Identified! FL - Big Cypress Natl Preserve, Male Hiker, Denim & “Mostly Harmless” July 2018 - Vance Rodriguez

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With Adam the scar on cheek could be hidden by the beard/moustache, however the Sheriff's dept has reported only one faint scar on Harmless on his stomach Adam has a circular scar on his back. I have seen where some departments will hold back information for identification purposes.
 
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So far the only rule on on NAMUS is Glen Oldfield, however the Sheriff fb has directly responded on several suggestions on their page saying -- " That is not the decedent".
Most of these responses are found here: Collier County Sheriff's Office

I'm going to work on compiling a list from the fb page so that we don't keep repeating suggestions LE have already ruled out:

Ruled out:
Glen Oldfield (ruled out on UID's NAMUS page)
Kyle Leigh Art
Robert Wayne Roush
Jeffrey Alan Boughton
Michael Robinson
Joel Matthew Thompson
Kris Fowler
Trevor Nichols

Other MP's suggested on fb page (but Sheriff has not replied yet):
David William Blake
Joshua Wellman (a family member did reply that this is not him)
Joshua Scott
Eric Daniel Prueitt
Christopher King
Bradley Allen (a family member replied it is not him)
Shane Michael Fell
Patrick Lee Ghering
Derek Lueking (his mother replied it is not him)

Thank you so much for making a list! This makes it way easier to look for possible missing persons. Also, I’m amazed Jeffrey Alan Boughton is a rule-out. I had never heard of him before but after looking up his picture, I was struck by how similar they look. He has the same kindness in his eyes. I hope his family will find out what happened to him.

With Adam the scar on cheek could be hidden by the beard/moustache, however the Sheriff's dept has reported only one faint scar on Harmless on his stomach Adam has a circular scar on his back. I have seen where some departments will hold back information for identification purposes.

I’m pretty sure they shaved off his beard and hair during the autopsy to look for marks or scars. If not, they will at least have looked closely at the skin hidden underneath. But I agree and think they definitely might ve withholding information. His cause of death, for example.
 
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@RickshawFan

Couldn’t his shoes be that worn down by wearing them for over a year and hiking in them?
Yes. But they might already have been used. Many hikers abandon their footwear, either because they’re “done” or because, though new, they don’t fit well. I once bought a pair of all but new Salomon’s for $5 at a hostel.

I didn’t want to eliminate this possibility from our collective thinking.
 
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Where is his pack? Cooking utensils? None of these things have bee mentioned.
 
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There have been several messages doubting the UID Adam Patterson (Namus ID 42783 at link: Missing Person's Commentary: New to NamUs - Adam Christopher Patterson (MP #42783)) but I am new and got a little carried away. I have found some additional info and pictures that I couldn’t ignore - some of which is admittedly very circumstantial.

Can anyone who has submitted the name to Collier please confirm? I am not really comfortable doing so like some of you more experienced users. Some of you also may quickly be able to debunk my findings.

Here are some photos for comparison:
Mostly Harmless: Imgur
Mostly Harmless collage: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachments/adfdff76-9b0d-41e6-af3d-7b5c081946d1-jpeg.143471/
Adam Patterson: Imgur

Of interest to me:
1. AP has very little social media presence - followed less than 100 accounts - but did follow many android/microsoft/google app development accounts - although his professional life did not seem to use it (captain of charter boat/water taxi)
2. Followed a “big” developer from Brooklyn NY, first name Ben, last name not with a B
3. He and most all of his friends are VERY into hiking and camping (several started lifestyle brands in the industry). Can find several trips he was on but not ususally in pictures. Did not see any of the same gear from Mostly Harmless, but that is expected based on the nature of his disappearance
4. There was no visible drop off in normal activity prior to his disappearance other than the news article that said there were marriage “problems” 10 days before disappearance. Was involved in big projects and normal work.
5. Strangely - none of his close friends posted any sort of concern about his disappearance or memorial type stuff. Several, including SO, were out camping with friends just days after.
6. One close family member, 6 months after his disappearance, made a post about going through hard times and asked “What would anyone do if they knew they only had 365 days left to live? Would you tell loved ones, act like nothing was happening, or make a big change?”. The message does not seem to be related to anything else in their own life. (yes major assumption on my part)
7. Looks-wise, there are a few big things for me.
NOSE - The changing of the nose based on different angles - when you compare similar pics it helps. At similar angles the nostrils are very similar.
TEETH - in the pics at the link I posted, the teeth are VERY similar to the “composite”, which we know is very likely a direct photoshop of the body’s actual teeth. The Namus page also notes the quality of his teeth - a good justification for his young age (33) but his otherwise quickly changing appearance probably due to illness.
BEARD - beards are a huge tell for male identities. The pattern of where hair grows on a face does not change quickly, and more “bare” patches below the lips are a big match, as well as more filled in particular areas, like the mustache and directly below the bottom lip. The presence of a beard on his face also changes his general look pretty drastically.

