GUILTY FL - Cherish Perrywinkle, 8, Jacksonville, 21 June 2013 #3

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  • #701
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/article/328582/3/Rayne-Perrywinkle-Cherish-would-be-here

RP gives a speech.

I find especially interesting the idea of not allowing sex predators to own vans (he didn't, I thought it was his mother's?) and that violent predators should have tattoos you can see from a great distance.

Is this so that, once these laws are in place, she can put her children in a stranger's van, send them to fitting rooms and restaurants with strange men with confidence?

Also, is she not aware that not all violent predators are registered? That at some point, these bad people were unregistered? Lots of them go undetected for years? They could be anyone?

I don't mean to be ugly, but her intentional blindness to her own culpability is staggering. If she thinks this whole 'Scarlet Letter' thing is the way to go to protect society, is she also OK with her own face being tattooed with "Baker act", "Domestic Violence", "Child Abandoner," etc., so that we all can know what we're dealing with when around her?

BBM what the... :what:. I didn't have a chance to listen to it yet but this bolded part, seriously??
1. A lot of people drive cars/vans/trucks that they don't own. People borrow them from friends or family, rent them, drive company-owned vans, etc.
2. Not every child is victimized by someone in a van. Some are on foot, some are in sedans, whatever. Van driving does not automatically = predator.
3. So, sex offenders should be unable to get a huge number of jobs because they can't drive vans? (I'm thinking of friends who are carpet cleaners, delivery people, construction workers...not sex offenders as far as I know).
4. Sad but true IMO, there are people on the sex offender registry who are there for stuff like peeing in public. They should be disallowed from owning vans - oh and tattooed?
5. Every predator has a FIRST offense. Every single one of them.

There's more, that's just off the top of my head... I'm stopping before my head explodes.
 
  • #702
She will never accept that she had any responsibility in what happened. The fact that she put her children in a van with a predator is the society's fault for allowing predators to own vans (never mind that DS didn't own the van). The fact that she made her children shop for hours with a predator is the legislators' fault for allowing predators inside shops. The fact that she let Cherish go off in the night with a dangerous sex offender to get a cheeseburger is the prison system's fault because they should tattoo offenders' faces with the notice, 'don't let your children go for food runs with this individual because he's a child molester'. Because otherwise letting your children go wherever with strangers at any time of the night is A-OK...
 
  • #703
I have such a hard time with this one because I know horrible crimes happen to people out of the blue all the time, and I don't want to minimize those. I also believe in the kindness of strangers. But geez... I mean... I just can't even understand this at all. I can usually find some tiny morsel of understanding but in this string of events I just can't. I've tried, and I can't.
 
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http://www.news4jax.com/news/intern...-mom/-/475880/22043388/-/gjle7fz/-/index.html


WOW!!
So she's a psychic and knew that Cherish was going to be raped and murdered? smdh

I still keep thinking about Shaniya Davis.
I think she and Cherish may have more in common than we realize.

Billy Dunn had reporters at her house a lot. Not exactly the same circumstances, but another case where I felt the mother exhibited strange behavior.

I put her in a different category just because her child was allegedly MISSING.

Cherish's killer was caught before R did interviews.
All her interviews were done after Cherish was already presumed or confirmed dead.
 
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I don't think she is psychic. I believe that she noticed full well that the perp was fixated on Cherish. Wouldn't be that hard to figure out what he wanted.
 
  • #708
From the article:

"Throughout the conversation, the victim's mother told (911 dispatcher P.L.) Robinson that she feared the suspect was going to rape and kill her daughter," the report says.

Wtf??!?!

I cannot get over this.
I could have understood if she was just so naive that an abduction never crossed her mind.
But obviously it DID cross her mind and she was aware of the possibility.
This is just unbelievable. Why there hasn't been someone else charged I have no idea. :twocents:
 
  • #709
http://www.news4jax.com/news/intern...-mom/-/475880/22043388/-/gjle7fz/-/index.html


WOW!!
So she's a psychic and knew that Cherish was going to be raped and murdered? smdh

Well, the people in the comment section do certainly not hold back...

It seems everybody who talked with RP had some doubts regarding the truthfulness of her story and the report does not imo properly address that there might have been a reason why. :jail::jail::jail:


But with this report implying there was misconduct by LE I'm so afraid that she will sue and end up earning good money for her part in giving Cherish to this monster.
 
  • #710
I still keep thinking about Shaniya Davis.
I think she and Cherish may have more in common than we realize.

