FL FL - Cathleen Martin, 28, Fort Lauderdale, 13 March 1987

  • #21
The detective who originally worked on the case of Mt. Vernon, NY Jane Doe thinks that Cathleen is a match:

http://www.lohud.com/article/201312...old-Mount-Vernon-murder-mystery-Who-Jane-Doe-

Here's the link to the websleuths thread on MV Jane Doe:

NY NY - Mount Vernon - Female 51UFNY, 18-25, Feb 1988 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

(edited by me to fix link to the Unidentified forum.)

Cathleen is a listed ruleout for the Mt Vernon Jane Doe. https://identifyus.org/en/cases/10229

28 years now.
 
  • #22
Copying this here to update the thread...
George Ossipo replied on a blog - Mount Vernon Jane Doe - October - 29 - 2014. Sent George a message on his website to give him Cathleen's & MV Jane's NamUs profiles as well as invited him to post with us.

As George says on the blog; he feels she is Cathleen & did not come up as a match because the sample was tainted. I had suggested he contact Lori Bruski to see if NamUs can help with getting her exhumed to get a fresh sample.

I do wonder if Cathleen has the large mole/ birthmark like our NamUs UP # 10229. She could be matched that way like MI - Paulette Jaster - Other distinctive physical characteristics - freckles on face under eyes , large birth mark on right front side of neck, just above the shoulder.

I emailed George while I was taking my daughter to class. I asked if Cathleen's family had more photos of her and if so; she could be ruled in/out by using the freckles/ birth mark. I gave him this article; told him he can google to get more. I looked for photos of Cathleen but haven't found any of use; they're pretty small. Also the eyebrow pattern should be of help too

Three freckles helped Texas officials identify dead woman as long-missing Davison woman By Ron Fonger | [email protected] on January 30, 2014 at 4:00 PM, updated January 30, 2014 at 4:05 PM

DAVISON, MI -- Working with no DNA or dental X-rays and an unsolved mystery more than 30 years old, forensic scientists in Texas used the common freckle to help identify a 1980 hit-and-run victim as Paulette Jaster, a woman who disappeared from Davison in 1979.

"People get freckles and freckles sometimes fade (but) we were able to track three *... two on the left cheek and one near the right eye" in making the identification, said Dr.*Sharon M. Derrick, a forensic anthropologist with the Harris County (Texas) Medical Examiner's Office.

Harris County on Wednesday, Jan. 29, identified the Jane Doe accident victim as Jaster.

"This was one of those cases we really didn't have anything to go on," Derrick said of the case of Jaster, who died in a hit-and-run, pedestrian accident in Houston on March 28, 1980.

Not only did the woman in the accident have no identification, her family and those who knew her were some 1,300 miles away, unaware of her whereabouts.

Derrick said identifications are typically made with fingerprints, but in this case, none were on file for Jaster.

And although there were dental records to compare with autopsy reports, there were no dental X-rays to compare.

Finally, investigators had DNA samples from Jaster's family members, but DNA wasn't collected for the accident victim when she was buried in Texas at county expense.

Derrick said the ability of Jaster's sisters to identified the woman as their sibling helped with the identification as well as consistencies in dental records, matching freckles and the same hairline pattern.

Quoting George -
I’ve been obsessed with this case since it was assigned to me in 2003. I discovered DNA that had been preserved under her fingernails in 2004, 16 years after the fact, that had been secured at the Medical Examiners Office. As a result, a suspect was developed in 2010, 3 months after I retired but nothing was done to close this case. Further, through my investigation, I believe that Jane Doe is Cathleen Martin who went missing in Cape May NJ in mid 1987. Cathleen’s family and husband, John Martin, also believes Jane Doe to be Cathleen and yet and nothing further after I retired has been done. For those interested, please read the article that Adriana posted above (thank you so much Adriana)and anyone with any info please free to contact me via [email protected] or through my website http://www.majorcaseinvestigations.com.

2Cute thank you for the inquiry. Cathleen’s family has and is willing to provide additional DNA samples to be tested as Exemplars with Jane Doe. However; considering certain government red tape bureaucracies, The Weschester County Forensics Lab will not forward Genome pro-filer / co-filer data on Jane Doe to be tested by an independent lab nor will they do it themselves. They basically looked to avoid court testimony, considering the level of contamination in the way it was collected. Remember the DNA was collected in 1988 when technology didn’t exists. And therefore, they don’t want to be put in the hot seat as no labs do. The only hope is for an independent lab to compare the samples and offer an opinion. 8 out of 13 DNA allels match to blood relatives which suggests a strong family relationship. Now we need for an expert to explain the reason as to why the other allels didn’t spike, which the answer is simply due to a mixture / contamination. Thanks for your input and interest.
 