Anyways, I realize a lot of this is probably just me looking for a match and I hope I didn’t break any rules. Both cases really drew me in and I feel like this community is doing a lot of good. Thanks for reading.

As far as I can tell, Patterson has reddish or auburn hair. That would immediately remove him from a list of possibles, no further analysis needed.
 
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Bumping for Denim.
 
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More pics.

Hey Booghawk can you tell me when and exactly where these 3 photos were taken? Or point me to the page where they were originally posted? I saw them on CCSO page but they were just being reposted by others, not the original source with a date/location. I'm trying to put all the photos we have in order to make a new photo based timeline. TIA if anyone can help.
 
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I just found a photo I had not seen anywhere else. In Sept 2017 he stayed at the Mountain Home Hostel in Front Royal, VA. The hostel put this photo on their page:
Mountain Home

It matches up with the photo posted earlier of him sitting at a table looking at the log book. The woman sitting with him shared other photos she had of him with the Sherrif's office (please respect her privacy and WS rules and do not sleuth her).

This must be one of the Hostels in VA where he gave the name Ben Bilemy. JMO. I'm slowly making my way through other Hostel and hiker pages looking for photos that may not have been discovered yet, however, I don't have facebook access. Will someone please post this link to the Sheriff's fb page/send it in? Although I believe LE are probably already aware of this hostel visit from the lady at the table, it may jog the memory of someone else who stayed at this hostel and talked to him.
 
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I just found a photo I had not seen anywhere else. In Sept 2017 he stayed at the Mountain Home Hostel in Front Royal, VA. The hostel put this photo on their page:
Mountain Home

It matches up with the photo posted earlier of him sitting at a table looking at the log book. The woman sitting with him shared other photos she had of him with the Sherrif's office (please respect her privacy and WS rules and do not sleuth her).

This must be one of the Hostels in VA where he gave the name Ben Bilemy. JMO. I'm slowly making my way through other Hostel and hiker pages looking for photos that may not have been discovered yet, however, I don't have facebook access. Will someone please post this link to the Sheriff's fb page/send it in? Although I believe LE are probably already aware of this hostel visit from the lady at the table, it may jog the memory of someone else who stayed at this hostel and talked to him.

Nicely done Gardener! He is looking already very fragile there...not fit...or is this just me?
 
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Photos from link

Nicely done Gardener! He is looking already very fragile there...not fit...or is this just me?

He does look small but I think it is just the way he is holding himself at the table and the fact that he doesn't have his big puffy coat on. The photos Coffee56 posted above were taken around the same time.

ETA: Opps photos didn't transfer in the quote box. Here's the one of him at the same table/same hostel:
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and I believe these two photos were also taken somewhere in Virgina while hiking with the lady who was at the table with him in the hostel photo:
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He has dark circles under his eyes in that pic. Was that the hiker with him who gave the pics to LE? Obsidian?
 
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Here's an interactive map of the AT... figured maybe this would help narrow down places he may have stayed on his journey. ArcGIS Web Application
 
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Wonderful to see that we are a team. Thanks, especially to Gardener!
 
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Wonderful to see that we are a team. Thanks, especially to Gardener!

Yes, big thanks to Gardener. As always <3

I don't know what I can offer any of you, but I'm watching in awe at all of everyones work to identify this man.
 
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Some hikers mentioned they camped with him towards the beginning of his hike at the "vistors center" in Unionville, NY. I have searched and searched and cannot figure out where exactly this visitor center is located or what kind of place it is (Hostel? Drop box pick up location? shelter? ranger station?) Does it have a website or facebook page that might have photos? TIA to anyone who can figure this out.
 
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Hey Booghawk can you tell me when and exactly where these 3 photos were taken? Or point me to the page where they were originally posted? I saw them on CCSO page but they were just being reposted by others, not the original source with a date/location. I'm trying to put all the photos we have in order to make a new photo based timeline. TIA if anyone can help.

I got them from various hiking groups, mostly comments under posts. I looked through so many posts that I would have no idea where each one was from, I'm sorry.
 
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