GUILTY FL - Chance Walsh, 7 wks, North Port, 7 Oct 2015 #2

[cvaldez1975]

I did not get a visit. I did however go to the stork center several times to follow up on his latching.

I had full term babies, hospital and birthing center births, home between 2 and 60 hrs after each baby was born, and we've had a nurse visit the following day for each one. I didn't realize it wasn't the norm all over the US.

 

[1&2&3]

Having a home visit after birth is not normal in NC with insurance.

We just had a birth this summer, both parents had excellent coverage through their employers, and a home visit by a nurse was not included.

In fact, the baby had jaundice, was sent home with a light blanket, and had to daily go to the pediatrician then to the hospital for blood tests. A real nuisance, time consuming and exhausting for new mother, and exposure to lots of germs for newborn. It was a 3-4 hour process and everything was close to home. A home visit by a nurse would have been w.o.n.d.e.r.f.u.l!

Perhaps a nurse visits welfare cases, I am not sure of the status on this. I have heard of home visits after birth from workers, however, never wanted to get personal and ask about it. YKWIM?

 

[helenlouise426]

My youngest was born on medicaid insurance. She also had jaundice. They sent a nurse to my home only because we were 45 miles from a clinic or hospital. It was covered by insurance but not required.

 

[charminglane]

Do you think that K hated Chance because JW was not his real father?

 

[Momoffourboys]

Do you think that K hated Chance because JW was not his real father?

I think she hated Chance because he took time away from drugs and loverboy.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

Do you think that K hated Chance because JW was not his real father?

Who said Chance wasn't JW's?

 

[SweatPea4.5]

I think she hated Chance because he took time away from drugs and loverboy.

My wonderings.....
So her first child was taken away/given up (we don't know the age, and court dates don't say a lot since most likely he would have been out of her care for much longer). Her idea of him is all daydreams and what-ifs. Then she (maybe) has a tubal pregnancy. Again, she only has her imagination. Then Duane only survives such a short time. I don't recall where, but I believe I read that KB told friends Duane was an easy, happy baby. My opinion is that he didn't live long enough to reach a difficult phase OR his life was so short hadn't grown sick of him yet. In retrospect, did she forget the times that she WAS annoyed with Duane, and only recall the sweet stuff? So did she have a romanticized idea of what a child would be? A romanticized and completely unrealistic idea of what JW would be like with a baby? Chance lived longer than Duane, so she had time to grow tired of being a parent and of him in general. Did she begin to compare her current situation to her unrealistic memories of Duane and/or romanticized ideas of motherhood? She had time to find out what JW was like as a father - how was that going over? Instead of being the center of attention, she was probably expected to shut the baby up, deal with the baby, etc. Throw in some serious drug use, and voila! we have the perfect environment to end up with a murdered baby. My heart breaks for Chance just thinking about it.

 

[Rayemonde]

My wonderings.....
So her first child was taken away/given up (we don't know the age, and court dates don't say a lot since most likely he would have been out of her care for much longer). Her idea of him is all daydreams and what-ifs. Then she (maybe) has a tubal pregnancy. Again, she only has her imagination. Then Duane only survives such a short time. I don't recall where, but I believe I read that KB told friends Duane was an easy, happy baby. My opinion is that he didn't live long enough to reach a difficult phase OR his life was so short hadn't grown sick of him yet. In retrospect, did she forget the times that she WAS annoyed with Duane, and only recall the sweet stuff? So did she have a romanticized idea of what a child would be? A romanticized and completely unrealistic idea of what JW would be like with a baby? Chance lived longer than Duane, so she had time to grow tired of being a parent and of him in general. Did she begin to compare her current situation to her unrealistic memories of Duane and/or romanticized ideas of motherhood? She had time to find out what JW was like as a father - how was that going over? Instead of being the center of attention, she was probably expected to shut the baby up, deal with the baby, etc. Throw in some serious drug use, and voila! we have the perfect environment to end up with a murdered baby. My heart breaks for Chance just thinking about it.

Good point... She seemed so happy about being pregnant again, but a fantasy baby is much easier than a real baby...

 

[EllieBee]

Good point... She seemed so happy about being pregnant again, but a fantasy baby is much easier than a real baby...

So very true.

And yet the real ones are so worth the sleep deprivation, worry and sore breasts! :loveyou:

 

[MsMarple]

My wonderings.....
So her first child was taken away/given up (we don't know the age, and court dates don't say a lot since most likely he would have been out of her care for much longer). Her idea of him is all daydreams and what-ifs. Then she (maybe) has a tubal pregnancy. Again, she only has her imagination. Then Duane only survives such a short time. I don't recall where, but I believe I read that KB told friends Duane was an easy, happy baby. My opinion is that he didn't live long enough to reach a difficult phase OR his life was so short hadn't grown sick of him yet. In retrospect, did she forget the times that she WAS annoyed with Duane, and only recall the sweet stuff? So did she have a romanticized idea of what a child would be? A romanticized and completely unrealistic idea of what JW would be like with a baby? Chance lived longer than Duane, so she had time to grow tired of being a parent and of him in general. Did she begin to compare her current situation to her unrealistic memories of Duane and/or romanticized ideas of motherhood? She had time to find out what JW was like as a father - how was that going over? Instead of being the center of attention, she was probably expected to shut the baby up, deal with the baby, etc. Throw in some serious drug use, and voila! we have the perfect environment to end up with a murdered baby. My heart breaks for Chance just thinking about it.

