FL - Anna Kepner, 18, dies aboard Carnival cruise ship traveling from Miami to Caribbean, FBI launch probe, 7 Nov 2025

  • #741
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The only POI/suspect in this case is a minor


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  • #742
As a mom, now grandma there is no way opposite sexes are sharing a room once they hit 10- 12 years old. Even bio siblings. I grew up with a brother and had a son and daughters. Never slept in the same room. It's just not a good idea to me. Hormones , false accusations....better to keep them apart. I know others have different experiences , this is a big no for me.
 
  • #743
I agree with you.

I still can not get past "I can't accuse him..."

Even if she did say: "but the summation would be that he did something" it was still prefaced by "I can't accuse him..."

That seriously makes me sick.
I presume she meant "assumption".
 
  • #744
It could have been literally life-saving if only someone in that "tight-knit family" had shown some integrity, and tried to set a good example.
 
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  • #746
But she still felt she couldn't accuse him. How does that make sense?
I think we’re getting into semantics at this point. She did proceed to essentially accuse him. Her qualification makes sense for the reason she stated — she wasn’t there. She can’t state as fact that he did it, but it’s her opinion that he must have done something. We can’t accuse him under Websleuth’s rules either.

I have a much bigger issue with everything else she has said that’s been quoted here.
 
  • #747
My question: why didn’t the stepbrother decline room service that day?
 
  • #748
Re deadbolts

Yes, cruise ship cabins have a deadbolt lock on the inside.

But...
Staff with a master keycard or a specific override key
can open the deadbolt.
This is typically reserved for emergencies.

Nobody wants to be trapped in a cabin in case of emergency, right?

JMO
I'm just jumping off this post. My sister cruises, I do not. A Norwegian cruise for her had a "deadbolt" lock that the key card opens from the outside, so even if someone locks the "deadbolt" from the inside, any person with a keycard to the room should be able to get in. On a Carnival cruise for her there was no "deadbolt" at all, hence why I know the hanger trick.

All cruise ships are not created equal, and from what she has told me, turning a deadbolt from the inside does not keep out a person with a key card for that room on most cruise ships she has been on. Perhaps there are some that do, but we don't know about this particular room.
 
  • #749
As a mom, now grandma there is no way opposite sexes are sharing a room once they hit 10- 12 years old. Even bio siblings. I grew up with a brother and had a son and daughters. Never slept in the same room. It's just not a good idea to me. Hormones , false accusations....better to keep them apart. I know others have different experiences , this is a big no for me.
ABSOLUTELY! Plus an 18 year old girl needs physical privacy from siblings, parents and anyone else!
 
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  • #751
My question: why didn’t the stepbrother decline room service that day?

Wasn't it the last day of their cruise? Can you decline the room being cleaned that day? (If it had occurred to him to try.)
 
  • #752
Hee former boyfriend said she was sexually harassed by stepbrothe and afraid of him.. Did her father know this?
 
  • #753
Now I am wondering. She died of mechanical asphyxiation. If you knock someone out, or even just wrap them in a blanket so they can't move and shove them under a bed, that can cause mechanical asphyxiation if there is a bar under the bed that keeps her from breathing. Especially if someone sits on the bed.

I can now see several ways this could have gone sideways. Pushed up against the side of a bunk, trapped under the bed, an arm across the neck, even sitting on her chest with a leg across her neck. I can think of a few more, but I'll leave that for now.
 
  • #754
My sister-in-law passed from an overdose in March, and the death certificate was available way before the tox results came back, which were months later. IIRC, it was needed in order to transfer her body from a different state for burial. I think the coroner put down that it was "pending" or something like that.
IMO.
My condolences to your family and yourself , never easy when someone passes away but when causes aren't natural it's harder because your left with so many what ifs 💔
 
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  • #755
Watched interview with grandma and grandpa .
I do see two people very upset and answering the interviewers questions as honestly as possible from their point of view while trying not to compromise an investigation and cause a mistrial imo .

Trial by media is a very real thing and can be used by defense lawyers worldwide and i for one would not want anything interfering with justice for Anna so if Grandma has to hold back on outrightly accussing stepbro and allowing anger to take over i think she did the right thing in phrasing it the way she did . MOO and JMHO
 
  • #756
Grandma seems very sweet but frankly the comment about no stepchildren is kablooey. I can't begin to imagine how the adults in her family could not understand how Anna and her brother might feel about being told these new kids on the block are totally equal in their eyes in all respects.

