FL - Coralrose Fullwood, 6, found murdered, North Port, 17 Sept 2006

[RiverRat]

http://news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060925/NEWS01/60925017/1075

About 150 people attended a funeral this morning for the 6-year old girl who was slain Sept. 17 in North Port.

Coralrose Fullwood was remembered as a sweet, lively little girl.

"She was just a joy," said Ellen Fullwood, the girl's mother. "She was truly an angel here on Earth and she went home."

The rabbi who officiated at the service in Fort Myers reflected on the nature of her untimely death.

"Any death is difficult, but especially one of this nature is beyond human comprehension," he said. "It is only God who knows what happened, why it happened and the truth.

The service was held at Harvey-Englehardt-Metz Funeral Home in Fort Myers. Several police officers from North Port, including Police Chief Terry Lewis, attended the service.

 

[jubie]

He did not buy new shoes the night of the incident. He bought new shoes the night before his interview with the reporter, when he returned to the home A WEEK LATER. The reason this was mentioned in the article, was to illistrate that the authorities had taken his other shoes, and he had cooperated with their efforts, thus he had to buy new shoes. Jeeesh!

The 'Jeeesh' comment wasn't really necessary considerding your reply to my post isn't at the end of a long drawn out debate between us. :hand:


On the other hand, thank-you for clarifying that as I must have misread and I prefer to discuss accurate information.


Jubie

 

[j2mirish]

The 'Jeeesh' comment wasn't really necessary considerding your reply to my post isn't at the end of a long drawn out debate between us. :hand:


On the other hand, thank-you for clarifying that as I must have misread and I prefer to discuss accurate information.


Jubie

Jube- dont feel bad- I thought the same thing you did when I first read the article- then kinda re-read it again-
J2m

 

[PrayersForMaura]

They took her clothes too..

Investigators spent days scouring the family's home and the neighborhood for clues. Fullwood said they seized four computers, all of his and Coralrose's clothes, including the clean ones from the washer and dryer, and more than $100 in tip money from his closet.


http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060925/NEWS/609250641

I can't believe they took his "tip money".
These parents might be innocent.
I understand they have to be investigate and cleared and that their living conditions were deplorable, but that doesn't make the parents bad people!

However, it does concern me that they would move back into the home with their other younger kids when they do not know if someone kidnapped Coralrose or stalked her? Aren't they worried about their other kids possibly being harmed?

And why was she targeted in the home of 5 children?

Are they getting security now, such as a home alarm system?

What if Coralrose did wander out in the night and someone hit her on accident? I could see someone then hiding her body close by out of fear.
OR, maybe the father accidentally ran her over due to him being tired or whatnot from work and then he felt so bad, he couldn't tell his wife?

Kids wander outside sometimes. Not saying this is the absolute case in this situation. However, kids tend to hold onto something, too. Blankies, teddy bears, dolls ... etc.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

They took her clothes too..

Investigators spent days scouring the family's home and the neighborhood for clues. Fullwood said they seized four computers, all of his and Coralrose's clothes, including the clean ones from the washer and dryer, and more than $100 in tip money from his closet.


http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060925/NEWS/609250641

I wonder how many people read this part from the story:

For now, Fullwood said, he is focusing on cleaning up his house so he can regain custody of his children.

On Saturday, the house didn't smell like urine, and Fullwood and his stepson fumed over a North Port detective's testimony that the smell of urine was so overwhelming he could only stay inside 10 minutes at a time.

"He lied," VanderWoude said.

The reporter sounds as if they were at the house with the father and his step son.
I'm thinking that the smell of urine couldn't go away that fast; thus,
I believe that many things the media reported were greatly exaggerated.

 

[GlitchWizard]

I agree. When I left my husband, he was in the house for two weeks and depressed. My Aunt (who is a horrid, wretch of a lady) took photographs of the house to give to my landlord, who was my Grandmother.

To this day, I refuse to look at the photographs. I know they looked bad, because my stepfather tried to confront me with them.

I had SIX kids in that house and only one was mine. The parents of the other kids were there and all through the house. If it were that bad, they'd have shut me down.

But the words of one person who was eggagerating, and photographs taken from whatever angle she wanted to take them - after two weeks of a depressed man being alone in the house - with the dogs inside - I can't really blame my Grandmother for having fits.

You only know what you're told.

I wonder how many people read this part from the story:

For now, Fullwood said, he is focusing on cleaning up his house so he can regain custody of his children.

On Saturday, the house didn't smell like urine, and Fullwood and his stepson fumed over a North Port detective's testimony that the smell of urine was so overwhelming he could only stay inside 10 minutes at a time.

"He lied," VanderWoude said.

The reporter sounds as if they were at the house with the father and his step son.
I'm thinking that the smell of urine couldn't go away that fast; thus,
I believe that many things the media reported were greatly exaggerated.

 

[Linda7NJ]

The kids in that home were in danger of getting very sick. Roaches and e.coli from feces everywhere? Good God...DCF may have actually saved those kids lives by pulling them out!

