GUILTY FL - Astronaut Lisa Nowak arrested in kidnap attempt, 5 Feb 2007

[curious1]

The rubber tubing would function well as a tourniquet, used to prevent excessive bleeding, while she severed the limbs by malleting the knife through the joints, until she managed to get the severed limbs, and torso, into all those plastic bags.

Not that you thought anything like this through, right?

Should I be worried? Think maybe I'll take my city and state off my profile.

 

[Smurf]

the 2 pics would "appear" to be very very different, meth would sound like a good reason, but she is active in NASA, so I am having trouble believing in a drug problem, even hard for me to understand how an emotional problem would go undetected?

Pro athletes do it all the time and get away with it even with drug testing people who know what to look for all around all the time. Maybe Nasa doesn't normally have astronauts with meth or drug problems so she fell through the cracks so to speak. You know how addicts lie and always get their way so she could have manipulated her way out of a drug test or psych. evaluation as of late.

 

[Smurf]

Shipman's plane landed sometime around midnight so maybe the parking garage was fairly empty at that time? Novak may have figured she'd try to grab Shipman in the parking garage because of the element of suprise.

The fact that it was midnight would make me think Shipman would have been more cautious and watching her surroundings when going from shuttle to car in a garage or whatever than she would have in broad daylight. How could she not feel uncomfortable with this tweaky looking woman in a wig and trench coat (sometimes you can tell when someone is wearing a wig) riding your shuttle and then getting off at your same stop. What a frightful night CS must have had. She is lucky indeed.

 

[englishleigh]

There are already jokes being made about this, on the news, no less:

Q. How long does it take to drive from Houston to Orlando?

A. It Depends.

 

[PaperDoll]

There are already jokes being made about this, on the news, no less:

Q. How long does it take to drive from Houston to Orlando?

A. It Depends.

Oh my... hehe:crazy:

 

[Smurf]

Oh my... hehe:crazy:

I wonder if Jay Leno will do a monologue tonight.

 

[nanandjim]

Shipman's plane landed sometime around midnight so maybe the parking garage was fairly empty at that time? Novak may have figured she'd try to grab Shipman in the parking garage because of the element of suprise.

I would think that no one would be around at 3 a.m. Didn't I read that she got off the plane around 1 a.m. and had to wait 2 hours for her luggage?? That doesn't make sense to me unless she was filing a claim for lost luggage. It seems to me that Nowak would have been able to use the BB gun (pretending it was a real weapon) to accost her as she was putting her luggage in her trunk. If she had no luggage, she could have immediately gotten into her car, which would not have given Nowak enough time to grab her. Therefore, she had to pretend to have lost her car or whatever she said. Whatever the scenario, Connie Shipman is one lucky lady. God was watching over her that night. I now wonder what will be the status of Connie's and the guy's relationship. Perhaps, this will bring them closer. I guess that we will see...

I think that I read that Nowak had a couple of emails as well as a letter from Shipman to whatshisname professing her love. I wonder if she hacked his account and stole the letter from his mailbox. In essence, I am wondering if she has been stalking this guy for a while or if she was over at his home and stole the emails/letters that way.

 

[PaperDoll]

I wonder if Jay Leno will do a monologue tonight.

Oh I'm sure he won't be able to pass this one up... :laugh:

 

[Linda7NJ]

:loser: She thought she covered her a$$ ( lol) , she thought she'd get away with it......

 

[Mabel]

I wonder if Jay Leno will do a monologue tonight.

More likely he'll do it tomorrow since the show is filmed early in the day.

 

[ljwf22]

More likely he'll do it tomorrow since the show is filmed early in the day.

It tapes at 4:30 Pacific Time, so 7:30 Eastern.

 

[Mabel]

It tapes at 4:30 Pacific Time, so 7:30 Eastern.

Thanks! So there's plenty of time to work it into the monologue then.

 

[englishleigh]

Live court hearing on Fox News right now....defense atty. arguing the "add-on" charge.

 

[panthera]

Live court hearing on Fox News right now....defense atty. arguing the "add-on" charge.

I've got it on also. This is a very strange case so far, and I can't help wonder if she does have an undiagnosed mental problem.

 

[englishleigh]

I've got it on also. This is a very strange case so far, and I can't help wonder if she does have an undiagnosed mental problem.

I think she probably does. Might have been something that the battery of pre-flight tests never diagnosed, that was only set off when she apparently became obsessed with this astronaut and his relationship with this other female. Very sad situation.

 

[panthera]

I think she probably does. Might have been something that the battery of pre-flight tests never diagnosed, that was only set off when she apparently became obsessed with this astronaut and his relationship with this other female. Very sad situation.

I read some other posts here and don't think it's drug use, since NASA would be checking this regularly. It is very sad since she has three children who are now going to have to go through this ordeal.

 

[englishleigh]

I read some other posts here and don't think it's drug use, since NASA would be checking this regularly. It is very sad since she has three children who are now going to have to go through this ordeal.

Do we know how old her children are?

 

[panthera]

Do we know how old her children are?

Her NASA biography doesn't mention their ages.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2007/02/06/3540878.html

 

[panthera]

Latest update after Nowak's court appearance~

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16997958

Bail was set at $25,000 and Nowak must wear a GPS monitoring device.

 

[WhiteWolf]

I would think that no one would be around at 3 a.m. Didn't I read that she got off the plane around 1 a.m. and had to wait 2 hours for her luggage?? That doesn't make sense to me unless she was filing a claim for lost luggage. It seems to me that Nowak would have been able to use the BB gun (pretending it was a real weapon) to accost her as she was putting her luggage in her trunk. If she had no luggage, she could have immediately gotten into her car, which would not have given Nowak enough time to grab her. Therefore, she had to pretend to have lost her car or whatever she said. Whatever the scenario, Connie Shipman is one lucky lady. God was watching over her that night. I now wonder what will be the status of Connie's and the guy's relationship. Perhaps, this will bring them closer. I guess that we will see...

I think that I read that Nowak had a couple of emails as well as a letter from Shipman to whatshisname professing her love. I wonder if she hacked his account and stole the letter from his mailbox. In essence, I am wondering if she has been stalking this guy for a while or if she was over at his home and stole the emails/letters that way.

Did you listen to the second hearing today? I thought it was said Nowak obtained information about Shipman from BO's computer without his permission, but I don't know if that means hacking his email or taking the info directly from his computer.

I wonder what the testimony was that the DA didn't want to reveal in court to support raising the charges to attempted murder?

I'm glad the judge added a larger bond and more protection for Shipman with regards to the GPS tracking device for Nowak.