Most likely, this made it impossible for Anna to even discuss concerning issues with ANY of the adults who were supposed to protect her and look out for her best interests. Being booted to the dining room as a "bedroom" is sad but there were no alternatives it seems. Too bad it wasnt the older boys who may have needed less closet space and it was only 8 more months then they could have taken her room.

As to the 16 year old "having demons", does this mean drugs, alcoholism, thefts, chronic lying, p@rnography addictions? What would constitute DEMONS for a 16 year old?

Its been publicized that the father was told of the 16 year old's attack on Anna in the night when the bf, now ex bf, was watching via live cam, and that the father blew it off. I wish we knew more detail on that from the ex bf. Did he think they lied about that? Did he think that behavior was no big deal? Did he tell them to work it out between themselves?

I can imagine Anna didnt want to impose on her elderly grandparent's privacy by sleeping in their room. Quite probably, they retired for the night well before the teen kids and wouldn't have taken well to the teen's use of late night blue screen technology either.

Any ideas on the 16 year old's DEMONS? Its interesting that no friends, classmates, neighbors, soccer team mates, parents of any of those, no one, has spoken of him. Was he a ghost? Are they afraid of him? Of his mom? What's up with the total news block?
 
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  • #757
As a mom, now grandma there is no way opposite sexes are sharing a room once they hit 10- 12 years old. Even bio siblings. I grew up with a brother and had a son and daughters. Never slept in the same room. It's just not a good idea to me. Hormones , false accusations....better to keep them apart. I know others have different experiences , this is a big no for me.
I agree. Is it unlikely to happen? Thankfully, yes, but I never want to be the kind of parent who thinks "it could never happen here", the same way I don't ever want to be the person who thinks they're too smart to fall for a scam, or get sucked into a cult, or end up in an abusive relationship. Obviously in a healthy family situation you don't need to live your life as though one of your kids is going to murder the other if they're ever left alone, but I don't think complacency is the way to go, either
 
  • #758
Grandma seems very sweet but frankly the comment about no stepchildren is kablooey. I can't begin to imagine how the adults in her family could not understand how Anna and her brother might feel about being told these new kids on the block are totally equal in their eyes in all respects.

Most likely, this made it impossible for Anna to even discuss concerning issues with ANY of the adults who were supposed to protect her and look out for her best interests. Being booted to the dining room as a "bedroom" is sad but there were no alternatives it seems. Too bad it wasnt the older boys who may have needed less closet space and it was only 8 more months then they could have taken her room.

As to the 16 year old "having demons", does this mean drugs, alcoholism, thefts, chronic lying, p@rnography addictions? What would constitute DEMONS for a 16 year old?

Its been publicized that the father was told of the 16 year old's attack on Anna in the night when the bf, now ex bf, was watching via live cam, and that the father blew it off. I wish we knew more detail on that from the ex bf. Did he think they lied about that? Did he think that behavior was no big deal? Did he tell them to work it out between themselves?

I can imagine Anna didnt want to impose on her elderly grandparent's privacy by sleeping in their room. Quite probably, they retired for the night well before the teen kids and wouldn't have taken well to the teen's use of late night blue screen technology either.

Any ideas on the 16 year old's DEMONS? Its interesting that no friends, classmates, neighbors, soccer team mates, parents of any of those, no one, has spoken of him. Was he a ghost? Are they afraid of him? Of his mom? What's up with the total news block?
Or was Anna decamped to the dining room as a precieved prevention method by Chris thinking that would resolve any issues of the teen possibly lusting for Anna ?

I'm wondering was Chris so delusional that from the offset Anna was expected to share her bedroom with step teen bro and her bio brother was placed in there as a sort of barrier ? And sleeping arrangements on ship were a progression of that arrangement?

I do feel grandma saying she told the kids if there was any fighting they could come stay in her and grandpa's room was said so off the cuff because fighting was commonplace between Anna and Tim but was put down to sibling rivalry or squabbles
 
  • #759
Wasn't it the last day of their cruise? Can you decline the room being cleaned that day? (If it had occurred to him to try.)
It was their last full day. I only have one experience with being on a cruise and it was a different cruise line, but we declined housekeeping the day prior to disembarking.
 
  • #760
Watched interview with grandma and grandpa .
I do see two people very upset and answering the interviewers questions as honestly as possible from their point of view while trying not to compromise an investigation and cause a mistrial imo .

Trial by media is a very real thing and can be used by defense lawyers worldwide and i for one would not want anything interfering with justice for Anna so if Grandma has to hold back on outrightly accussing stepbro and allowing anger to take over i think she did the right thing in phrasing it the way she did . MOO and JMHO
I see Grandma more concerned about protecting stepbro and perception of the family than actual grief about Anna. JMO
 

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