FL - Anna Kepner, 18, dies aboard Carnival cruise ship traveling from Miami to Caribbean, FBI launch probe, 7 Nov 2025

  • #961
I thought Anna left dinner early because she either wasn't feeling well, or her braces hurt her (I've seen both). And the 2 boys went in to change into swimwear, with the younger leaving the room first, leaving Tim behind with Anna.
Yes Anna did go to the room during dinner firstly it was said she wasnt feeling well but ,according to her paternal grandma she was complaining of her braces hurting her but she felt better got changed and came to the casino to join grandmother ,lost 20 dollars and left .

It is after this I'm unsure of ,

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  • #962
There is then an article or interview where it is said Anna and Tim were spotted on cctv walking arm in arm AFAIK 🤔 before they went into the room .
First I've heard of them walking arm in arm. Do you have a link to your source?
 
  • #963
The thanks goes to steeltowngirl for starting the thread. :)

I guess I'm the minority because I don't have a hard time imagining something nefarious happened to her and that it might not be an accident. In fact I'd be surprised if it was an accident or from natural causes. And I'm always ready to eat my words if wrong. :)
I'm new to this site and this story caught my eye. also dont know if my response is under the correct topic. We just watched a doc about a girl who dissapeared from a cruiseship on Netf. and I thought this was about the same story but this is different. I can imagine there is some traffic going around on these ships of woman its whiped under the floor as a runaway story.
 
  • #964
For some people (not enough IMO) it's a habit, but for 3 teenagers (specifically these 3 from what I've read of their home lives)... doubt it.

The fact that it was locked with just Anna and the 16 year old inside tells me all I need to know. It was done on purpose, and not with good intentions IMO.
Fair enough.
 
  • #965
I get the very same vibes. And, he of course has the "convenient amnesia" thing going,
.tara83 said:
It's nice that everyone in the family seems more concerned about the stepbrother than the fact Anna was murdered. The more I hear about this family it's obvious she never stood a chance.
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That, above, seems to put it where it is... I guess she really never had much of a chance once they were in that stateroom...
May she rest in peace.
Grrrrr.
 
  • #966
I'm new to this site and this story caught my eye. also dont know if my response is under the correct topic. We just watched a doc about a girl who dissapeared from a cruiseship on Netf. and I thought this was about the same story but this is different. I can imagine there is some traffic going around on these ships of woman its whiped under the floor as a runaway story.
Welcome to Websleuths, @ChantNL. :)

This case is different than the Netflix doc you mentioned. Turns out her newly turned step-brother and her cabin roommate is the suspect. :(
 
  • #967
I'm new to this site and this story caught my eye. also dont know if my response is under the correct topic. We just watched a doc about a girl who dissapeared from a cruiseship on Netf. and I thought this was about the same story but this is different. I can imagine there is some traffic going around on these ships of woman its whiped under the floor as a runaway story.
Imo, a cruise ship is the absolute last place human traffickers would seek victims. They want people who won't be looked for.
 
  • #968
First I've heard of them walking arm in arm. Do you have a link to your source?
Gemmie , unfortunately I can only remember it being said either in msm newspaper or news desk interview, that's why I said someone else might remember and add a link . If you prefer I can delete my post until I find a link .

Honestly I think it's best if I do don't want to mislead 🥰
 
  • #969
The timeline is confusing. This is the best I have pieced together between what I have read and my experiences on carnival cruises. The cruise was Nov 2 -8. They said she left dinner not feeling well which would have been on Thursday November 6. It would have been an elegant night and dinner service runs from 530 to 930. So I am guessing she left the table somewhere between 7 am 8 pm. The boys probably followed within a half hour or so. The 14 year old left the cabin and she was in bed at that time. He likely went to the kids area Club Ocean. The curfew for is 1 am. If he left the room around 9 to 10 pm that leaves a 3 plus hour window of time for the 16 year old to do whatever happened. when the 14 year old returned he thought AK likely woke up and went out. Being as she was 18 she did not fall under the same curfew like he does. So he went to bed. It was at breakfast that they all realized she was "missing". I read CK (dad) was looking for her when he heard a medical emergency announcement for the room after the room steward found her body. Which the 1117 am timeline makes sense for the time of death that was put out. That would be the busiest times of the stewards cleaning the rooms. That Friday was officially the last day of the cruise. On Saturday morning they would have been arriving in Miami and had to be out of their cabins by 830 am and off the ship usually by 10 am. The media has put out some confusing info.
I have a lot of catching up to do on this thread. I did however wonder if the feeling ill at dinner was an excuse and A had arranged to meet up with someone and it went bad?
Now to read on
IMO
 
  • #970
I have a lot of catching up to do on this thread. I did however wonder if the feeling ill at dinner was an excuse and A had arranged to meet up with someone and it went bad?
Now to read on
IMO
I hate to spoil the ending but... it's said that it was her step-brother that did it.
 
  • #971
I have a lot of catching up to do on this thread. I did however wonder if the feeling ill at dinner was an excuse and A had arranged to meet up with someone and it went bad?
Now to read on
IMO

Easy to imagine an 18 year wanting to round her age up on a cruise. Dinners can take a long two hours. Maybe she wanted extra time -- and the co-ed room to herself -- to shower and dress. Leaving dinner early might have been her only way to have privacy. Dinner was maybe the ONLY time that the newlyweds actually babysat their own children, keeping the minors at the table.

