GUILTY FL - Cherish Perrywinkle, 8, Jacksonville, 21 June 2013 #1

[my_tee_mouse]

I know! She had a child and we doted on her became her grandparents,then she after my grandson was born when they broke up we still were her grandparents and my daughter would buy both kids summer and school clothes every year including schools supplies,then when she met #3 and got pregnant a month (knew him 2 months)after the kids told he had been abusing them (long story) She got mad because my daughter bought the 2 kids their summer clothes and did not buy for the 3rd child!:banghead:

I feel your pain and frustration. I have friends close to me that went through a similar situation. When we have the opportunity to have good, decent, caring, mentoring people in our children's lives, we should embrace it. And, given the nature of this particular case, I feel that I must add and emphasize good, decent, caring, mentoring people that we know well...not just strangers off the street who promise our kids something!

 

[jjenny]

Boyfriend of Cherish's mother speaks

http://www.news4jax.com/news/boyfri...eaks/-/475880/20693252/-/5s2kgcz/-/index.html



Bolded part...It's like she is saying it's Cherish's fault. I didn't give her permission to go to McDonald's. I even told her last week not to go off with a stranger. But she still did!

Considering mom was hanging with the guy for hours, I really doubt Cherish thought of him as a "stranger."

 

[my_tee_mouse]

Considering mom was hanging with the guy for hours, I really doubt Cherish thought of him as a "stranger."

And considering she'd seen her mom break this very rule by getting herself and her kids in a van with this stranger...

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Considering mom was hanging with the guy for hours, I really doubt Cherish thought of him as a "stranger."

Exactly. It bothers me that Rayne seems to be putting some of the blame on Cherish.

 

[Gypsy Road]

Oh Lord...I just read the boyfriend's interview. Good gracious....

 

[AstroKitty]

Oh Lord...I just read the boyfriend's interview. Good gracious....

Is there a link for it or is it easy to find via google?

 

[Hejlena]

Not sure if anybody has replied to this post.

If I saw that on Craigslist I would report it to the police. You just never know.

Kmouse if you're talking about the single mother looking for help thing, look at the "Wanted" section of CL in any major city--it is rife with these requests. Some people seem to think that the "single mom card" is going to garner them pity enough that someone is just going to hand over money to them. Now, are some legitimate requests? Probably. Call me overprotective, but I think it's dangerous to put even the fact that I'm a single mother out there like that. It's a guilded invitation for a predator.

If you're talking about the "come over and hang out with me and my daughter" type posts, yes-I have reported. Internet Crimes Against Children is our friend.

 

[Strangeworld]

I do detect a sense of blame coming from the mouths of Rayne and her boyfriend. Even after reading what the boyfriend has said, there are still no answers. In fact, it puts Rayne in a worse light - if she has been so paranoid about strangers in the past, she was clearly easily 'bought' this time. Who lets go of their firmly held beliefs of stranger danger for a $100 gift card?

What also has peaked my interest is the witness stating that Rayne's mind seemed to be somewhere else - I'd love to know what gave her that impression - did she seem dazed, under the influence, tired?

I've read many news articles in the past about parents who lose a child in tragic circumstances. Often in the first few days of their death, the parents search for answers, and often take some responsibility - what if I.....if only I had.... I believe this type of thinking comes from the very essence of wanting to protect a child (even if they are full grown) from harm. A parent feels responsible for their wellbeing.

I'm not seeing any of this from Cherish's mother or the live in boyfriend....

 

[momrids6]

Is there a link for it or is it easy to find via google?

here you go :seeya:

Boyfriend of Cherish's mother speaks

http://www.news4jax.com/news/boyfri...eaks/-/475880/20693252/-/5s2kgcz/-/index.html



Bolded part...It's like she is saying it's Cherish's fault. I didn't give her permission to go to McDonald's. I even told her last week not to go off with a stranger. But she still did!

 

[Hejlena]

http://www.news4jax.com/news/boyfri...eaks/-/475880/20693252/-/5s2kgcz/-/index.html

"Cherish's mom says she told Cherish just last week to never leave a store with a stranger."

My anger says, "Gag me."
My compassion says, "Here is a grown woman trying to say the right things, the things she has heard about staying safe, but really she sadly probably has no idea how to live them."

