GUILTY FL - Christian Aguilar, 18, UF student, Gainesville, 20 Sept 2012 #1

[SurfieTX]

Anyone else here think he dug a grave in the day(s) before he met up with Christian?

 

[Truthful Lies]

Anyone else here think he dug a grave in the day(s) before he met up with Christian?

Good idea - I really hope not, but he'd really risk being seen. There are plenty of secluded parks...and of course the infamous Ocala National Forrest, Silver springs areas, etc. It's pretty rural.

 

[nursebeeme]

Anyone else here think he dug a grave in the day(s) before he met up with Christian?

did they say what day he bought the shovel? maybe that is how they are triangulating the search locations from his cell phone pings. Yes I could see him doing that if it were premeditated.

 

[sarx]

I had no idea they had car trailing dogs. I swear I'm always learning something new when you post.

Need to clarify here. They are not "car trailing dogs", merely dogs that have been trained in being able to trail a scent that is coming out of a car. It's definitely a different mixture and not all dogs can do it, and even those that train in it can have limited success, but it is worth a try (if they've got dogs that do it). It's kinda an extra specialty within trailing. Hope that makes sense.

 

[nursebeeme]

also: think about the duct tape as a premeditated item...

 

[sarx]

Keep in mind that he would have to carry/drag after driving up, so this is going to limit distances from the vehicle. Unless they both walked in, but I kind of doubt that. There were talks of guns being sold, any talk of him still having any?

 

[Truthful Lies]

Keep in mind that he would have to carry/drag after driving up, so this is going to limit distances from the vehicle. Unless they both walked in, but I kind of doubt that. There were talks of guns being sold, any talk of him still having any?

This seems like a silly idea, but they could have both walked in if the wanted to smoke reefer or something like that (PURE speculation - I have no idea if either of them did). Pretty common for people that live in those kind of apts they did to not smoke at home - multiple roommates.

 

[nursebeeme]

Police say the last known activity for Christian Aguilar's cellphone is at 8:14 p.m. on Thursday when it was powered off. There was no location attached to this powering off.



Read more: http://www.wesh.com/news/central-fl...16749146/-/ufgfjaz/-/index.html#ixzz27b7VCq2R

hey sarx... check out the headline at the above link... I think it is a typo but maybe someone made a lil slip in the media?

 

[Coldpizza]

I really doubt Pedro thought about pings on his cell phone being able to track his movements to a certain extent. I just hope it's enough to find Christian.

 

[sarx]

hey sarx... check out the headline at the above link... I think it is a typo but maybe someone made a lil slip in the media?

Yeah, that's quite a typo....
Perhaps they should go back through if they haven't and look at reports called in and see if any were for shots fired.

 

[Coldpizza]

Keep in mind that he would have to carry/drag after driving up, so this is going to limit distances from the vehicle. Unless they both walked in, but I kind of doubt that. There were talks of guns being sold, any talk of him still having any?

Bravo likes to shoot BB guns, and he likes to play paintball, the younger Aguilar said.

"He sold his guns to move up here," Alexander Aguilar said.

He was interested in being a soldier and wanted to join ROTC. He sent an application to UF and to West Point, the younger Aguilar said, but was rejected.

http://www.ocala.com/article/20120925/ARTICLES/120929806?p=3&tc=pg

That's the article I'm aware of but gatorgirl is pretty on top of the articles and may be able to reference another.

 

[gatorgirl2012]

Bravo likes to shoot BB guns, and he likes to play paintball, the younger Aguilar said.

"He sold his guns to move up here," Alexander Aguilar said.

He was interested in being a soldier and wanted to join ROTC. He sent an application to UF and to West Point, the younger Aguilar said, but was rejected.

http://www.ocala.com/article/20120925/ARTICLES/120929806?p=3&tc=pg

That's the article I'm aware of but gatorgirl is pretty on top of the articles and may be able to reference another.

Coldpizza, you're right. That is the only article available at the moment that has referenced Pedro having/using guns.

 

[Truthful Lies]

I always worried about going missing in Gainesville - I know that's silly, but a rough divorce, being a WS member with an active imagination, etc. I didn't even like to drive near the Ocala National Forest - I'd go out of the way not to if I needed to go that way. PS - if Bravo was going to Santa Fe, he'd be more familiar with west gainesville rather than east, I would think. Downtown isn't near those areas so even going to the clubs wouldn't have given him much knowledge. But remember, Gainesville isn't that big. At all. It's the outlying areas that are more like the central FL we all know - vast. Hmm..another thought is him going down Waldo Road (connects to 39th) and heading towards Interlachen, etc. There are huge expanses of trails down there and just...tons of land.

 

[Truthful Lies]

http://www.gainesville.com/article/...-bought-shovel-duct-tape-before-disappearance

So North of the Airport...he would have kept heading towards Waldo areas, etc. Odd he would go that way. Certainly not the way I would. Can someone tell me what time the altercation was - i'll tell you where areas are trafficky around that time...which is why he may have avoided them.

PS - wasn't there a meteor shower recently? I would go to that area to watch those sometimes rather than paynes prarie which would be crowded. Wonder if Bravo was there for any of those and went - that would give him a much better idea of where to hide a body. I'm sure he visited before moving up there also.

 

[Coldpizza]

According to Pedro's (1 of 3 versions) he left Christian in the parking lot around 6 pm.

 

[SurfieTX]

According to Pedro's (1 of 3 versions) he left Christian in the parking lot around 6 pm.

Christian's phone went off at 8:14 p.m.

(Just wanted to add in that little detail)

 

[Coldpizza]

I've found three different articles stating that it was recovered but I also think it was misinterpretation/bad reporting.

Also, there will be another live police briefing at 2 pm.

BBM and bumping
This is the link for the earlier presser.

http://miami.cbslocal.com/live-video/

 

[Truthful Lies]

Christian's phone went off at 8:14 p.m.

(Just wanted to add in that little detail)

Oh boo - but Thursday night is a big night for the clubs so prob why he wouldn't have headed south. Too much traffic - esp around 2 AM when they have to close down. It's swamped around there at both of those time and in the main areas.

 

[gatorgirl2012]

BBM and bumping
This is the link for the earlier presser.

http://miami.cbslocal.com/live-video/

I also have http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/livestream/default.aspx open to see who streams first.

 

[nursebeeme]

According to Pedro's (1 of 3 versions) he left Christian in the parking lot around 6 pm.

yeah... gravely injured.. and then instead of calling 911 or a friend he powers off his phone at 8pm

next story pedro

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