FL FL - Boca Raton, WhtFem UP1107, 20-35, possibly Joy Neubauer, Nov'96

[GatorFL]

I know we're hoping on forensic DNA at this point. Any chance she said Neubacher? Perhaps she was mumbling at the time or someone misspelled it?

The BRPD has set up their own internal forensic DNA unit and I know they consulted with the best.

I've long thought the responding officer who spoke with her could have misspelled her name. However, he also took her DOB so there's also the possibility he had her spell it out.

 

[Sweetluv]

Bump!

 

[WonderPony]

Hi everyone - I did a full Florida search for Joy and Joyce - which I find two (I do not find the Joy in St. Cloud in any official records). However, everything is AFTER the date of death. I DO think that a few of the missing in Namus could be a match and they are NOT exclusions. I wonder if they "hold back" information to verify someone is the person they are looking for (they referring to law enforcement or medical) like a tattoo or scar or injury. check out MP2338 MP96757 MP9685

 

[WonderPony]

Also, looking at the obituary above, Lorraine Von Klock who may be the mentioned Joy Neubauer's mother, she is showing as still alive. You would also need to search for siblings and look at Joy's maiden name which I am ASSUMING is Cason (step child Chris Cason is listed with her as well, Joy is a step child not biological). Doing some more "leg work" now.

 

[WonderPony]

I dont think the Joy mentioned in the obituary would be her. Teresa Joy Cason was married in 1997 after UP was already dead. This lady has the same maiden name as the other step siblings listed in the obituary for Nicholas Von Klock :9

 

[GatorFL]

Hi everyone - I did a full Florida search for Joy and Joyce - which I find two (I do not find the Joy in St. Cloud in any official records). However, everything is AFTER the date of death. I DO think that a few of the missing in Namus could be a match and they are NOT exclusions. I wonder if they "hold back" information to verify someone is the person they are looking for (they referring to law enforcement or medical) like a tattoo or scar or injury. check out MP2338 MP96757 MP9685

The original detective found every Joy Neubauer in the USA and confirmed them all as living. So it has to be an alias.

Joy has DNA in CODIS so any MP that has DNA is an automatic rule out and they don't typically publish these as exclusions.

MP2338, definite no. Joy didn't have any hardware in her leg and Connie Williams did. Also not no resemblance.

MP96757 definite no. Kathy Wilson looks nothing like Joy.

MP9685 definite no. Dawn Solensky looks nothing like Joy and is 9" shorter.

JMO

 

[Sweetluv]

Bump!

 

[Sweetluv]

Genetic Genealogy may be the key to this case. I hope we know her name in the near future.

 

[phantomstrider]

Genetic Genealogy may be the key to this case. I hope we know her name in the near future.

I agree. I believe any case can be solved as long as there is dna.

 

[GatorFL]

Genetic Genealogy may be the key to this case. I hope we know her name in the near future.

I have called a few times but have not connected with anybody to see how Boca's internal genetic genealogy unit is coming along.

 

[Sweetluv]

Unidentified since November 1996...

 

[rylie113]

Always thinking about this case. Any thoughts on Heather Joanne Miller?

 

[Tired Professor]

Always thinking about this case. Any thoughts on Heather Joanne Miller?

They seem to have the same mouth and cheekbones. Nose and eyebrows are similar too. I’d say it’s worth sending in for sure. If you do, please let us know if you hear anything back.

 

[GatorFL]

Always thinking about this case. Any thoughts on Heather Joanne Miller?

I have Joy's death photo, not even a close resemblance to Heather.

 

[Sweetluv]

@GatorFL....since you have seen the death photo, do you feel this sketch is of true likeness to Joy? Anything you would add or change to the sketch?

 

[Caring1]

I have Joy's death photo, not even a close resemblance to Heather.

What do you think about the below photos in comparison to the pm photo? Just curious.

 

[GatorFL]

@GatorFL....since you have seen the death photo, do you feel this sketch is of true likeness to Joy? Anything you would add or change to the sketch?

Yes, it was a good sketch for 1996. The image you posted is a scan from a newspaper, the original which I have seen is much sharper. I even met the original sketch artist, John McMahon.

 

[GatorFL]

What do you think about the below photos in comparison to the pm photo? Just curious.

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The latest sketch by Autumn Krick is perfect, she's a detective at PBSO and did Joy's sketch after I spoke with her. Keep in mind she also had all the death photos and autopsy photos to work from.

The POI you're posting looks nothing like Joy. Eyes too far apart, nose wrong, cheeks wrong. It ain't her. IMO.

 

[Caring1]

The latest sketch by Autumn Krick is perfect, she's a detective at PBSO and did Joy's sketch after I spoke with her. Keep in mind she also had all the death photos and autopsy photos to work from.

The POI you're posting looks nothing like Joy. Eyes too far apart, nose wrong, cheeks wrong. It ain't her. IMO.

Good to know. Thanks so much.

 

[Sweetluv]

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