FL-AMBER ALERT Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs. old - Putnam County #2

[gibby207]

You could very well be right. If she staged it and the father wasn't aware of the cinder block being near the house...then is it logical she would know where to find one in the heat of the moment if she had done something?

This is my thinking, especially since they cleared up tonight that it was a screen door, nothing broken, that cinder block was placed against. It took her 45 minutes to call anyone as well. Now, I would probably search a while myself, but probably not 45 minutes...

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I heard something mentioned about a blanket and a sheet found near the deck. I know how rumors like to fly when it comes to these cases so what i am asking has anyone else heard anything about this?

I believe someone said on the other thread the blanket and sheet were drug outside by the search dogs. Not sure if it is true...but I read it earlier.

 

[kellync]

http://www.usdoj.gov/ndic/pubs27/27502/product.htm

well, there were more meth labs raided here in 2008 than in other surrounding counties. IDK why I asked, just wondered if there was an unusually large problem. Unsavory characters, etc. 44 RSO is plenty of unsavory characters already, but wondering if the girlfriend could be into drugs. She wouldnt be asleep at 10 though would she?

 

[CanManEh]

A lot of bars let in underage kids now. They put wristbands on them- one color if you can drink, another color if you are underage.

Fusion promoted it this way-- 17 to come---21 to swallow. :silenced:

Are you kidding me 21 and up come in groups of 2 maybe 4 kids that are 17 18 come in groups of 10 there getting in mark my word and thats not to mention that now a girl the age of 15 looks like she is 24 breasts twice the size of there mothers what bouncer is gonna stop a group of girls like that i mean no sarcasm but if u think underage kids arent getting in to the bar i personally can promiss you that your wrong.

 

[impatientredhead]

I believe someone said on the other thread the blanket and sheet were drug outside by the search dogs. Not sure if it is true...but I read it earlier.

I am curious about that as well. Sheets that four people have slept in doesn't seem to be the go to item to give the bloodhounds a scent. Isn't that usually a recently worn item of clothing?

 

[gibby207]

(note...nurse is NOT a conspiracy theorist LOL)

Does anyone remember the SO in the news in the past year or so that was interviewed by msm and he admitted how he drove to concerts and any places little girls were there to be "near them"..

I am taking this one step further... Sicko pervs like that live their fantasies every day and some of them act. Monsters like the one I mentioned above can go on the internet and fixate on crimes... I bet some even read true crime sites to play out things in their minds.

And just one tiny step further... (which...okay....I am completely admitting could border on the conspiracy theory side)... what if such a sick perv could have been infatuated with the caylee anthony case?

The timing of the alleged abduction is strange... on the early morning of Caylee's memorial.

The only reason this even crosses my mind is what I recall Nancy Grace saying on one of her shows leading up to the memorial.... she asked if such a large venue was such a great idea due to all kinds of sickos that could try to get in and do somthing stupid. In a stream of consciousness way I just kind of connected two faint dots that might not even be there...

However, I just had to get it off of my chest and thanks for entertaining my thoughts.

During the caylee case we have learned on tv and the web how to make and buy chloroform, etc etc etc..

I know...it seems crazy but we only have to look to Jet Duncan and the Kevin Underwoods of the world to know how much this could be true.

We had a guy in WA that was like that. He would show up to events to be around the little girls and was proud of it. Our media hounded him, followed him around, and eventually I think he left town and was busted on another charge. (I think he went to Oregon, in fact.) That, however, was a couple of years ago.

Then we have the other psycho from Idaho who killed the family, molested the little girl, etc.

This country is filled with filth, hell the world. There needs to be another method in dealing with these deviants, and maybe we shouldn't be so PC about it, KWIM?

 

[mydailyopinions]

Are We All On The Same Page Here That Something Has To Be Done With These Pedofiles
They Can Not Stop . So Why In The Hell Do They Let Them Out. 45/55 Registered In A 5 Mile Area Jesus If There Gonna Be Let Out They Need To Be Im Planted With A Chip Somewhere So That It Can't Be Taken Out Without Killing Themselves. That's My Humain Way To Do Something .You Don't Wanna Know What I Really Beleive Should Happen To These Pedofiles.

Seriously, I think it is time for regular citizens to take control.
I personally will shoot if one comes near my children. I will not wait for justice.

 

[concernedperson]

I would usually jump to look at family in a case like this. But, for some reason I am thinking sex offender which is a worst case scenario and I hope I am wrong.

 

[nursebeeme]

I heard something mentioned about a blanket and a sheet found near the deck. I know how rumors like to fly when it comes to these cases so what i am asking has anyone else heard anything about this?

just copied and pasted the hypothetical timeline I started

Dad picks up Haleigh from the bus stop and takes her home

Dad goes to work

Gf is at home with the kids and puts them down at 2000

Gf saw her sleeping at ten

Gf gets up at 0300 to use the restroom, notices door ajar and Haleigh is gone

Gf calls Dad just as he is getting home at 0337... just as he is pulling in the driveway

Gf tells Dad that the door is open and his daughter is gone

Gf calls 911 with Dad ranting in background. Phone is hung up

911 calls Gf back again. Gf does not know exact weight or height of child. Phone is hung up again.

LE interviews Dad and Gf. Both take polys. Allegedly both have passed.

44 RSOs live with in a five mile radius of Haleigh's home. Le is tracking each and every one of them. Some are also self reporting.