RSBM

That's a terrifying and chilling thought. But it does make me wonder about that, even if I don't want to.
I guess LE is going to hold onto that WalMart footage until the trial.
 
  • #711
Well, the people in the comment section do certainly not hold back...

It seems everybody who talked with RP had some doubts regarding the truthfulness of her story and the report does not imo properly address that there might have been a reason why. :jail::jail::jail:


But with this report implying there was misconduct by LE I'm so afraid that she will sue and end up earning good money for her part in giving Cherish to this monster.

She's probably already got a lawyer. Another way for her to avoid getting a job & supporting herself.
 
  • #712
Has the mother been identified by LE as a suspect or POI in any way?
 
  • #713
I am pretty sure LE are immune from lawsuits if they are within the scope of their work. You can't sue LE for making mistakes.
Or people would be suing them for not solving cases day in and day out.
 
  • #714
Oh dear Lord above.... I only have one thing to say because everything else has already been said... Please don't let them have the remaining two kids!


The more I read about some of the cases here, the more I think legal sterilization needs to be brought back. Some people just do NOT need to have kids!

Welcome to the dark side 2hope4. That has been my way of thinking for about 5 years now. Forced sterilization and people required by law to take parenting classes before they have children and requirements for state registration everytime you have a child with income verification and dna tests. Yeah I know it will never happen, but a girl can dream.
 
  • #715
I am pretty sure LE are immune from lawsuits if they are within the scope of their work. You can't sue LE for making mistakes.
Or people would be suing them for not solving cases day in and day out.

Not to mention I think poor little Cherish was killed before RP started wondering where her cheeseburger was. The police changing their alert code wouldn't have changed the outcome unfortunately.
 
  • #716
I'm disheartened after reading the Internal Affairs story. I can see why LE may have questioned the validity of Rayne's story, but it's the old adage ... prepare for the worst and hope for the best. They should have initially taken her seriously, they could have scaled back had her report been false. I've seen LE do this in other missing children cases. Would it have saved Cherish's life? Unfortunately, we will never know the answer to that question.

That said, I'm even more disturbed that Rayne will never be held accountable for her role in Cherish's death. If those two beautiful little girls are ever given back to her, it will be a tragedy.
 
  • #717
BBM

Some theories that came to mind:

1) Rayne had a cellphone originally, but left it in the van and or in the stroller.

2) Rayne borrowed DS's phone to inform AP of her good fortune (DS's offer)and plans

3) Rayne told AP before she left home that she would be going to DG first, then Walmart, all on foot.

4) Rayne does this is as a routine. Starts at the Dollar General, then convinces someone to give she and her children a ride to Walmart.

The problem with 3 and 4 is it seems bizarrely convenient that DS just happened to 'have a gift card' for a store she was planning on going to all along. (Unless she telegraphed 'oh, I wish we could afford to shop at Walmart' and he concocted his "oh, I have a walmart gift card" on the spot.)

If her story was she was shopping for dresses at DG, couldn't afford what she wanted, then DS offered this Walmart giftcard, so she agreed to pile the kids in his van to meet his wife at the Walmart....then who told AP she was leaving DG and now headed to Walmart?

Or...did she call AP from a payphone at the Walmart before calling police? And then she hangs up, calls 911 (or had security do it) then AP is calling back?

I thought there was some article way back about how AP was talking to a neighbor about what's taking RP so long at Walmart, which, if true, would imply he knew her change of location before Cherish went missing. I'll go see if I can find it.


You forgot theory number 5, which has been my theory for the past three months ... Rayne and DS knew each other prior to meeting in Dollar General on the night Cherish was killed. I got banned early on for posting this and theorizing that this was not random, but as the facts are leaking out I'm even more convinced than ever.

For those of you newer to this thread, got back to #1 when they interview Ahasdpon (or however he spells it today) Pearson on his doorstep the day after his stepdaughter is murdered and he refers to her killer as "Donald." It was not lost on me that he has some familiarity with this man. I've read the reports on DS and he was a drug addict. Who do addicts hang out with?
 
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IMO, this latest news just emphasizes how absurd it is for RP to pretend to stand on high giving her media interviews from a soapbox looking down at all the people/systems she blames, pointing fingers at the police, child predator laws, bio dad...

She actively and repeatedly endangered all three girls the night Cherish was raped and murdered. She is now fighting for custody and can't even be nice to her two surviving children for two 1-hour intervals a week. She is 'trying to regain custody' but somehow can't manage not to be emotional abusive to her baby girls for 120 minutes a week, while she knows people are observing her. :notgood:
 
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