When our mothers told us to wash our hands after using the toilet, it was because people can die from the bacteria that might be on our hands. E. coli is found in feces - human and animal - and those roaches were crawling through it, spreading it around the house. And it only takes a trace in the upper digestive system to cause havoc.

Also, I want to say that, for the record, my house is neat as a pin. No clutter, no mess. Smells like vanilla candles or ylang ylang (or Pine Sol or bleach) most of the time. There's nothing I enjoy more than pushing the Swiffer around the house or cleaning the window sills. It's a way of unwinding after putting in full-time+ hours at the law office. Takes about 40 minutes total per day to maintain.

Edited to add: I don't clean the window sills everyday. Swiffer, yes.

I am gonna PM you my home address, feel free to stop by!:crazy:

 

[PrayersForMaura]

You only know what you're told.

Very true, very true. Indeed, I agree. I just ache for the family.

I am ashamed to admit, but when I was a child and my parents moved into a house in the county, our house had a lot of roaches. It was embarrassing. I am one of several kids who were living in that house with my parents. It was hard back then to have a house full of kids and make ends meet. But my parents were not dirty people. They often got depressed, but we did not have food everywhere in a dirty kitchen; in fact, we got a whole new kitchen because my parents were remodeling the house! We tried everything to get rid of those darned icky roaches. It took a long time, but they eventually went away one by one. The house was infested before we moved in. It was near a creek, too, which didn't help with snakes, frogs and turtles popping in our yard, too.
Our cat and dogs would also kill any bug they saw!

Now my parents live in different houses, and all my brothers and sisters have their own houses too. Only one of my brothers had roaches, the rest of us all have none and we never once did. My brother was married to a woman who was a filthy housekeeper. I would go over there and the walls would be scribbled on, dishes with food piled up, and the poor dog needed some grooming. But my brother was working 12 hour shifts 5 to 6 days a week, trying to get as much overtime as possible because he had many kids and many bills, too. That was years ago. He has since divorced with joint custody of the kids and is engaged to a new woman who is very clean and a great housekeeper. No more of those disgusting bugs!

My point is, it's embarrassing to live with bugs of any kind, and I would bet once things start piling up and depression sets in, it is hard to regain control.
Sometimes this happens to me with work. I just did 10 loads of laundry Sunday. I have a few bags of mail to go through, mostly junk mail. But I just bought a shredder to help me out

All I am saying is ... it's not an excuse, it's an illness. Depression is tough.
Sounds like the parents were doing what they could to keep a roof over their family, and the bills paid.
I didn't read anything about the power being shut off or any of the utilities being shut off.
It's hard making ends meet with a lot of kids, and maybe they shouldn't have had so many kids if they couldn't keep up. However, they are a family and it seems like they love all their children.
I was an accident, my mom said, but she never regrets having had me, even after all those years our family struggled to get by.
My mom was and is a great housekeeper. I wish I was more like her in that respect. (She's a good cook, too).
But as I mentioned regarding my younger years, even with a clean house and many times of exterminating, it took a LONG time for my parents to get rid of those disgusting things. Yuck. I just screamed every time I saw one.

 

[kittykat1]

If I am reading all of this correctly, she was found in a blanket? Does this blanket belong to her?

 

[RubyJune]

kittykat1 - yes it was her blanket

 

[SewingDeb]

I believe it is her comforter.

 

[jubie]

Jube- dont feel bad- I thought the same thing you did when I first read the article- then kinda re-read it again-
J2m

Thanks J2 :blowkiss:

'Jeesh' is a term expressing exasperation and as I had only made one little mild comment regarding the shoes I found it a tad annoying. All done now.

I actually don't find any connection between them being terrible housekeepers and possibly murdering their daughter. Time will tell I hope and maybe the one responsible for her death will face the consequences for it. :behindbar

 

[Garnan]

Thanks J2 :blowkiss:

'Jeesh' is a term expressing exasperation and as I had only made one little mild comment regarding the shoes I found it a tad annoying. All done now.

I actually don't find any connection between them being terrible housekeepers and possibly murdering their daughter. Time will tell I hope and maybe the one responsible for her death will face the consequences for it. :behindbar

I am sorry about the Jeesh. I have been reading several different forums about this crime and I over-reacted to your post. The thing is, that somebody says something, maybe they aren't sure, like, "it bothers me he bought new shoes that night". This is totally not true, but 2 pages later, 20 posters have convicted him of the crime because "he bought new shoes that night". All the links are previously posted. If you are going to comment, at least read the links and be knowledgeable.

Again, I am sorry about the Jeesh, but I was exasperated. Again, if you are unsure of the situation, at least say, "did I read that right, he went shopping the night his daughter was killed?". I mean come on....

 

[Amraann]

IN the south, roaches are a constant problem. No matter how clean you keep your house, the buggers show up. The house could have already been infested, but that's what bug spray is bought for. Their belongings that they moved into the house could have been infested. Again, all they had to do was go to the store and buy bug spray. Rotting food is no excuse. Obviously this home was in deplorable conditions. I agree with the psych eval the judge suggested for the mom.

