GUILTY FL - Calyx, 16, & Beau Schenecker, 13, shot to death, Tampa, 27 Jan 2011 #2

[popsicle]

Gloria Gomez, FOX 13 ‏@ggome13 1m
FDLE crime lab expert holding up #JulieSchenecker gun that she used to kill her kids say pros.

 

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Gloria Gomez, FOX 13 ‏@ggome13 41s
Gun expert says #JulieSchenecker gun can not be accidentally fired. Pros trying to show gun didn't go off by accident.

 

[Rhozwen]

*BBM*
Possibly Parker and the kids (or Parkers Mom) did the decorating and gift shopping.

Hmm..good point. I didn't think of that.

 

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Court Chatter TV ‏@CourtChatterTV 22s
Revolver cannot be accidentally fired according to Jessoy. Needs 8.25 lbs of pressure to fire it. #JulieSchenecker

 

[zoey]

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PHOTO: Crime lab analyst demonstrating how to load, fire the gun #JulieSchenecker used. #ScheneckerTrial http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bm9x7VdCIAExqhL.png

 

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Gloria Gomez, FOX 13 ‏@ggome13 53s
Here's the gun used to kill Beau and Caylx #Schenecker. Gotta be hard 4 Parker Schenecker to see that weapon. pic.twitter.com/FThwpZK5Wv

 

[zoey]

going over definition of hollow point bullet and how damaging it is ---def "judge may we approach"----

 

[Rhozwen]

Pros. question: What is a hollow point?

Gun Expert: "A hollow Point is a bullet that has the center portion of the nose cut out. the purpose of it is to mushroom or expand on contact."

Pros. question: "If I understand the purpose of it is to make a bigger hole?"

Gun Expert: "Correct."

Defense: Objection - Side Bar

 

[zoey]

how come she isn't allowed her coat back in holding cell?????

 

[Rhozwen]

Lunch break - be back at 1:45 pm EST

 

[Rhozwen]

how come she isn't allowed her coat back in holding cell?????

Perhaps she's on suicide watch? She could hang herself with it.

 

[Chelly]

how come she isn't allowed her coat back in holding cell?????

I believe the jacket is removed to more comfortably affix the handcuffs which are then removed in the holding cell. She is most likely given the jacket back then. She would be monitored in the holding cell.

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

Wanna see the difference the hollow point makes?

http://www.thehatchreport.com/video/hollow-point-vs-round-point-bullet.html

 

[turaj]

put on wrong forum

 

[Whiteorchids]

In the motion posted up above in the wrongful death suit, Julie claimed her husband did nothing to help her and left her alone, sick, and unable to parent her children.

By not allowing communication with her own husband, she made it impossible to adequately help her. By not allowing the doctors to communicate, she was able to compartmentalize her care.

Dealing with severe mental illness is a collaborative effort between the medical community, the family and the patient. Her family and her doctors all knew about her mental illness, so no stigma involved here. Not allowing this collaborative effort permits the severely mentally ill patient to say whatever he/she wants with no other POV.

If she really wanted to get better, she would have included all concerned about her treatment to help her.

She wanted all the control. She wanted all the attention. She seems narcissistic to the nth degree. It's all about her and her illness. Anyone who doesn't enable her (husband, children) are tossed out the door.

All MOO, IMHO, etc.

According to emails JS was in a mental hospital for 9 months, shorter stays other times including rehab. She was on a ton of pills along with booze. She had a long mental health history.

CPS was called to the home for JS back-handing Calyx across the face a few times while she (calyx) was driving. The kids were afraid to drive with her because of her recent accident and that she drives intoxicated with pills and booze.

I am baffled as to why on earth did CPS clear her to continue caring for the children? Do they not investigate, have access to mental health care records or health history? If they would have taken the children they might be alive today.

 

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 1m
Video from the morning session of #JulieSchenecker is on the site! http://thetrialdiaries.wordpress.com/trials-after-dark …

 

[Abigail]

I don't think an insane person would feel remorse. That won't work in her favor. imo

A pathological murderer would not be likely to feel remorse. They'd continue on with the rest of their day as if nothing happened. But there's other types of mental illness, where a person may engage in actions of violence, but feel remorse immediately afterward.

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

A pathological murderer would not be likely to feel remorse. They'd continue on with the rest of their day as if nothing happened. But there's other types of mental illness, where a person may engage in actions of violence, but feel remorse immediately afterward.

Abigial, I'm not sure I understand what a pathological murderer has to do with the difference between mental illness and insanity?

 

[popsicle]

Yes but mental illness does not automatically = insane. She has plead NGRI.

 

[Whiteorchids]

It's too bad PS didn't make some kind of serious threat to JS maybe take the kids away and leave her or maybe throw her out in the streets if she didn't sign the consent/ medical release of information form.

When she got in her DUI accident PS wouldn't let her drive, made her stay in a hotel and when she got out he took her straight to rehab.