GUILTY FL - Cherish Perrywinkle, 8, Jacksonville, 21 June 2013 #3

[Magdalyn]

Rayne Perrywinkle, the mother of the slain 8-year-old girl, is trying to regain custody of her other two daughters, 5-year-old Neveah and 4-year-old Destiny. Attorneys for the state and the children requested she be required to undergo an immediate drug test because of her appearance.

Attorneys said they want an audit of the accounts set up to receive donations to see where the money has been going.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/perryw...rief/-/475880/21386464/-/wnbibvz/-/index.html

 

[Magdalyn]

Do you read this quote like I do? :waitasec:




How is money going to help Cherish now?

Agreed. Cherish is gone, and Rayne doesn't have custody of any dependents. If there is donated money, it should be put in some sort of trust for the girls. Or to DFCS to fund some sort of "How not to hand your kid off to a stranger" seminars.

In the article I just posted from News4Jax, it was implied money has been spent from these funds and the state wants to know where it went.

It certainly wasn't for the funeral, the plot, headstone, etc.; those were all donated.

And yeah, her concern for where the money is set off my hinky meter. She doesn't work, and no child support is coming in from Billy now. Why can't I have the Cherish money!

 

[Magdalyn]

That article is all about her.



JMO, if she doesn't blame herself she hasn't learned a thing.


No one wishes that on anyone. The thing is, if you put your children in a strange creepy van with a strange creepy man and then let him pay too much attention to your children and go off into the night with one of them, you SHOULD foresee that there might be trouble and think again.

I don't think these interviews are likely to help people who are angry at her to soften their attitude because it seems she doesn't acknowledge any part of any responsibility for not protecting Cherish and her other children from DS and it's mostly just about how bad she feels, nothing about Cherish.

BBM

I thought this as well. I am not a fan of blaming the victim. But in this case, she played a huge part in making Cherish completely available to a complete stranger and prime for the taking. She was not acting as a mother in this situation, she wasn't even acting as a concerned babysitter. IMO, because of this, she lost the 'victim' status parents are generally afforded.

Most mothers blame themselves for things that are beyond their control. They will make up ways to blame themselves---"If I'd just left 5 minutes sooner, I wouldn't have driven through that intersection at that time and we wouldn't have been hit by that truck..."

Not once in any of these interviews has she said, "I'm disgusted with myself, I should have known better, I let my baby down..."

Instead she's disgusted with the justice system, disgusted with laws, and Donald Smith was a Mensa level braniac who was so inhumanly clever to out-fox the stellar helicopter parenting of Rayne Perrywinkle. :facepalm:

 

[Donjeta]

Aharon Pearson, the girls' father, as well as his father, Tom Pearson, are also fighting for custody. The daughters were not in court, nor was Aharon Pearson.

Why was AP not there?

Edit: he was apparently on the phone, the reporter says on the video
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/conten...nkle-in-court-for/OCf6_BMPbUelTluDMqlTOQ.cspx

"Despite the negativity I have from a lot of the public, when the truth comes out it will come out and I stand by what I believe in and I have a long battle ahead and I have to fight for Cherish and I have to fight for all the other children and D and N also," Rayne Perrywinkle said.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/conten...hting-for-custody/ce6TL8PcY06Lq2CJpvdgYA.cspx

So what does she believe in? Which truth will come out? It's weird in the video how she seems to add D and N as an afterthought. Oh yeah, this was supposed to be about my children.

 

[Flossie JMO]

http://www.news4jax.com/news/perryw...rief/-/475880/21386464/-/wnbibvz/-/index.html

I think an audit of where the money went/is going is wise. I also noted: "Attorneys for the state and the children requested she be required to undergo an immediate drug test because of her appearance. The judge ordered it and immediately after the hearing, it appears Rayne went to get it done. The state said in court that she submitted to a drug test when the girls were taken away and passed."

 

[Donjeta]

At one point, the judge expressed condolences, but there was no reunification. Instead, Perrywinkle was ordered to drug court under heavy security for screening.

"We'll see what that reveals," said the judge.

The screen was ordered after an attorney told the court that it has been reported that Perrywinkle had used prescription medication that was not hers.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/topst...rywinkle-tries-to-regain-custody-of-daughters

 

[vasportsmom]

New article.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/cheris...eath/-/475880/21361604/-/7hpm8uz/-/index.html


Now, RP says she plans to do everything in her power to prevent what happened to her daughter from happening to another child. She's going to hope stricter laws will be put in place.

If she is going to do everything in power to protect other child from suffering the same fate as Cherish, might I suggest she start at home and immediately cease fighting to regain custody of her younger children and take steps to ensure that she never brings another child into this world!

