NOTGUILTY FL - Collin Griffith, 17, stabs mother to death 1 year after fatally shooting father - Sep. 11, 2024


Teen Murders Mother Months After Killing Father [Collin Griffith Pretrial Hearing]​


In pretrial hearings for the murder case against Collin Griffith, the judge allows the admission of texts allegedly exposing Griffith's motive for killing his mother, Catherine Griffith. 17-year-old Collin was never charged for killing his father months ago, claiming self-defense, and is now accused of stabbing his mother to death.
 

Teen Murders Mother Months After Killing Father [Collin Griffith Pretrial Hearing]​


In pretrial hearings for the murder case against Collin Griffith, the judge allows the admission of texts allegedly exposing Griffith's motive for killing his mother, Catherine Griffith. 17-year-old Collin was never charged for killing his father months ago, claiming self-defense, and is now accused of stabbing his mother to death.
Just have to wonder IMO, why an investigation is not also now underway again into the father’s death months prior? Hard not to believe some possible connection or pattern here?

And would hope that if not underway, it is not for fear of what was done prior? Some have noted the mother might well not have been slayed had the father’s death been examined and determined to have been deliberate. And actions taken then for that act. MOO
 
Text messages between the defendant’s mother Catherine (victim) and the defendant will come in.

Investigators uncovered text messages which Catherine stated she was going to expose him for killing his father, and that it was not self-defense.

Judge decided the text messages will come in; however, the jury cant know that it was the defendant's own father that he killed.
 

Opening statements.

Defense is hitting hard, blaming the victim.
Bbm.
Smdh.Reprehensible.
After the fact now, but Collin looks dead behind his eyes.
Nothing there, not an ounce of humanity left.
Praying and hoping fervently there's a way to ensure he is never free again !

Rest in peace, Charles and Catherine.
May justice be thorough.

Text messages between the defendant’s mother Catherine (victim) and the defendant will come in.

Investigators uncovered text messages which Catherine stated she was going to expose him for killing his father, and that it was not self-defense.

Judge decided the text messages will come in; however, the jury cant know that it was the defendant's own father that he killed.
Bbm
Rbm.

Re. the black bolded : So there it is.
We'll prob. never know for sure, but I'm leaning heavily towards Catherines' account of Charles' (imo)murder.

Re. the red bolded : Why not ?
Even with the most impartial and unknowing jury, there are many who know the dad was shot, so imo they may already know this.
Do not really understand why it can't be brought up, but that's how the law works.
Omo.
 
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"Parent murderer Collin Griffith
sits emotionless as court hears how he
'brutally killed his mother'."

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"Parent murderer Collin Griffith
sits emotionless as court hears how he
'brutally killed his mother'.

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So angry at him right now.
He looks almost as if he's grinning or at least pleased with himself.
Ugh.
Omo.
 
Not sure who is following the trial live but is the defense really suggesting that the mother is responsible for her own death because she signed him out of his Baker holds???

I'm not even doing self-defense here. Her fault because she somehow provoked him, resulting in his not defending himself but reacting angrily? What kind of defense is that? She made me mad so I killed her? Her fault for making me mad?

Yikes.

JMO
 
Family dysfunction. Mom actually said she'd accept death if it meant spending more time with her son.

Dysfunctional but heart-rending too. He was her baby, and I can imagine that's hard for any mother to let go of. Probably under the fair notion that they could maximize on good times and outgrow/outpace bad times.

Plus it sounds like the adults had mental health issues of their own. Dysfunction. Violence. Disregulation.

But none of that equals being responsible for her own murder.

IMO he's a dangerous boy. When he doesn't get his way.

JMO
 
Admittedly late to this case so vague on details -- should like he is an angry reactive violent disregukated young man..... baker holds make sense.

If the allegations against her are even partly true, why didn’t she lose custody? Overzealous intermediaries who thought assorted interventions could save them?

I'm getting a sense of serious dysfunction the board. Without a thousand red  flags threats.

Violence was inevitable.

Whose fault is that? Rhetorical question, of society at large.

JMO
 
Interesting side discussion (hearing outside the presence of the jury), whether a parent has a right to read what's on a child's phone.

Judge says, while we can afford a child a degree of privacy, condensed don't have the actual right to privacy. Further, given the nature of this mother (which the judge he calls a surveillance state), the child should have been aware that his texts would not be private from his mother.

Interesting side bar.

JMO
 
"Parent murderer Collin Griffith
sits emotionless as court hears how he
'brutally killed his mother'."

:(

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And let me guess, and no IANAL…. but I imagine nothing can be mentioned or introduced as to the slaying of the father months prior. SMH. MOO
 
And let me guess, and no IANAL…. but I imagine nothing can be mentioned or introduced as to the slaying of the father months prior. SMH. MOO
IIUC the judge ruled that the State can present through witnesses that he killed before (but not that it was his father, a relative or within his home) but also that he wasn't charged at the time.

JMO
 
IIUC the judge ruled that the State can present through witnesses that he killed before (but not that it was his father, a relative or within his home) but also that he wasn't charged at the time.

JMO
My question about the jury is if they're going to eventually put 2 and 2 together.... the chronology of events- CG kills a person in Oklahoma, moves to Florida to be with mom (hmm I wonder where dad is now? Is he going to be there to testify to support his son? Wait no? Why? Where is he? Huh?)... and mom is now deceased.

Is grandma going to take the stand? She is next if CG goes free. He is frightening.
 

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