  • #23
Bump.
 
  • #24
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  • #25
Copying this here to update the thread...
George Ossipo replied on a blog - Mount Vernon Jane Doe - October - 29 - 2014. Sent George a message on his website to give him Cathleen's & MV Jane's NamUs profiles as well as invited him to post with us.

As George says on the blog; he feels she is Cathleen & did not come up as a match because the sample was tainted. I had suggested he contact Lori Bruski to see if NamUs can help with getting her exhumed to get a fresh sample.

I do wonder if Cathleen has the large mole/ birthmark like our NamUs UP # 10229. She could be matched that way like MI - Paulette Jaster - Other distinctive physical characteristics - freckles on face under eyes , large birth mark on right front side of neck, just above the shoulder.

I emailed George while I was taking my daughter to class. I asked if Cathleen's family had more photos of her and if so; she could be ruled in/out by using the freckles/ birth mark. I gave him this article; told him he can google to get more. I looked for photos of Cathleen but haven't found any of use; they're pretty small. Also the eyebrow pattern should be of help too

Three freckles helped Texas officials identify dead woman as long-missing Davison woman By Ron Fonger | [email protected] on January 30, 2014 at 4:00 PM, updated January 30, 2014 at 4:05 PM



Quoting George -

Honestly doubt Mount Vernon Jane is Cathleen. I think Cathleen just hasn't been found yet. Prayers to her family and children
 
  • #26
Honestly doubt Mount Vernon Jane is Cathleen. I think Cathleen just hasn't been found yet. Prayers to her family and children

I agree. I think she might be El Dorado Jane Doe. EDJD was theorized to have been a runaway from FL. The women look much alike imho. Is it just me? Also it was said the Jane Doe may have been trying to make money to send home to her 2 kids. Cathleen had 2 kids she left behind with her sis!

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/81ufar.html

I just sent her in as a match :)
 
  • #27
No match as both people have DNA in national CODIS system. Would be nice if she could be listed on the rule outs anyhow. Reply from Michael with Namus:

"Ms. "DaisyChains",

DNA from both individuals is in national CODIS with no associations.

Thank you,

Mike"
 
  • #28
No match as both people have DNA in national CODIS system. Would be nice if she could be listed on the rule outs anyhow. Reply from Michael with Namus:

"Ms. "DaisyChains",

DNA from both individuals is in national CODIS with no associations.

Thank you,

Mike"

Augh.... I really thought this would lead to something..
 
  • #29
The Doe Network:

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1013dfnj.html



Case File 1013DFNJ
CMartin.jpg

Cathleen Marie Martin
Missing since March 13, 1987 from Cape May, Cape May County, New Jersey.
Classification: Missing

Vital Statistics

  • [*]Date Of Birth: September 26, 1958
    [*]Age at Time of Disappearance: 28 years old
    [*]Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'8"; 110 lbs.
    [*]Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; blue eyes.
    [*]Marks, Scars: Coffee colored mark on right arm.
    [*]AKA: Cathleen Buttson; Catina Buttson
  • Dentals: Not available

Circumstances of Disappearance
Martin was last seen on March 13, 1987 in Cape May, NJ. She boarded a plane en route to Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. Upon arrival stayed for an extra week. Never returned home. She left 2 small children with sister.

Investigators
If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:
Cape May County Prosecutor's Office
609-465-1135
Local Case Number: 2008-035/

NamUs MP 10795

NCIC Number: M-703761043

Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.
Source Information:
California Department of Justice
 
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Let's keep this case alive
 
  • #32
Bumping for Cathleen as we approach the 34th anniversary of her disappearance
 
  • #33
Some additional details on Cathleen's disappearance.

25-year-old Mount Vernon murder mystery: Who is Jane Doe?

Fox’s husband, Joe Fox, was the last family member to see Martin alive. He took her to the airport on March 13, 1987, to drop her off for a vacation to Florida.

After arriving in Florida, Martin called her sister, whom she had been living with in Cape May, and said she was extending her vacation. Martin, who had studied accounting, had recently lost her job and had left her children in her sister’s care. She told her sister that she was going to take a ride up the East Coast with a limousine driver she met.

She never was heard from again.
 