I also don't understand the drug screening/classes deal. This woman didn't send Cherish into the lion's den because she was wasted, she did it because has ZERO PARENTING SKILLS. My G-d, you can't teach what this creature is lacking. She has no common sense and even less maternal instinct.

 

[vasportsmom]

BBM

I thought this as well. I am not a fan of blaming the victim. But in this case, she played a huge part in making Cherish completely available to a complete stranger and prime for the taking. She was not acting as a mother in this situation, she wasn't even acting as a concerned babysitter. IMO, because of this, she lost the 'victim' status parents are generally afforded.

Most mothers blame themselves for things that are beyond their control. They will make up ways to blame themselves---"If I'd just left 5 minutes sooner, I wouldn't have driven through that intersection at that time and we wouldn't have been hit by that truck..."

Not once in any of these interviews has she said, "I'm disgusted with myself, I should have known better, I let my baby down..."

Instead she's disgusted with the justice system, disgusted with laws, and Donald Smith was a Mensa level braniac who was so inhumanly clever to out-fox the stellar helicopter parenting of Rayne Perrywinkle. :facepalm:

Dylan Redwine's mom has blamed herself for sending her son on a court ordered visit. Jessica Ridgeway's mom blamed herself for being asleep after working 3rd shift and missing a call. We all know how badly Jaycee Duggard's mother beat herself up. None of these women played any role in their children's disappearance but they blame themselves because that is what mothers do. RP handed her child off to the SO that she invited into their life and not only does she take no responsibility but she whines about being revictimized by those that do blame her. She doesn't even stop there. She has to whine a bit more about not receiving any donated funds!

This woman is a total WTF for me. If the case weren't so tragic I would think that she couldn't possibly be real. She knows that she has been poorly received by the public but she plows on with the same insensitive and offensive lines. Does she think that we have forgotten the dead child at the center of this or the circumstances of that child's death? Does she not realize that we are not as shallow and easily distracted (hello cheeseburger) as she is? A child is dead because of her and she wants us to care that she isn't getting free money? Yeah, not happening.

 

[Magdalyn]

In this recent spate of interviews Ms. Rayne has been giving, she's been flashing some document, proof, saying this is what she's been waiting for, or something like this. I found a news story where she was flashing it and I could freeze the frame to read it.

It's a hand written letter from (allegedly) some employee of the Salvation Army on Salvation Army letterhead stating that BJ visited and didn't come back.

Seriously? After the death of Cherish and the loss of her daughters, THIS is what she's been waiting for? :facepalm:

Here's my unprofessional transcription of the letter (not written until YEARS after the 'incident' happened.) :

8/18/08


This is to inform you that on 1/25/05 doing (sic) lunch that Mr. Billy Jareau from orange pjx (sic) arrive here to 900 West Adams ST to visit. 12:15 he departed and suppose to return for discussion of income and wellbeing of his child and he didn't return.

So uh ... she needed this letter/document for what? To show the judge? How does this show her children will be safe and well cared for by her? Color me confused. :scared:

link:http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/...rywinkle-tries-to-regain-custody-of-daughters

 

[Magdalyn]

At one point, the judge expressed condolences, but there was no reunification. Instead, Perrywinkle was ordered to drug court under heavy security for screening.

"We'll see what that reveals," said the judge.

The screen was ordered after an attorney told the court that it has been reported that Perrywinkle had used prescription medication that was not hers.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/topst...rywinkle-tries-to-regain-custody-of-daughters

What? But remember in that fluffy 'journalist spent a week with her' interview she did over the week after Cherish died, she, out of the blue, stated that some neighbor or some such was offering her prescription meds and how she wouldn't do that or something like that. Must go find that article. BRB. :lookingitup:

Edit: Here we go...

Visitors stopped by every day. She knew some of them. Most of them she’d never met. Everyone had their own advice.

“I know you’re going to have some rough days,” one woman said. “You need to know you’re a good mother.”

The woman suggested some of the pills that had helped her deal with her own daughter’s death.

As she named her medications of choice, Rayne emphatically told her she wouldn’t take anything she wasn’t prescribed.

Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://mayportmirror.jacksonville.c...-old-cherish-perrywinkles-death#ixzz2bUk0fXlU

 

[vasportsmom]

In this recent spate of interviews Ms. Rayne has been giving, she's been flashing some document, proof, saying this is what she's been waiting for, or something like this. I found a news story where she was flashing it and I could freeze the frame to read it.

It's a hand written letter from (allegedly) some employee of the Salvation Army on Salvation Army letterhead stating that BJ visited and didn't come back.

