Identified! FL - Big Cypress Natl Preserve, Male Hiker, Denim & “Mostly Harmless” July 2018 - Vance Rodriguez

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I wonder if he had been visiting a sister in SARATOGA. It's in NY right next to Lake George/Glens Falls. Maybe that's why/how he went from Brooklyn/New Jersey to that area of New York.

If someone misheard Saratoga for Sarasota, we could be playing a huge game of telephone.
I have wondered this as well. I don't live too far from there, and every time people write Sarasota on this thread, I read it as Saratoga and then get really confused for about 20 seconds lol.
 
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Bear Mtn has a handful of cabins to rent and an Inn. Other than that there is no camping allowed. I believe Harriman state park has camping and used to have some rustic first come ,first served lean-.tos. There is also Lake Tiorati for camping.
 
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Mr. Carbuff and his friends have hiked the AT through Bear Mountain and Harriman parks. 2016, I think, so the year before MH would have been there.

There were flyers there last fall, I am told, though I did not witness it myself.

He may have been bandit camping. Because Bear Mountain is accessible from NYC, they tend to attract quite a few homeless/transient types. It's also pretty close to several towns, and across the river from Peekskill, a small city. There are summer camps and tourist facilities everywhere. In the summer, it's packed wall to wall with people. Not as busy in late spring, but lots of boy scout troops doing day or overnight hikes in the area.

There are RV camping facilities, several tent campgrounds nearby but not right at the headquarters, an inn, public restrooms and so forth--pretty much everything you'd need for extended visit. AT through hikers often stay at the inn overnight to rest, sleep in a bed, get a shower, etc. etc.

I think the map of the area has been posted before but here it is again: Google Maps
 
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This doesn't make any sense with the timeline but sometimes I think about what if everything he said was a made up story and he wasn't from New York at all? Maybe I'm just looking for and hoping to find him everywhere, but I think he looks like this Ohio man that disappeared at the Grand Canyon:
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37 year old Travis Butler (His name is spelled wrong in NAMUS as Bulter) from Ohio drove to the Grand Canyon and his car was found there Aug 1, 2017. I'm not clear on if he was actually seen there or if they just found his car on that date. He is the same height as MH. Eyes are listed as green instead of blue. I can't think of how he could have made it to the Grand Canyon and then back to the AT on foot to fit with the timeline as we know it, but the resemblance is uncanny IMO. Yes, I know it's crazy and breaks Occam's Razor but I had to share in case anyone else sees the resemblance I see and wants to send it in.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Travis M. Butler – The Charley Project

Would anyone like to help out on Travis' thread and try to find some more photos and info on his disappearance? Not much info there:
AZ - AZ - Travis Butler, 37, Tusayan, 1 Aug 2017
 
  • #1,365
Well, a hiker catching a ride east with others hikers...sure could happen!
 
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Excuse the very rough adjustment to get the comparisons. I'm not sure I see it. Hard to say based on one photo of Travis, I haven't found any others after a quick search, though.
 
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Thanks for trying Amy. I did bit of sleuthing on familysearch.org and found a Travis Butler from Ohio who got married in 2005. I can't be completely sure it's the same Travis Butler as the missing person so I won't link the record, but if that is him I'm guessing the above photo is from his wedding. He would have been about 25 in 2005. And I think Travis looks about 25 in the photo, not 37 as he was when he went missing. Having such a dated photo makes it harder to compare to MH. I wish we could find a more recent picture. MOO.
 
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Ok I have been doing a little research and reaching out....

White Blaze Forum on MH is back up and has been cleaned up for what they believe to be cases of mistaken identity, unreliable witnesses, and contradictory accounts. Only one sighting remains and it is the very first one in Maryland...its the original and verified.

MT says he met MH at Raven Rock Shelter July 28. He noticed he was new to backpacking, was enjoying the experience, and had a heavy pack of 50-60lbs. MH had said he started the AT in New York in June.

The Pinhoti Trail Alliance fb has also been cleaned up. After speaking to detectives some posters removed their posts based on mistaken identity. At least 3 pictures remain and a few comments remain.
Date and time stamp anyone? Which pics? This is another original source.

The Crestview Florida trail angel and the last guy to see MH are also deemed reliable.

So any info that was removed from either should be deemed flimsy info even if it was cross posted. Flimsy.

I have been searching, My local (Polk County Fl) Sheriffs office posted a trail cam video some time back. It was a short video clip of a man walking in the forest..The man looked like MH...I can not find the video. They (LE) were also trying to identify whom was in the video...I believe they were sharing for a Neighboring county, but not sure...

They did identify this guy... it was someone reported missing, but not MH. Dementia related I believe.
 
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D.
 
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MT says he met MH at Raven Rock Shelter July 28. He noticed he was new to backpacking, was enjoying the experience, and had a heavy pack of 50-60lbs. MH had said he started the AT in New York in June.
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I recall this from the timeline I made. Refresh my memory though-- does MT say he called himself Mostly Harmless? Because he would have been calling himself Denim back in July 2017. That is an important distinction IMO. People who met him on the AT knew him as Denim and he used that name for all of his 2017 hiking. He was given the Mostly Harmless name somewhere in Alabama and continued to use MH in Florida.
 
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He doesn't say but I'll send him a PM and see if he wants to contribute anything else for us to beat our brains with.

I thought there were more posts by him too originally.
 
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He does say Denim.
The post was Aug 6
 
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I'm questioning the whole New York thing again. Maybe I am just discouraged at the moment. I've gotten some conflicting interpretations and due to TOS I can't post them.

The go pro video of MH. It is pretty long. Have you watched the entire thing? MH's companion doesn't have a pack. Just a tiny bag.

Does anyone know where and when the go pro was taken?
 
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I have posts from that user on two sites and he refers to him as Denim on both.
 
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I'm questioning the whole New York thing again. Maybe I am just discouraged at the moment. I've gotten some conflicting interpretations and due to TOS I can't post them.

The go pro video of MH. It is pretty long. Have you watched the entire thing? MH's companion doesn't have a pack. Just a tiny bag.

Does anyone know where and when the go pro was taken?

I'm going to watch it tomorrow with headphones in full. I didn't realize that was MH's companion.
 
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Someone he hiked with for a portion of the trip, but parted ways with before Georgia, and maybe before NC.

So if I knew when the go pro was taken I might be able to invalidate the claim that is the same person. Unless they met back up I guess.

The go pro guy is talking about a burger place... WestEnd Burgers... I'm not sure. If you get any of that let me know.
 
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Cross checking for posts, it seems ones that mention having/using a phone, and ones that say he mentioned he was sick are the two themes that have been taken down.
 
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I'm questioning the whole New York thing again. Maybe I am just discouraged at the moment. I've gotten some conflicting interpretations and due to TOS I can't post them.

The go pro video of MH. It is pretty long. Have you watched the entire thing? MH's companion doesn't have a pack. Just a tiny bag.

Does anyone know where and when the go pro was taken?

The Go Pro video was taken on the AT near the top of Springer Mountain GA on Dec 4, 2017. Here's the link on the CCSO page: Collier County Sheriff's Office

I was under the impression the other person in the video is the companion of the man wearing the go pro camera, but I don't know why I thought that.
 
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Springer Mountain, the guy that spent some time with MH there definitely said he was hiking alone.

Hmm.
 
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