 

[Nana]

Boyfriend of Cherish's mother speaks

http://www.news4jax.com/news/boyfri...eaks/-/475880/20693252/-/5s2kgcz/-/index.html



Bolded part...It's like she is saying it's Cherish's fault. I didn't give her permission to go to McDonald's. I even told her last week not to go off with a stranger. But she still did!

My hinky meter I just hate it sometimes!!
The bolded above why would she tell her not to go off with a stranger, has she done that before? I hope he was going for the stranger danger thing but some how I just don't think so!!!
Poor baby!!

 

[Ausgirl]

I think she's just attempting to cover her /shield herself from the onslaught of hate she knows is out there for a woman who'd do the dumb things she did. It's deflecting blame, and that's how a kid handles guilt - to me this is a good indicator of the level of emotional/mental maturity she possesses.

Not that it's an excuse. Just understandable behaviour, for somebody who isn't very mature to begin with.

 

[Nana]

I do detect a sense of blame coming from the mouths of Rayne and her boyfriend. Even after reading what the boyfriend has said, there are still no answers. In fact, it puts Rayne in a worse light - if she has been so paranoid about strangers in the past, she was clearly easily 'bought' this time. Who lets go of their firmly held beliefs of stranger danger for a $100 gift card?

What also has peaked my interest is the witness stating that Rayne's mind seemed to be somewhere else - I'd love to know what gave her that impression - did she seem dazed, under the influence, tired?

I've read many news articles in the past about parents who lose a child in tragic circumstances. Often in the first few days of their death, the parents search for answers, and often take some responsibility - what if I.....if only I had.... I believe this type of thinking comes from the very essence of wanting to protect a child (even if they are full grown) from harm. A parent feels responsible for their wellbeing.

I'm not seeing any of this from Cherish's mother or the live in boyfriend....

I have thought about this for awhile and the picture drives me crazy!
I will most likely get slammed for this but oh well.....
I do belive this mom had a warm and fuzzy feeling for this guy like she was cheating on BF out in the open with the kids in tow!
I can't put the words to what I am trying to say sorry!

 

[Hejlena]

My kids and learned from The Safe Side. John Walsh is involved in this project. Delivery is no nonsense but silly enough to get the message across iykwim. Critical to me is the fact that there are no "strangers"

. There are don't knows...people you've never met before. Kind of Knows: someone you or your family have met or know(friends of the family fall into this category or distant relatives) and then there are, I forget the name for them, safe people: one or two besides mom or dad that you are allowed to go with no questions asked.

Anyone else needs to know the password. Don't knows and kinda knows are treated the same-run, tell a grown up, scream bite and kick like hell (my kids 8 and 6 especially love when I say this-they think it's extraordinary that I swear and I do it so the message sticks)

 

[necco]

Sounds to me like she is trying to alleviate her own guilt.

 

[Hejlena]

I have thought about this for awhile and the picture drives me crazy!
I will most likely get slammed for this but oh well.....
I do belive this mom had a warm and fuzzy feeling for this guy like she was cheating on BF out in the open with the kids in tow!
I can't put the words to what I am trying to say sorry!

Two things: About the warm and fuzzy-I'm thinking you are spot on. I think if mom is lacking in sexual boundaries in any way she would be extremely flattered and even see it as fitting her persona that a man wants to buy her a dress, take her and her kids to Walmart, buy them stuff, etc. Think of the thrill she will get retelling that story. Now I'm not saying that's the case with Rayne, just an observation of human behavior. A woman lacking in boundaries is wide open for a predator.

Second, regarding Crystal from the shoe department, she has commented under an msm article earlier and her words regarding mom were a bit more, shall I say, tart? I believe "high as a kite" was what I read. Wonder what changed her perceptions. Lemme see if I can find reference.

 

[pukasonqo2]

Boyfriend of Cherish's mother speaks

http://www.news4jax.com/news/boyfri...eaks/-/475880/20693252/-/5s2kgcz/-/index.html



Bolded part...It's like she is saying it's Cherish's fault. I didn't give her permission to go to McDonald's. I even told her last week not to go off with a stranger. But she still did!

^^
he wasn't a stranger anymore, was he? because she had spent hours with him and saw no signs from her mother that this guy was not to be trusted. all the mixed signals she got is that mum trusted him enough to get into the car with him (otherwise why hang hours with some weirdo?) and that he was going to help them somehow
i am sorry, the mother was the adult in this situation, her duty of care was to make sure her kids were safe but she put them on the hands of a predator...