Seriously? After the death of Cherish and the loss of her daughters, THIS is what she's been waiting for? :facepalm:

Here's my unprofessional transcription of the letter (not written until YEARS after the 'incident' happened.) :



So uh ... she needed this letter/document for what? To show the judge? How does this show her children will be safe and well cared for by her? Color me confused. :scared:

link:http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/...rywinkle-tries-to-regain-custody-of-daughters

My guess is she doesn't like the support and praise that BJ is getting and she wants to prove that he abandoned Cherish. Stupid plan for multiple reasons, namely that court records show he fought for Cherish and SHE handed Cherish over to a SO for a cheeseburger, but common sense is not RP's strong suit. She will never be accused of over thinking anything.

 

[Donjeta]

In this recent spate of interviews Ms. Rayne has been giving, she's been flashing some document, proof, saying this is what she's been waiting for, or something like this. I found a news story where she was flashing it and I could freeze the frame to read it.

It's a hand written letter from (allegedly) some employee of the Salvation Army on Salvation Army letterhead stating that BJ visited and didn't come back.

Seriously? After the death of Cherish and the loss of her daughters, THIS is what she's been waiting for? :facepalm:

Here's my unprofessional transcription of the letter (not written until YEARS after the 'incident' happened.) :



So uh ... she needed this letter/document for what? To show the judge? How does this show her children will be safe and well cared for by her? Color me confused. :scared:

link:http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/...rywinkle-tries-to-regain-custody-of-daughters

It was also strange how the reporter introduces it as a document that shows that both parents were involved in Cherish's life when it's one day in the life that shows zip all.

Why not show the letter from the judge that said that she's a great mom. I would have thought it'd be more to the point she wants to make.

 

[Donjeta]

My guess is she doesn't like the support and praise that BJ is getting and she wants to prove that he abandoned Cherish. Stupid plan for multiple reasons, namely that court records show he fought for Cherish and SHE handed Cherish over to a SO for a cheeseburger, but common sense is not RP's strong suit. She will never be accused of over thinking anything.

Whatever BJ did or didn't do just seems totally irrelevant now as it's not him on the other side of this custody battle and Cherish is dead. So let's say that he's a great dad, or let's say that he's a hopeless deadbeat. None of that says anything about RP's ability to care for her other children.

i'm guessing that it's a document that she's been used to waving around when in court about Cherish or talking wth the DCF and it's a hard habit to break.

Perrywinkle said her focus now is to reunite with her two daughters, ages 6 and 4.

"I have a long battle ahead and I have to fight for Cherish and I have to fight for all the other children," said Perrywinkle.

She is scheduled to attend a hearing Thursday and said she has legal representation to fight for her children.

Talking about a long battle makes it sund like she desn't even really believe herself that she will be able to show she can care for them.

 

[Magdalyn]

It was also strange how the reporter introduces it as a document that shows that both parents were involved in Cherish's life when it's one day in the life that shows zip all.

Why not show the letter from the judge that said that she's a great mom. I would have thought it'd be more to the point she wants to make.

No kidding. I also thought it showed she was unable to provide adequately for her child (she was living at a Salvation Army homeless shelter) then, and now eight years have passed, and I'm guessing she is currently homeless, nearly homeless, or in government housing. It shows, IMO, that in 8 years, she has been unable to improve her financial/employment situation, but she can sure continue to bring new children into poverty with her. It also shows she once had a live child, the one who lived at the homeless shelter with her, and now that child is dead partly because of dangerous/negligent parental decision making on her part.

Also, by the date indicated on the letter, it shows she was all, "Hey, lady, remember how three years ago that guy came in to see me? You know, before I got in trouble with CPS for shaking my baby and for not being here when daycare dropped Cherish off? Can you write up a letter, on professional letterhead, saying that he came in to visit one day and never came back? Because, uh, see....I only shook infant Cherish in frustration that one time, and was only late 3 hours that one day...and see...he NEVER CAME BACK!" :facepalm:

 

[vasportsmom]

Whatever BJ did or didn't do just seems totally irrelevant now as it's not him on the other side of this custody battle and Cherish is dead. So let's say that he's a great dad, or let's say that he's a hopeless deadbeat. None of that says anything about RP's ability to care for her other children.

i'm guessing that it's a document that she's been used to waving around when in court about Cherish or talking wth the DCF and it's a hard habit to break.



Talking about a long battle makes it sund like she desn't even really believe herself that she will be able to show she can care for them.

I don't think that RP (I hate typing her first name because it is 1 letter off from my niece's name) thinks that it is irrelevant. Deflection is her MO. Cherish knew better than going with strangers! DS was the creepy, scratch that he was a world class charming manipulator! None of this would have happened if BJ had returned to that homeless shelter way back when! Look everywhere but at the fail mother in the room and give her the $ raised in the name of the child she helped murder.

