GUILTY FL - Chance Walsh, 7 wks, North Port, 7 Oct 2015 #1

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  • #901
I know it's not who you are. It's not who I am either. But at this moment I understand the mentality behind lynch mobs. It makes me uncomfortable and afraid, too, but I will not allow my rage to make me abandon Chance. No matter how horrible I feel about myself right now.

I think our anger is normal, EllieBee. But yes, it does feel awful.

The anger is undeniably, inarguably, unquestionably 100% justified. It is righteous anger when one of the most defenseless members of our society is brutally victimized. It's when we stop feeling that and turn away, we're in trouble as a society.
 
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  • #904
I'm right there with you and probably a lot of others here are too. :(

And I don't think I've ever seen a case where identification of a body wasn't confirmed within 24 hours or so. LE is treating its investigation as if Chance has been identified yet no official confirmation has come. For the life of me I can't figure out why.

In an infant without dental records or fingerprints on file, I'm assuming it has to be a DNA confirmed match to mom/dad? That will take much longer unless a rush or priority is put in place at the lab.

moo.
 
  • #905
Is it even possible his brother doesn't even know how many kids were taken from him? I mean, he sounds so... (what's the word I'm looking for here?!)

I can kind of understand his state of denial. If my sister did something like this, it would be much less painful for me to blame it on the dude she's with, KWIM?
 
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Still making excuses for his awesome bro.

But to be honest, I understand. Who wants to believe someone they love could be capable of such evil? Even though JW's criminal record speaks to his violent nature, CW is not at fault and while I don't think I could be so blindly supportive, I do get it. Kind of.

Yes, I get it, too. I don't think anyone wants to think their brother, sister, daughter, son, mother or father could do such an unspeakably awful thing. It must be immensely difficult to reconcile all that in your mind. It's probably the reason these kinds of events play out under the noses of the closest bystanders, even when they know something is wrong. They just can't bear to believe it could come to all this, even after it already has.
 
  • #908
Is it even possible his brother doesn't even know how many kids were taken from him? I mean, he sounds so... (what's the word I'm looking for here?!)

He actually commented on another person's post about the 7 kids that these reporters did not know what they were talking about and they were just trying to create more drama. (Like two dead babies isn't bad enough?)

Only, the info came from DFCS (or whatever it's called in Sarasota), not from some rogue journalist. Denial.
 
  • #909
He actually commented on another person's post about the 7 kids that these reporters did not know what they were talking about and they were just trying to create more drama. (Like two dead babies isn't bad enough?)

Only, the info came from DFCS (or whatever it's called in Sarasota), not from some rogue journalist. Denial.

I have a feeling the family may not know the full extent of JWs criminal past and extensive involvement with DCF. I'm sure he likely hid as much of it as he could rather than bragging that DCF just took more of his children or that he'd just been arrested for the umpteenth time. They've had much more tendency to rag on KB since she came along, though JWs mom did publicly go off on JW at least once which KB then went ballistic about on her FB saying how dare JWs mom call him worthless and no good and that everyone was out to get them, as usual.

But still, I have a feeling the family is going to be as shocked as we are about some of the stuff that comes out about JW and his past.
 
  • #910
From SM comments, it appears the pitchforks are fully aimed at KB.

Not many mentions of dreamboat. Why he is being given a pass, IDK. Maybe that will change after court tomorrow.

Don't get me wrong. She is heinous. But I think he is, equally.
 
  • #911
I can not for the life of me find CW's posts on the WINK FB post linked in this thread. Have they been removed?
 
  • #912
Look under TW's comment. His posts are replies to hers.

ETA: that was in reply to you, Fizzypop!
 
  • #913
Thank you EllieBee, I see them now. But yeah, what about the other SEVEN kids he's had taken away!!?! I know you said he replied to that and said it's not true, but like you said that is from DCF I am sure they are not making things up for attention lol. This guy sounds nice enough but he needs to stop drinking the JW kool aid and realize that his brother is maybe not the best person and wasn't even before he met KB, unless he's going to say the same thing about KW and the mother of the other kids that were taken. :thinking:
 
  • #914
Sorry to hijack Chance's thread for a moment. I just saw a MSM article about a missing 11 year old girl , Janiya Thomas from Bradenton, Florida. Possibly missing for MONTHS ! Her mother was arrested tonight refusing to answer LE's questions about Janiya's whereabouts. I have no idea how to start a new thread. If someone would please start a thread for Janiya..please and thank you
link to the Bradenton Police Dept Facebook Page with information on Janiya
https://www.facebook.com/BradentonPoliceDepartment

MSM article with police stating Janiya has not been seen in MONTHS !
http://www.bradenton.com/news/local/crime/article39620562.html
 
  • #915
Sorry to hijack Chance's thread for a moment. I just saw a MSM article about a missing 11 year old girl , Janiya Thomas from Bradenton, Florida. Possibly missing for MONTHS ! Her mother was arrested tonight refusing to answer LE's questions about Janiya's whereabouts. I have no idea how to start a new thread. If someone would please start a thread for Janiya..please and thank you
link to the Bradenton Police Dept Facebook Page with information on Janiya
https://www.facebook.com/BradentonPoliceDepartment

MSM article with police stating Janiya has not been seen in MONTHS !
http://www.bradenton.com/news/local/crime/article39620562.html

I saw the same and looked for a thread here. I'll leave it to someone who knows what they're doing. Janiya's mom Keishanna Thomas is in jail for contempt of court. What a piece of work!

Thanks for bringing it up!