Many leads are coming in to LE. Some have involved vehicles and the possibility of a mobile offender. All leads are being followed.

LE states at a presser that if they truly thought at that time Haleigh was in the water the media could expect to see much more activity than what there currently is.

LE states that the dogs that tracked Haleigh's scent (blood hounds Iirc) could have been following skin cells that blew toward the water after bringing her blanket outside for the dogs to mark (it was very windy per Le).. per le..."a few of the dogs" tracked to the river.

Haleigh's mother and maternal grandmother arrive.

Local le is working with three volunteer search groups to help them search. some of them, per le, could be arriving to camp out tonight, 11 feb, to get ready for searches possibly starting tomorrow and friday

Investigators ruled out an abduction secondary to a custody dispute http://www.wesh.com/news/18681356/detail.html

relatives of the girl said they don't think they're getting the full story from the father's 17-year-old girlfriend.



feel free to add or subtract to this... I figured it would help to get a timeline going

 

[Tonia]

I believe someone said on the other thread the blanket and sheet were drug outside by the search dogs. Not sure if it is true...but I read it earlier.

Thanks SS,i read that statement somewhere else but nothing to back it up so i wanted to see if anyone else heard it.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I am curious about that as well. Sheets that four people have slept in doesn't seem to be the go to item to give the bloodhounds a scent. Isn't that usually a recently worn item of clothing?

Good point! Maybe LE was given a piece of clothing for the dogs tho and the reason the dogs went to the blanket and sheets.

 

[Salem]

This is my thinking, especially since they cleared up tonight that it was a screen door, nothing broken, that cinder block was placed against. It took her 45 minutes to call anyone as well. Now, I would probably search a while myself, but probably not 45 minutes...

At 3:00 a.m. I wouldn't take any longer than it took to check the bathroom, kitchen and any other bedrooms - 2/3 minutes tops! At 3:00 p.m. I might take 45 minutes while I checked with her friends, neighborhood kids and that sort of thing. In the middle of the night, I would be freaking out......

Salem

 

[gibby207]

Seriously, I think it is time for regular citizens to take control.
I personally will shoot if one comes near my children. I will not wait for justice.

Eh... ditto... And I have experience with pedophiles in my family (married into that is).

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Thanks SS,i read that statement somewhere else but nothing to back it up so i wanted to see if anyone else heard it.

It looks like NeeBee has it covered! Thanks, Neebee!!

 

[Tonia]

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/02/11/news/news01.txt

Ok i did find this:

Haleigh wasn't in bed. The back door of a blue doublewide mobile home was open, and a blanket and sheets were scattered on the wooden ramp leading from the door.

 

[impatientredhead]

Seriously, I think it is time for regular citizens to take control.
I personally will shoot if one comes near my children. I will not wait for justice.

That is a crime I would be an accessory to. What is the saying about a friend that will not only help you move, but will help you move the body. I have no tolerance for sex offenders (and I am not referencing someone 23 with a 16 year old etc) and do not believe they can be rehabilitated. At the most I think they learn how the rest of the world views child molestation and just blend in better.

Young offenders that are caught early in the acting out process are the only ones I think can be rehabilitated, and even then it is sketchy.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

At 3:00 a.m. I wouldn't take any longer than it took to check the bathroom, kitchen and any other bedrooms - 2/3 minutes tops! At 3:00 p.m. I might take 45 minutes while I checked with her friends, neighborhood kids and that sort of thing. In the middle of the night, I would be freaking out......

Salem

I believed they called it in at 3:27 am. So it depends on what time she really woke up to find her missing as to how long she looked for her or waited to call. Can we confirm a time yet?

 

[nursebeeme]

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/arti...ews/news01.txt

Ok i did find this:

Haleigh wasn't in bed. The back door of a blue doublewide mobile home was open, and a blanket and sheets were scattered on the wooden ramp leading from the door.

The hypothetical timline I did above is taken from the LE presser they did today. They said the blankets were taken outside of the trailer for the dogs to mark for a search. I think it was just misreported in that link as LE said how they got there.

 

[gibby207]

At 3:00 a.m. I wouldn't take any longer than it took to check the bathroom, kitchen and any other bedrooms - 2/3 minutes tops! At 3:00 p.m. I might take 45 minutes while I checked with her friends, neighborhood kids and that sort of thing. In the middle of the night, I would be freaking out......

Salem

Agreed! I would walk outside and scream, panicked, crying, make a scene. I would probably wake up neighbors, in fact. I have a feeling I wouldn't be thinking straight 10-15 minutes in, but after that, it's call LE. But, knowing me and my hysteria, I would be the neighbors would be out the doors, calling LE, and asking what is wrong. I would be outwardly distraught, loud, hysterical...

Hell, I did that when my ferret was missing... I made a HUGE scene and was bawling, screaming, crying outside. Neighbors came to my assistance for my ferret. I felt like an idiot afterward when I found her in my closet stuck in my husband's racing leathers, but I wouldn't have been different. I can't imagine it being one of my children....

 

[nursebeeme]

It looks like NeeBee has it covered! Thanks, Neebee!!

welcome! LOL.. I transcribed the earlier le presser... it nailed some things down.

I am thinking that the reason dad is able to pinpoint the exact time of 0327 is because his gf was calling him right as he pulled in the driveway and that would still be on the phone... the time that is... of when he was pulling in the driveway