GUILTY FL - Calyx, 16, & Beau Schenecker, 13, shot to death, Tampa, 27 Jan 2011 #5

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Tampa Bay Times Live ‏@TBTimesLive 7m
Defense wants to introduce a text message Julie sent to a friend the night she killed the kids. State objects. #ScheneckerTrial

Tampa Bay Times Live ‏@TBTimesLive 2m
Defense says Julie wanted her friend Lisa to find the children, not Parker. #ScheneckerTrial
 
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Is it too early to take a quick vote?

Of the 30 or so members here right now, if we were on the jury, how would we vote?
What are the jury instructions, do we know?

She faces two counts of first-degree murder, a charge that carries a mandatory sentence of life in prison.

Will they include the lesser charges of 2nd degree and/or manslaughter?

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Yes guests come on in, the water's fine!
 
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Agrees that it's not uncommon for victims of sexual abuse to fear that for their children.

JS said she was uncomfortable being around men with beards because of the neighborhood man who molested her.

In the journal she indicated her reason for killing her children was to "save them" - she was afraid they'd inherit her DNA, develop bipolar, or having a mother who committed suicide

*BBM*

Can I just say that this is probably common for ANY parent?
I am sure with victims of abuse it is even worse, but when my son was younger that was one of my biggest fears (and I have never been abused in any way). I worried about teachers, coaches, anyone I didn't know well.
I wasn't uber paranoid about it but it was always in the back of my mind.

I remember I could not even watch the show about the Memphis 3 on HBO at the time it came out, because I associated it with my fears for my son and it scared the hell out of me. And made me literally sick to my stomach.

Now that he is older my worries are different....it never ends for a parent :facepalm:
 
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Guilty BARD
 
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Is it too early to take a quick vote?

Of the 30 or so members here right now, if we were on the jury, how would we vote?
What are the jury instructions, do we know?

She faces two counts of first-degree murder, a charge that carries a mandatory sentence of life in prison.

Oh, and the 54 guests, sign up now, it's fast free and easy :)

Someone posted either today or yesterday Florida's definition of 'sane'. If that is true (and I reserve my option to change my vote after I've heard jury instructions) I am leaning strongly towards guilty. I believe her to be mentally ill but I believe her to be legally sane and knew the difference between right and wrong.

Now, if the legal definition of sanity isn't 'knowing the difference' but is something else, that would change my vote.
 
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We're back. WAT is back up btw
 
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"The traditional test of insanity in criminal cases is whether the accused knew "the difference between right and wrong," following the "M'Naughten rule" from 19th century England. Most states require more sophisticated tests based on psychiatric and/or psychological testimony evaluated by a jury of laypersons or a judge without psychiatric training. "
http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=979
 
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Are the closings tomorrow?
 
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Fell into deep asleep and woke up to baseball game. So confused.
shame on me I napped...:tantrum:
 
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I am just reading here as so much of this has been asked and answered. I imagine the jury has had enough by now. Anyone else?
 
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I just read that JS's parents are sitting behind her.
 
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Fell into deep asleep and woke up to baseball game. So confused.
shame on me I napped...:tantrum:

You weren't asleep on a lanai by chance clutching a pad of Post-It Notes were you?

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the 5 or 6 episodes of psychosis that JS experienced were brief and transient, and not especially bizarre

Her episodes were sporadic, and relatively minor.
 
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