FL FL - Austin Stephanos & Perry Cohen, both 14, Jupiter, 24 July 2015 - #1

[Hiandmighty]

It was an Outboard 2 stroke...115 hp

Uugh! Old, unreliable engine!!!!

 

[Hiandmighty]

Ok, I'm officially off the fb page. Some psychic has posted that a dolphin is bringing fish to Austin to keep him alive.

If that is the board with the find the two boys names, someone also suggested all paddle board companies lend all paddleboards to the search effort... Cause, you know, i suppose the boys are in sight of land and the paddleboarders will rescue them.

 

[Inspector Gidget]

Ok, I'm officially off the fb page. Some psychic has posted that a dolphin is bringing fish to Austin to keep him alive.

Mmm sounds like she has been to SeaWorld one too many times!

 

[Dockins]

I'd go to the ends of the earth to try to find my kid, so I won't criticize them for trying the same, but I draw the line at nonsense, IMO. I understand the criticism, but I also understand a parent's desperation to get their child home. I think the 'visions' have led resources away from the more likely locations. All IMHO.

 

[Hiandmighty]

I Think it is working how it should. The CG has suspended rescue and the family is funding a few more days of search.

The boys are lost at sea. It doesnt matter that they could swim before they walked and have salt water in their blood. They are lost at sea and presumed drowned. This story plays out over and over again with the sea. The sea is not at fault. The boys headed out when everyone else was coming in. It was a poor judgement call; they probably assumed the storm would pass quickly because when your brain hasnt yet developed the part where consequences are well thought out, that is what happens.

I'll say it: RIP Austin and Perry. I hope you didn't suffer.

My heart goes out to their families. No doubt this has been a harrowing week for them.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

[video=youtu;tF3THJKlsAk]http://youtu.be/tF3THJKlsAk[/video]

Phenomenal footage taken by a drone slightly south of where the boys went. Notice the incredible amount of **sharks**--check out the 4:30 minute mark!

Surreal!

 

[Hiandmighty]

People are signing 4 and 5 times on the petition. I wont say more...

 

[NCsleuther]

I stripped the link out because I'm THAT against this. What a slap in the face to the hundreds of people that worked 24/7 for a WEEK to find those boys. This makes me so angry...I've been stewing on this, watching this link being plastered all over my FB feed by friends, etc. and I've held my tongue. After the absolute MESS that group created yesterday with those altered buoy pictures and hundreds of calls to the USCG about them.... I'm livid.



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Altered buoy pictures? Are you saying the picture everyone is talking about on fb (I haven't seen it so I have no idea, just been reading along) is fake?

 

[Elainera]

respectfully snipped for space

Also just want to add that I can understand the Coast Guard needing to call off the search by now. I started to think about what it would take to free float with just a life jacket on and I realized that you have to constantly do some treading of the water to keep your head up and keep from gulping down sea water.

Whenever the waves would get even a little rough it would mean that you would be bobbing around and unless you do some treading, you would probably constantly be dunked every now and then. Especially if the waves got rough again.

Even on the calmest of seas I dont think you can just hang there without expending a little effort with your arms and legs.

So started to realize that after a few days of that exhaustion would take over and you could not physically be able to take it. You would likely give up and begin to get dunked under and have a few bad swallows of salt water and after a few of those it would basically be the end. Sorry to be so graphic but starting to realize that the Coast Guard is right with their estimates of how long someone can handle it free floating with a life vest.

Another factor is sleep deprivation. You can't go without sleep for a week. I suppose if they were together they could take turns holding each others head while one has a nap but even that wouldn't be enough after a few days. Sleep deprivation makes you feel like you're drunk or crazy.

No sleep, water, or food, exhaustion, sunburn, etc ... all these factors taken together make it highly, HIGHLY unlikely they are still floating somewhere alive.

Here's a Gulf Stream current map from today, you can see where it curves east out to sea.

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Thank you for this picture!

What is the colored bar on the right side? Speed?

Altered buoy pictures? Are you saying the picture everyone is talking about on fb (I haven't seen it so I have no idea, just been reading along) is fake?

Not totally fake. The original buoy pictures were 'enhanced' to get a better look at what appeared to be some floating objects.

 

[WhiskeyBent]

Altered buoy pictures? Are you saying the picture everyone is talking about on fb (I haven't seen it so I have no idea, just been reading along) is fake?

No, there were pictures from that buoy. Just not the ones that got plastered all over creation. It's really a long story, but I'll do my best to cut the fluff out.

ok. The East Hatteras NOAA Buoy Station 41001 is "The Buoy". It's 150 nautical miles east of Cape Hatteras. It takes a strip of pictures going all the way around it every hour, at 10 after. The most recent pictures are displayed on the homepage for the buoy, and changed when new pics are taken. If you want to see older pictures, you can change the file name in the url of the actual picture file. If you just go to the page, you'll only see the current picture.