ETA: There's a thread now:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ya-Thomas-11-Bradenton-unknown-last-seen-date
 
  • #916
Tylea Moore, Sophia O'Neill, James 'JJ' Sieger Jr., Lorenzo Orozco-Estrada, and God only knows how many more.


This, and you understand and want the death penalty for people like this. You've crossed a line and there is no going back. You need to be off this earthly plane.


July 2002, 5-month old Brianna Lopez, born premature in February of that year in Las Cruces, New Mexico, died a brutal death after suffering some of the most horrific abuse I have ever heard a child having to endure.

In her short 5 months of life, she was pinched, thrown in the air, slammed on the ground, repeatedly bitten and sexually penetrated by her father and uncle.

An autopsy showed her anus and vagina were both injured. She had a significant abrasion on her buttocks, which went all the way into the buttocks, that was consistent with sexual assault. Immediately after she was pronounced dead, a nurse observed that her anus gaped open with no muscle tone. The autopsy revealed her anal opening was dilated to a full inch. Internal examination showed an injury a half-inch to an inch inside the anal opening and vaginal injuries inside the labia minora, including three small injuries to the hymen.

Her small body was literally covered from head to toe in bruises and bite marks. She also had older injuries that included fractures to her skull and legs.

From the Facebook Page dedicated to her, we read, “On the night of her death she had been thrown to the ceiling and hit the floor three times and also sexually penetrated. When authorities found her it shocked them so badly they needed counseling. Her father and uncle had raped her and were also the ones who threw her to the ceiling without catching her during a night of drinking. Her mother caused the many bite marks on different occasions and also pinched Brianna when she became frustrated with her baby. Briannas father, Andy Walters would throw her when he became frustrated. On Friday July 19th at 10:00am Brianas mother Stephanie Lopez, woke to find Brianna not breathing and called 911. On Friday July 19th at 11:10am 5 month old baby Brianna Lopez passed away at Memorial Medical Center in Las Cruces from the injuries that were a result of this abuse.”

This poor little girl never felt a single second of love or affection in her short 5 months of life.

Brianna’s father and uncle were sentenced to 57 and 51 years in prison, respectively, for raping and killing the girl. Her mother received 27 years for negligence that led to the girl’s death.

In 2006, the convictions of these three monsters were overturned after lawyers for the three filed an Appeal with the New Mexico Supreme Court, claiming that because the three had been tried together and had provided evidence against one another, their right to cross examine their accusers had been violated. The Justices agreed, and overturned all three defendant’s convictions.

In June 2007, the mother’s conviction was reinstated.

In September 2007, the convictions of the father and uncle were reinstated on most counts.

That these three still breathe is a travesty itself, but they are all locked away in prison, for now.

The outrage in Las Cruces was astounding as was the sympathy and guilt the community felt over this poor child.

The only photo of her is one filled will bruises taken after her death just prior to her autopsy. By digitally removing the bruises, a decent photo of this child was made where she appears sleeping.

As if not abused enough in life, no one came forward to claim Brianna’s body, so the community banded together and claimed her, giving her a decent burial. Then, remaining family members came forward and decided to claim this poor child’s grave, erected a cage around her grave to keep community members who would erect a headstone as well as keep flowers on her grave, out.

Even in death this poor child’s memory is to be refused a little caring and affection, if the remaining family continues.

In a rare move for me, I am linking to a petition I would encourage everyone to sign to encourage the New Mexico Courts to legally remove that cage and allow well wishers to pay homage to this poor child, dead now for 7 years."

http://rightinaleftworld.blogspot.com/2009/08/brianna-lopez-abused-in-life-caged-in.html?m=1

WARNING -very graphic

https://youtu.be/cTWLj1_ISB8
 
  • #917
My opinion is that mom confessed. She told LE what happened. Then they got it out of dad by telling him that she confessed.

Days ago I posted that I thought addicts should be offered free sterilization. Maybe they should be offered a lesser sentence for drug offenses and child neglect that does not involve death in exchange for a voluntary sterilization and the surrender of custody of the living kids.

We can't stop people from doing drugs but maybe if they get sober in jail, they will see that sterilization will save them from becoming a monster. It is prevention of abuse and murder.
 
  • #918
My opinion is that mom confessed. She told LE what happened. Then they got it out of dad by telling him that she confessed.

Days ago I posted that I thought addicts should be offered free sterilization. Maybe they should be offered a lesser sentence for drug offenses and child neglect that does not involve death in exchange for a voluntary sterilization and the surrender of custody of the living kids.

We can't stop people from doing drugs but maybe if they get sober in jail, they will see that sterilization will save them from becoming a monster. It is prevention of abuse and murder.

I agree, and definitely sterilisation should be mandatory in some of these dreadful cases. Some people are just not wired right for having a nurturing instinct in them especially a sociopathic or psychopathic personality type. And the egg donor in this case warned she wanted to hurt this baby and she did.
 
  • #919
Yes, she whined on FB about her felony record making it hard to get anyone to hire her for a job. She posted about how unfair it was for employers to be holding her record against her. Well gee, lady, how about not earning that felony record in the first place? That's just another example of her "nothing is my fault but everyone is out to get me" mentality.

She is listed as DISABLED under employment in her arrest report from Sarasota County. Was she collecting Social Security Disability? And what kind of disability did she claim she had?
 
  • #920
I think the server is down. I followed the same link with Firefox and IE with the same result. I also followed the link from NBC news, with the same result.

Just checked -- still down.
 
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