 

[my_tee_mouse]

My kids and Iearned from The Safe Side. John Walsh is involved in this project. Delivery is no nonsense but silly enough to get the message across iykwim. Critical to me is the fact that there are no "strangers"

. There are don't knowseople you've never met before. Kind of Knows: someone you or your family have met or know(friends of the family fall into this category or distant relatives) and then there are, I forget the name for them, safe people: one or two besides mom or dad that you are allowed to go with no questions asked.

Anyone else needs to know the password. Don't knows and kinda knows are treated the same-run, tell a grown up, scream bite and kick like hell (my kids 8 and 6 especially love when I say this-they think it's extraordinary that I swear and I do it so the message sticks)

Once when I was in grade school there was a family emergency. The sheriff came to pick me up from school. I refused to get near him, much less get in the car. The local deputy was acting as crossing guard, and I knew him well. He assured me that the sheriff was the sheriff and that if he said I needed to go with him...I needed to go with him. I absolutely refused to go with him, and I would not even cross to the sheriff's side of the street. They had to call someone I knew very well and trusted to come pick me up.

Code words are good things to have between immediate family members. My son and I have always had a "code word." It means, "There's danger here." My son is grown and a parent himself now, but we still have that code word in use. Fairly recently he thought I sounded rather strange and strained on the phone, so he used the code word with a question mark behind it. Smart thinking. At that point all I would have had to say is "yes," and 911 would have been called. As it was, I assured him that no, this was not a *** situation.

We also had a code word that had to be used in case I had to send a stranger to pick him up. If that person didn't know that word...no way was my son going to go anywhere with that person.

It's also a good idea to have a word that means, "I mean business...emergency...no playing around." My mother had one of those for us, and I passed that same word down to my son. To this day when he hears that word, he comes running.

That was smart on my mother's part. it's just too bad she didn't think to give us an "it's okay to go with this person" word...might have saved that sheriff and deputy some time and effort! lol

 

[Tonya421]

I don't know much about Jax thrift stores, but around here you could have found a beautiful little girl's dress for $2.00 (or less if it was being rotated out of stock). Just seems like really poor planning and impulsive behavior in response to something for nothing.

I can barely look at that sweet little girl's beautiful pictures knowing what this monster probably did and then tossing her away like garbage. When are we going to stop tolerating early releases and short sentences for these sickos? Ugh

BBM
Completely, totally, 1000% agree with every fiber of my being! As are the majority of society, I believe. So if the majority are in agreement on the sissy-sentencing, why is no one listening to us?
Also, the "formulas" for sentencing keeps a court from giving what we would consider an appropriate sentence. I'm linking the federal sex offender sentencing here http://www.ehow.com/about_5468645_sex-offender-sentencing-guidelines.html
And most of us would consider the rape of a child to be cruel and unusual, yet these baby rapers are coddled in my opinion. They get protective status throughout their incarceration, lawyers and appeals on our dime, and counseling. Why do they need counseling? I don't believe for one second that any kind of counseling or therapy, even chemical castration works. Castration doesn't work because all of their evilness begins in their brain (not that I wouldn't volunteer to physically castrate any of these sobs' myself). Once castrated, they will find other "ways" :sick: to molest and rape.

I believe it was JaxFlaGal that posted this
As he was about to leave prison in 1999, the state flagged Smith as likely to reoffend and be dangerous in the future. Psychiatrists who evaluated him agreed. [B}Just 1 percent of all sex offenders and predators get such a recommendation.[/B]

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
1 percent?? Really? That makes me even angrier! An SO has been red-flagged from the get-go by professionals as likely to re-offend, but sure, we'll release him, it's not like he's going to be in my neighborhood once he gets out. Maybe we should start setting up tents in the yards of those that believe he can be rehabliltated and just let the freaks out early.
Sorry, I got on my soapbox. Now I've got to calm down so I can get some sleep

 

[Hejlena]

http://www.news4jax.com/news/amber-...e-walmart/-/475880/20673410/-/140v30n/-/index.

Ok well here's the article. MadameReporter found it earlier, where Miss Crystal From The Shoe Department commented under the article that she saw Rayne who was high as a kite or something like that. Definitely should be considered rumors but I'm linking just because in this latest article Crystal just says Rayne seemed like her mind was on something else or something more nicely worded.

Eta-comment was at 10:27 Saturday