Actually that isn't true.. to bug spray a roach infested house will do nothing.
Now if its an apt or condo they will just go to another non sprayed apt.
A house?? You have to tent. Unless you use a preventative plan before they ever come to your house.
The only thing that can be done with an infestation is to tent.

 

[hoppyfrog]

I agree with the psych eval the judge suggested for the mom.

Why should the mom but not the dad have a psych eval? Is the filthy house only the mom's fault and not the dad's?

 

[julianne]

Why should the mom but not the dad have a psych eval? Is the filthy house only the mom's fault and not the dad's?

Good point, hoppyfrog! Everything is referring to the mom only----Dad lived there too. The mom and dad are equally responsible for the condition of the house.

ETA: Regardless, if it IS true that their house was this bad,(we only know what has come out via the media & they sure do like to spin) it is no way points to their guilt, IMO. Not even remotely---they are two completely different issues. I can't imagine the pain this family is going through right now with dealing with their little girls death, let alone the embarassment of media reports of their filthy house. I would hope some neighbors/friends/family are stepping up to the plate in helping them get the house in order so they can get their kids back soon. I know I would---as monumental of a task it may have seemed to them before, it can only be compounded in dealing with the grief and sorrow of their little girls death. Hopefully someone will extend a caring hand & show of humanity towards them...

 

[txsvicki]

Due to only having 2 hours sleep, I think I am the one who made the mistake about the shoes but I didn't mistake the quote from the dad say that "someone killed my daughter because they were afraid to come after me". He said that is why they killed Coral Rose. I really do think that the fact when people have a filthy home and have been reported 6 times in another location could be related when a child turns up dead from homicidal violence needs to be looked at by authorities. This isn't a recent very temporary problem for the parents, but no reason to lose their kids. Their family should come help them as much as possible and give them a break. If people can't afford tenting, then spray and baits will work to at least run roaches off and kill lots of them. If a person keeps the home clean, then the bugs should move on to other places but sure would be a nightmare to deal with having lots of kids with problems and having to work long hours.

http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060925/NEWS/609250641

 

[RiverRat]

http://www.sun-herald.com/NewsArchive2/092606/tp4np5.htm?date=092606&story=tp4np5.htm

FORT MYERS -- Six-year-old Coralrose Fullwood was a vibrant, precious child whose smile lit up a room and brought joy to everyone who knew her, Rabbi Yitzchok Minkowicz said at the girl's memorial service Monday.

Calling Coralrose a "true Jewish soldier," Minkowicz said, "She was a real happy girl. She always had a smile on her face. Nothing was ever a problem."

Close to 200 people attended Coralrose's memorial service Monday morning at the Harvey-Englehardt-Metz Funeral Home in Fort Myers. Coralrose was found murdered Sept. 17 behind a home under construction, two blocks from where she lived in North Port. No arrest has been made in the case.



"The coldest intellect, and a most unemotional person without feelings has to be moved when a 6-year-old was taken from a family," he said. "But this was not an accident that can be rationalized."

"I don't think anybody can rationalize it. I don't think anyone can feel good or comfortable with it. I think it's a terrible thing to happen," Minkowicz said.

The North Port Police Department sent four officers, including Chief Terry Lewis, to Monday's memorial service. Detective Tom Stellar, Lt. Detective Ed Fitzpatrick, and Lt. Kevin Sullivan also attended the memorial.

"We felt it was the right thing to do," Lewis said. "We just wanted (Coralrose) to know we are there for her."

Lewis said the case has had an emotional toll on the officers, and it was a "personal thing" for them to come.

"(Lt.) Kevin Sullivan felt strongly about coming. He was the supervisor during the search for Coralrose," Lewis said.

In an earlier interview, and grieving over his granddaughter's death, Saul VanderWoulde thanked the community last week for support.

"It's hard enough to lose a granddaughter but I have to thank the community for helping out financially," he said. "The temple is handling a fund for my granddaughter."

Coralrose will be buried at Fort Myers City Cemetery in about three weeks, according to the Harvey-Englehardt-Metz Funeral Home Director Doreena Medina.

"The ground is too soft from all the rain," Medina said.

 

[GlitchWizard]

I live in a 25 year old mobile home under a bunch of trees. I can't tent or use bug sprays because I rescue animals and can't have any sort of chemicals in the house. So... we are as clean as possible and squash anything that comes in the house, also I have boric acid tablets where none of my lovely critters can reach them.


HOWEVER, a roach "fell" from my ceiling today while I was in the shower and I screeched - but moments later, I thought "Man, some of those folks on websleuths are going to figure me for a daughter killer." :-D

 

[s_finch]

Why should the mom but not the dad have a psych eval? Is the filthy house only the mom's fault and not the dad's?

Of course I would hold the dad also accountable for the living conditions, I was merely agreeing with what the judge had ordered.