  • #34
Cathleen Marie Martin
cathleen_marie_martin_1.jpg

Martin, circa 1987

  • Missing Since 03/13/1987
  • Missing From Fort Lauderdale, Florida
  • Classification Missing
  • Sex Female
  • Race White
  • Date of Birth 09/26/1958 (62)
  • Age 28 years old
  • Height and Weight 5'8, 110 pounds
  • Distinguishing Characteristics Caucasian female. Blonde hair, blue eyes. Martin has a coffee-colored mark on her right arm. She may use the aliases Cathleen Buttson and/or Catrina Buttson.
Details of Disappearance

Martin left Cape May, New Jersey on March 13, 1987 and flew to Fort Lauderdale, Florida. After she arrived, she decided to extend her stay by one week. She never returned home and has never been heard from again. Martin left two small children behind in her sister's care. Few details are available in her case. New Jersey police are investigating.

Investigating Agency
  • Cape May Police Department 609-884-9500
Source Information
 
  • #35
I searched newspaper records and the only thing I can find is a Cathlene Marie Martin who had a child in 1991 named Charles Greene III in Tampa, FL. Probably no relation - but I can't find any articles about her reported missing in 1987, or anything about any other Cathleen Marie Martins, or Cathleen Buttsons, or Catrina Buttson, etc.
Her family was from Florida. When she disappeared she was en route to Florida where her sister was watching her two young children.
 
  • #36
After arriving in Florida, Martin called her sister, whom she had been living with in Cape May, and said she was extending her vacation. Martin, who had studied accounting, had recently lost her job and had left her children in her sister’s care. She told her sister that she was going to take a ride up the East Coast with a limousine driver she met.
So we know Cathleen left NJ arrived in FL and contacted her sister from Florida. The only clue I have read is that she told her sister she was going to take a ride up the East Coast with a limo driver. It is not a great clue but it's the only one. I wonder if she was planning on driving up the coast from Florida back to NJ with this guy or a ride up the east coast of Florida. She took an airplane down I wonder if she was suppose to fly back?
 
  • #37
Missing Persons Case Report
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Missing Person / NamUs #MP10795 Cathleen Marie Martin, Female, White / Caucasian
Status Missing
Date of Last Contact March 29, 1987
Missing From Upper Darby, Pennsylvania
Missing Age 28 Years
Current Age 63 Years
Case Information

Demographics
Missing Age 28 Years
Current Age 63 Years
First Name Cathleen
Middle Name Marie
Last Name Martin
Nickname/Alias Cathleen Buttson, Catina Buttson

Sex Female
Height 5' 8" (68 Inches)
Weight 110 lbs
Race / Ethnicity White / Caucasian

Circumstances
Date of Last Contact March 29, 1987
NamUs Case Created May 16, 2011
Last Known Location
Location Upper Darby, Pennsylvania 19082
County Delaware County

Circumstances of Disappearance Cathleen boarded a plane en route to Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. Upon arrival stayed for an extra week. Never returned home.

Physical Description
Hair Color Blond/Strawberry
Head Hair Description --
Body Hair Description --
Facial Hair Description --
Left Eye Color Blue
Right Eye Color Blue
Eye Description --
Distinctive Physical Features
Item
Description
Other distinctive physical characteristic
A coffee colored mark on right arm.


Clothing and Accessories
No Information Entered
Additional Case Info

Transportation
No Information Entered
Images & Documents
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Facial/case ID
Uploaded: May 16, 2011

Contacts
Investigating Agencies
Case Owner
Cape May County Prosecutor's Office

Address 110 Justice Way Cape May Court House, New Jersey 08210
County Cape May County
Main Phone (609) 465-1135
General Email --
Website URL Home

Agency Case Number2008-035
Date ReportedJune 12, 2008
Marshall Cradock, Detective - Major Crime Unit

Address 110 Justice Way Cape May Court House, New Jersey 08210
County Cape May County
Main Phone (609) 465-1135
General Email --
Website URL Home
 
  • #38
I'm kind of confused why she is listed on the CA missing database, in addition to NJ and FL. It seems she could be anywhere.

 
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I have the impression that she left with someone... maybe she was looking for economic and emotional stability but it didn't include her children... it's likely that she's alive and living with someone somewhere in the United States... what was her relationship like with her children? Did she have a partner or husband? How did she get along with her family? depression? why did she decide to stay an extra week in Miami? what really happened...
whatever the case
rest in peace
 

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