. One thing that bothers me that they are obviously not realizing is that HE is the next of kin. It is up to him what information is shared with them. They should really join together now while they still have time. It is not doing Haleigh any good for them to be separated at this time. And to be honest with you, if it a problem between the gf and the mother, then the gf needs to step back or force the issue of them coming together.., that is what a concerned mother would do for the children..if she wants to be a mother, it is time to act like one and that includes coming together with bio mom for the sake of this child.
I am angry that bio mom's own mother isn't pushing the issue, instead she is making it worse! Where are the adults in this situation?

 

[SuziQ]

Oh boy....I read on a local's MySpace about her being at school on Monday and sitting next to her little boy. I'm sorry, I did not save the link. Had no idea I might want to reference it someday! :bang:

Thanks! It's hard to tell what all to keep in cases like this.

 

[NRN]

I am so bothered by all of this tonight..I guess because it seems the answers are right there.
If I were a member of that community, I would be pissed if LE didn't come out and say that there is a dangerous SO, or perp on the loose.
They have no suspects, yet will not reveal the poly results.
Something just isn't right.
My only hopes are that they know something and are waiting for either a confession or the true events to what happened before they make an arrest at all, to keep the perp from lawyer-ing up..

The many posts making references to the polys - his, hers x2, no biomom's yet - got to remember polys are not fool proof, I was reading that some jurisdictions want to do away w/ them altogether because they really aren't that accurate. Previously I had believed lie detectors were accurate, but after reading some articles (sorry don't have urls) I'm not so sure - please correct me if more current info available -

 

[mydailyopinions]

Oh boy....I read on a local's MySpace about her being at school on Monday and sitting next to her little boy. I'm sorry, I did not save the link. Had no idea I might want to reference it someday! :bang:

I seen it too Kimster..I know it was last night sometime, I guess the only way to know is to go back through all those threads...:bang:

 

[PattyCake]

hmmmmm This is so similar to Jessica L .... its so depressing

I still think gf hasnt hurt Haleigh or that her dad was involved in this (hopeful thinking) .....

Someone they know or someone living there in the park has been watching and waiting.

I just think she is close by and i think this will have a sad ending just like JL

Im also still sus on her bio-mum and gm .... why kick the dad in the media??? he hasnt bad mouthed them at all, there lives certainly arent sparkling clear either. Nasty very nasty!

I'm thinking the grandmother is a GOOD example as to why the bio mom is the way she is.

 

[shadow of my mind]

I do not understand why LE is not saying anything about that either or about the father's work time having been verified but then there not telling the locals to be extra cautious about locking doors and such. Makes me think that this is not a total stranger abduction. IDK maybe with all of the SO in the area they are afraid of a backlash on those who actually don't have anything to do with this. I know in my town years ago, a young girl was raped and a group of guys got all tanked up at the local bar and went to this guy’s house and went after him with bats. The only problem was it wasn't the right guy and they were too drunk to notice. He had moved and it was his old address and they put some poor innocent person in the hospital

 

[black poodle]

I have been reading all your posts for awhile excellent sleuthing by the way. I don't post very often, His sister was on NG tonight and she said the GF was a responsible 17 YO give me a break, She also does not think 17 is very young to be playing wife and watching 2 kids, then the maternal GM says her daughter is with Chad and JR and was happy, being with them, if my 5 YO was missing you wouldn't be able to drag me away from that command post. I fell the bio mom and her mom are full of sour grapes and really have no clue what they are talking about they don't seem to know alot about this childs life. I think someone the dad and GF know well took this child and I believe sadley she is not with us any longer, I wonder how old the brother and nephews are that were visiting earlier that evening? IMO

 

[Kimster]

Wow! I am sorry, too. For some reason, LE doesn't want to answer that question. (Could it still be on your history?)

SS, I am fading quickly...been working on a HUGE multi-family garage sale! I can't sleuth any longer!

I do know I saw it through one of these people...starting with this person. I was pulling them up one by one and then realized they all have kids who go to school with Haleigh. And now I'm second guessing myself if I saw specifically that the student's mom said she sat next to her son on Monday or not, but that's what I remember. Again, I'm really tired and going to bed now, but here is the link to start with! (my history only had this one and a history link to my own space and a couple of others that were dead ends, but I did look at all the friends on this page, I know). Hope this helps! :blowkiss:

http://www.myspace.com/daisygirl77

:bedtime:

 

[aussieblue]

I haven't heard them him dis them either SS. One thing that bothers me that they are obviously not realizing is that HE is the next of kin. It is up to him what information is shared with them. They should really join together now while they still have time. It is not doing Haleigh any good for them to be separated at this time. And to be honest with you, if it a problem between the gf and the mother, then the gf needs to step back or force the issue of them coming together.., that is what a concerned mother would do for the children..if she wants to be a mother, it is time to act like one and that includes coming together with bio mom for the sake of this child.
I am angry that bio mom's own mother isn't pushing the issue, instead she is making it worse! Where are the adults in this situation?

Yesterday the bio-mum said in a interview that she hasnt met the gf BUT the kids really seem to love her (gf).

It seemed that she was actually praising the gf. Then the gm said something about the kids being hit.

I think it was in a GVS interview. I thought it strange that the gm seems to constantly bad mouth him.

OH also the bio-mum said there is no probs/anger between her and the X.

I think this was talked about in the threads #4-#5

Does anyone alse remember this??????

(remember my days your nights ummmmmmm so im probably confusing people about when this was on)

 

[CHICANA]

hmmmmm This is so similar to Jessica L .... its so depressing

I still think gf hasnt hurt Haleigh or that her dad was involved in this (hopeful thinking) .....

Someone they know or someone living there in the park has been watching and waiting.

I just think she is close by and i think this will have a sad ending just like JL

Im also still sus on her bio-mum and gm .... why kick the dad in the media??? he hasnt bad mouthed them at all, there lives certainly arent sparkling clear either. Nasty very nasty!

I understand what you're saying, but if we're to overlook dad's calling his gf a dumb f'n !#!#! because of the stress of finding out his daughter was missing, I think the mom & grandma should be afforded the same courtesy.

I also think they might be defensive because of the stigma of the dad getting the kids over the mom. I've heard so much criticism of the mother because she didn't have custody, that doesn't happen to non-custodial fathers.

 

[illinoismom]

I found this posted on another website.(dont know if I can post the link) Didnt know where to put it so FWIW....

standingfirm says:
February 13, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Barbara Brooks says:

February 13, 2009 at 7:14 pm

My
husband worked at a mobile home lot and he had about eight keys that
would unlock any home including the deadbolt. All the electricians,
plumbers and other contractors have these keys also. It would not be
difficult to get a hold of these keys. Perhaps that’s why there was no
forced entry? He called the tip line and gave them the information.
He also called Nancy Grace and all they said was thanks and hung up. I
hope she returns home soon.

I do not believe someone came in and took that child. I would thenk they would have taken advantage of the girl being asleep. I mean, come on, a seventeen-year-old girl alseep in bed/ someone with bad intentions coming in the house. Seems to me if that had been the case, the girl would have been at the least molested, at the worst…. killed.I think the girl has done something with Haleigh.