Someone posted the link to the buoy's homepage on the group asking for some extra eyes on the first picture in the set at 2:10pm. (18:10Z). I saw the post before it had any comments, and I looked at the pictures. Yes there was something in image 1, and I also noticed something in image 5 that she didn't see. 5 minutes later, I'd told her to save both pictures and the direct link to the file, and notify USCG. She did, and edited her top post that they had been notified.

Then the pictures updated on the buoy homepage that was linked in her post, and we're no longer the pictures we discussed. There was nothing in the 19:10Z set and I've looked numerous times. This is where the problem started. Evidently nobody that looked could see anything...cause there was nothing there... and they started zooming, putting tinted filters on them, adjusting the color saturation, polarizing... Any photo effect you can think of, they did it. With the added bonus of using MS Paint to outline what *they thought* they saw, and leading other people to "see" the same thing. Then these altered pictures got spread all over Facebook. I say "altered" because they were almost unrecognizable when compared to their originals straight off the buoy. (That had nothing in them) there were 6 or 7 new posts with the altered pictures in them in the first few minutes, all with 1000 comments each.

Then the phone calls to the USCG started. The comments were moving so fast- 20-30 comments at a time - and nobody was reading any of them. They were raging that "no one has reported these?? Omg that's a BODY! I'm calling right now!!". This caused the USCG to field countless phone calls over the span of 7 hours when they finally made a statement that the pictures were unrelated at 10pm; and the pictures got deleted every time they were posted.

They kept posting them. In every single post they saw, they commented with them. Everywhere. When the statement was released, they were "shocked that the CG didn't even LOOK!"...when they were still investigating. 2 Helos and a cutter were sent to the buoy after the first report, but the cutter wasn't there yet. I don't know whether they found the 2 things that were in the original pictures her and I saw something in, but if they did; it was obviously not related, or none of the public's business. There were more phone calls throughout the night, "checking on the progress"...really?

So, long story long, that's how a FB lynch mob was born.

(No, I cannot source any of this as it was my personal experience or relayed to me by a USCG contact I'm not naming.)

 

[T4Tide]

Ok, I'm officially off the fb page. Some psychic has posted that a dolphin is bringing fish to Austin to keep him alive.

Allllllllrighty then. :cuckoo:

 

[Hiandmighty]

I Have no doubt that happened.

 

[T4Tide]

[video=youtu;tF3THJKlsAk]http://youtu.be/tF3THJKlsAk[/video]

Phenomenal footage taken by a drone slightly south of where the boys went. Notice the incredible amount of **sharks**--check out the 4:30 minute mark!

Surreal!

Can anyone tell me the name of this video? My phone has started to deny YouTube links from WS.....I have no idea why.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Looks like "shark season singer island florida"

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

Can anyone tell me the name of this video? My phone has started to deny YouTube links from WS.....I have no idea why.

Just google "Drone captures sharks over Singer Island" by Cyberspeed 2.tv made in March, 2014

 

[T4Tide]

Thanks. I don't know why it's started doing that.

OT: Through this search it appears the water in the Atlantic is prettier than I remember it from my one Daytona trip years ago. Just missing that sugar white sand from the panhandle.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

Ok, I'm officially off the fb page. Some psychic has posted that a dolphin is bringing fish to Austin to keep him alive.

Wait! They must have heard about the account. Just joking. Things are getting crazy!

 

[Sulamith]

[video=youtu;tF3THJKlsAk]http://youtu.be/tF3THJKlsAk[/video]

Phenomenal footage taken by a drone slightly south of where the boys went. Notice the incredible amount of **sharks**--check out the 4:30 minute mark!

Surreal!

That was a beautiful video!

 

[Sulamith]

Ok, I'm officially off the fb page. Some psychic has posted that a dolphin is bringing fish to Austin to keep him alive.

Would that dolphin be Flipper?

 

[mrsu]

I am just curious if anybody saw the post on the FB page where a lady had said that she was sure she saw these 2 boys while she and her husband were out fishing? She said she had contacted police but say it was out of the inlet and to the south. She said she had a conversation with the "blonde" boy who was driving the boat about fishing. They stayed in that spot for awhile and then went further south.

I'm sure kids out on boats are a dime a dozen but it did raise my curiosity. Didn't seem like a troll. Is it possible they could have been a bit south but the boat capsized and rushed north very quickly with the storm and Gulf Stream??

Also, is it possible someone could be out past the Gulf Stream capsize, and still end up in the stream? Would the waves push the boat back towards the shore and then it get sucked into the Gulf Stream? One last question, south of the inlet, is there a Gulf Stream and how far out?

Thanks!