I wouldn't feel comfortable dressing and undressing and showering in a tiny statesroom with two teen boys outside the tiny door, especially as a teen.

What an unfair position she was put in.

I still want to see how the cabins were registered.

JMO
 
  • #972
I just watched the interview with the ex bf and she was apparently awake. He says the step bro ran off when he yelled at him.
He also said he was supposed to go on the cruise but they broke up. Call me a fuddy duddy, but these "adults" don't seem to be good chaperones.

If I was Anna's father, the step brother suspect would have to be locked up where I couldn't get to him.
Why? the father (using the word loosely) is equally to blame imo
 
  • #973

Much the same info but new link none the less

Edited to add

Why are the newspapers reporting that it is unknown if her death was an overdose or medical episode surely if she was wrapped in a blanket and concealed with life jackets it indicates someone hid her there ??
 
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  • #974

Much the same info but new link none the less

Edited to add

Why are the newspapers reporting that it is unknown if her death was an overdose or medical episode surely if she was wrapped in a blanket and concealed with life jackets it indicates someone hid her there ??

The date that was published was Nov 20th, prior to the autopsy report being released.
 
  • #975
If the door was deadbolted shut that will be the deciding factor on whether it will be a murder or manslaughter charge I would imagine and most likely will be how the prosecution will argue intent
Unless that is the only way to lock the cabin door. Locking the door would be a natural thing to do, pretty much automatic. So was the deadbolt locking beyond a normal locking mechanism and procedure? I would wonder about that before assuming anything.
 
  • #976
The 14 year old, apparently went back to the room? And slept in there with the 16 year old? With his dead sister under the bed? I am interested in the timeline after Anna went "missing".

After all, the 14 YO heard the altercation. And then, Anna went "Missing"? Then she was found by the maid the next morning under the bed? Did the 2 boys sleep in that room together that night? Or did the 14 YO tell his father about the altercation? It seems to me that the 14 YO is a significant witness. If not the only witness that corroborates the video evidence. And can testify about the locked door, dead bolted. And the sound of the altercation.
 
  • #977
Looking at this picture of a Carnival Horizon door from a Youtube cabin review, it appears there's a mechanical deadbolt lock handle visible below the door lever you can turn from the inside. I imagine it works like a hotel where the door locks anytime you close, but there's an additional mechanical deadbolt you can lock from the inside turn to prevent anyone else with a keycard from entering.

They'll be a "super master key" or some other way to override this in case someone overdoses in the room with it internally locked but access to this is extremely tightly controlled. I followed a hotel owner that had a blog, and he said that not even the manager on duty knows where the "super master" key is hidden on site; if a manager calls him needing the location his first question would be "have the police arrived yet?"

JMO- you'd lock it for extra security if everyone is in the room for the night and you're ready fo bed, but if there's another person out that needs to come back in, it makes no sense to lock it as you'd have to get up and let them in rather than just allowing them to let themselves in with their key.
 

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  • #978
JMO- you'd lock it for extra security if everyone is in the room for the night and you're ready fo bed, but if there's another person out that needs to come back in, it makes no sense to lock it as you'd have to get up and let them in rather than just allowing them to let themselves in with their key.

My thoughts as well.

I’ve been on many cruises. The ones I’ve been on, between Costa long ago, and Celebrity and Royal Caribbean and Carnival, have had doors equivalent to what you’d find in a hotel.

The door automatically locks behind you after you’ve entered. If one of the occupants has not yet returned to the room, you would not typically turn the deadbolt because then the final occupant would be unable to enter with the keycard. Nor would general staff be able to enter.

So, I agree, that deadbolt was locked so that no one else could come in.

In light of the murder of Anna and the attempt to stash her body out of sight, I do think that shows prior intent on the part of TH.

I suppose the defense, if it goes to trial, could say that TH threw the deadbolt for some other reason, but to my mind it is evidence of a) intent OR b) consciousness of guilt after the fact.

It certainly belies any notion that TH was looking to get help for her.

JMO and experience.
 
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  • #979
Those are some serious allegations the father of her ex-BF made about the step-brother. Like... HUGE! And after that they shared a cabin??? You don't mix teen boys and girls unchaperoned together! At least I wouldn't recommend it. It's asking for trouble, and I wasn't talking about the kind of trouble that came out of this shared room situation. JMO

There are four adults, five kids and three cabins. It could be so easily organized by the rules.
 
  • #980
Looking at this picture of a Carnival Horizon door from a Youtube cabin review, it appears there's a mechanical deadbolt lock handle visible below the door lever you can turn from the inside. I imagine it works like a hotel where the door locks anytime you close, but there's an additional mechanical deadbolt you can lock from the inside turn to prevent anyone else with a keycard from entering.

They'll be a "super master key" or some other way to override this in case someone overdoses in the room with it internally locked but access to this is extremely tightly controlled. I followed a hotel owner that had a blog, and he said that not even the manager on duty knows where the "super master" key is hidden on site; if a manager calls him needing the location his first question would be "have the police arrived yet?"

JMO- you'd lock it for extra security if everyone is in the room for the night and you're ready fo bed, but if there's another person out that needs to come back in, it makes no sense to lock it as you'd have to get up and let them in rather than just allowing them to let themselves in with their key.
Hi
Can you please source your photo?
Thanks
Tricia
 

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