She makes me sick. Fail mothers are the one thing I can not even pretend to tolerate. You shouldn't get 2nd chances when one child dies because of your failures.

 

[Magdalyn]

Whatever BJ did or didn't do just seems totally irrelevant now as it's not him on the other side of this custody battle and Cherish is dead. So let's say that he's a great dad, or let's say that he's a hopeless deadbeat. None of that says anything about RP's ability to care for her other children.

i'm guessing that it's a document that she's been used to waving around when in court about Cherish or talking wth the DCF and it's a hard habit to break.



Talking about a long battle makes it sund like she desn't even really believe herself that she will be able to show she can care for them.

Well she's been giving birth over twenty years and has yet to managing raising a child past around the age of ten or eleven, I believe. She abandoned her oldest (saved that child's life, likely), and we all know what happened to Cherish at age 8.

I seriously fear for both of those children should they ever be returned to her.

 

[Donjeta]

I don't think that RP (I hate typing her first name because it is 1 letter off from my niece's name) thinks that it is irrelevant. Deflection is her MO. Cherish knew better than going with strangers! DS was the creepy, scratch that he was a world class charming manipulator! None of this would have happened if BJ had returned to that homeless shelter way back when! Look everywhere but at the fail mother in the room and give her the $ raised in the name of the child she helped murder.

She makes me sick. Fail mothers are the one thing I can not even pretend to tolerate. You shouldn't get 2nd chances when one child dies because of your failures.

Yeah... she wants to deflect but it doesn't look like it's working. took a look at the comment sections in the news articles and it seems that it just gets peple angrier than back when this was fresh in the news.

The smart thing to do would be to grieve in private.

Perrywinkle, who was visibly shaken when talking about her experience, is angry that anyone would blame her for what happened. She said to blame her is to make her a victim twice

"I feel a lot of people blame me for this," she said.

It's more or less akin to saying that you should get a free pass for child neglect if the children happen to lose their lives because of it.

 

[Donjeta]

Okay so I think that the fluffy article implies the document is supposed to prove that BJ knew about Cherish but lied that he didn't. I expect Rayne showed it to that reporter too. It is a safety blanket.

The day before Christmas in 2004, Rayne Perrywinkle went into labor. It was 43 degrees outside, and Rayne didn’t have a home.

Rayne and Cherish stayed with the Salvation Army.

One month later, a woman at the shelter would document that a Billy Jarreau had arrived. The woman said he told her he’d return. He never did.

When Rayne would ask for child support two years later, Billy told the court it was the first he’d heard of Cherish. Two months after a DNA test, the father’s attorney would say Billy should have custody.

Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://mayportmirror.jacksonville.c...-old-cherish-perrywinkles-death#ixzz2bUy2Kchg

 

[sfbaynancydrew]

I really think that Rayne is mentally ill and brain damaged (probably from years of drug use).

I'm not saying that to be cruel, I worked with dual-diagnosed individuals for years and she talks/behaves exactly like my old clients used to. She's never had the judgment and intelligence to properly care for children and she never will. As a society we would be doing those two girls an injustice to ever return them to her as she is permanently mentally disabled. I can't even get angry with her, she has no clue and that sad piece of paper she's parading about just proves her lack of intelligence. It's depressing that the media is exploiting her to be honest.

 

[vasportsmom]

Yeah... she wants to deflect but it doesn't look like it's working. took a look at the comment sections in the news articles and it seems that it just gets peple angrier than back when this was fresh in the news.

The smart thing to do would be to grieve in private.



It's more or less akin to saying that you should get a free pass for child neglect if the children happen to lose their lives because of it.

It definitely isn't working but she doesn't seem to grasp that. The statement "I feel like people are blaming me" is proof of that. People are outright saying they blame her. The discussions about her aren't taking place in dark corners to protect her delicate sensibilities, it is all out in the open and she knows it. Any reporter worth a thing is telling her what is being said to see her reaction alone yet she only "feels" people are blaming her? That isn't denial, it is deflection with an unhealthy dose of delusion. She reminds me of teenagers that have gotten busted due to their own stupidity (my son stole some vodka from the freezer, drunk it and refilled the bottle with water not realizing that vodka doesn't freeze so the frozen bottle became a big glaring "busted" sign) yet try to throw everyone else under the bus to protect themselves (my son & his best friend tripped all over themselves trying to get the other under the bus wheels). People would move on from her a hell of a lot quicker if she just stepped up and took responsibility for her role in Cherish's death.