I think you made a good point when you said "My opinion is that he didn't live long enough to reach a difficult phase OR his life was so short hadn't grown sick of him yet."

Interestingly, Bury made some conflicting statements about that:

Wood says Bury often complained that Chance was the complete opposite of Duane; he was fussy and cried a lot.

“Just from observing, the difference between Duane, they were never separated from him. He was the perfect baby, he was everything,” Wood said. “And then with Chance–I very seldom saw them with Chance.”

http://www.winknews.com/2015/10/16/chance-walshs-mom-being-extradited-to-sarasota-county/

According to North Port Police criminal investigative records, the couple's son, Duane Walsh, died suddenly in April 2014. Police reports indicate that Walsh and Bury told investigators Duane was fussy and had thrown up a bottle. They went to sleep with the two-week-old and awoke to find him not moving.

http://www.fox13news.com/news/local-news/34173792-story

It seems that you may be on point in that Bury was okay with Duane when he was quiet and not fussing but may have been a "problem" for her when he wasn't. So, some sort of romanticized ideal of what a baby means might have fallen short for Bury.

JMO, but for some mothers a baby is expected to fulfill their needs and when that expectation isn't met, trouble brews. IOW, a mother who needs their baby to show abject, unconditional love towards her can feel rejected by that baby when the baby acts... well, like a baby.

Again, it's JMO; baby Duane may have very well died from an undiagnosed condition. But I find it telling that Bury told some people he died from SIDS and others that he died from a "botched circumcision" when he actually died from a kidney infection.

 

[Jovi Girl]

I was confused as to who Bury was , then I realized it's the monster ! Why so many different last names ?

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

Good point... She seemed so happy about being pregnant again, but a fantasy baby is much easier than a real baby...

I wonder if it was because Duane looked just like his daddy JW, and Chance didn't. He looked more like her.

 

[ZhaZhaHa]

Hey guys I'm not sure how to go about this. There is an AA out for a boy in Westminster,CO named Austin Rasnic and I don't see anything up about him yet. Can somebody get one started? Thank you! Here's the report

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...or-10-year-old-austin-rasnic-from-westminster

 

[ilovepierre]

On the topic of home visits: here in Canada (at least in the province I live in) home visits occur within the first week of baby being born. When my brother was born, the home visit nurse came to our house the day after my mom was discharged. The nurse did a complete check up on my brother, asked my mom a bunch of questions, and then did a genetics blood test on my brother before she left. My mom's pregnancy was completely normal and my brother was born at full term.

Slightly OT, but shouldn't this be in the "located" forum now? I'm not completely caught up, but last I read on the previous thread was that Chance was found. Was the body not his?

 

[EllieBee]

I was confused as to who Bury was , then I realized it's the monster ! Why so many different last names ?

Kristen Lee Millwater (maiden name) Bury (first marriage) Walsh (second marriage, but seems she never legally changed her name?).

HTH.

 

[EllieBee]

I wonder if it was because Duane looked just like his daddy JW, and Chance didn't. He looked more like her.

More likely Duane only lived 22 days and was sick most of those days so did not live long enough to get on their nerves and interrupt the sports-watching.

Chance, on the other hand, was likely in good health, had a stronger cry, was possibly in opiate withdrawal, so VERY fussy, and by 52 days, junkie parents were over it and wanted Chance to just shut up forever like Duane did.

Sorry to be so blunt, but that is about what I think of these two selfish a-holes. They liked the attention pregnancy, burned down houses, and dead babies got them. Until they killed Chance and realized "Oh CRAP! Nobody is gonna buy THIS one!"

Even a couple of meth heads knew another dead baby was not likely to start up another . :/

It was all about the beautiful (gag me) couple. Couple of what? Murderers.

 

[Seymour Krelborn]

CHANCE WALSH, Age Now: 3 Month(s), Missing: 09/09/2015. Missing From NORTH PORT, FL. ANYONE HAVING INFORMATION SHOULD CONTACT: Sarasota County Sheriff's Office (Florida) 1-941-861-4074.

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[passionflower]

I'm curious about "Lullaby" Road......these 2 lived there in 3-4 different homes. (halfway house, fire house, neighbors and the last house)
So many people had to know everything that went on. People talk and gossip.

Why did Bury defend "the dogs" in several writings with Duane?

also How long was the Bury's married? no children?

Bury didn't want Walsh at the halfway house and her husband was there also............why?
Bury and Walsh together 3 ? years?
1 tubal pregnancy, Duane and Chance?

Bury wrote her mother made her give her baby away 10 years ago.
Bury claimed mother locked her in her room.........was she on drugs then? unmanageable? or plain abuse?
I am thinking mother knew something was wrong way back then, I could be wrong though.

 

[passionflower]

I never read the books that Bury read to Walsh, but someone stated they were about abuse.......
did they get ideas???
Could these 2 be serial abusers and serial murderers?
I also remember a dog dying of stress?
Dreamboat wanted a baby right after Duane died.........he already had made 7 children............that he treated badly.

 

[cvaldez1975]

this.

I think JW only wanted a baby if the mom would take care of it. and KB didn't want to take care of the baby because she was getting high too. the crying made JW cranky and it was "drama" for KB. so she hated him. her little bundle didn't cement their bond the way shed hoped. babies are hard.

I think she hated Chance because he took time away from drugs and loverboy.