FL - Coralrose Fullwood, 6, found murdered, North Port, 17 Sept 2006

[RiverRat]

Do you know who was suspected of being the abuser? I took the whole thing wrong then, because I thought that Ellen had the kids checked for abuse by her pediatrician, just to be sure, after the death of Coral Rose. I hope there is some news soon.

The other children were examined while in custody of Child Protection after Rosie's murder. Twinkiesmom is correct regarding the speculation at HT....

The MysteryPoster turned out to be no one related by family. Just one of the HT posters trying to shake Ellen up into revealing more info. But - that was last night, so God only knows how it turned out over the past 8 hours.

Anyhowssssss - the more I read there, there more livid I become that Dale was not arrested on the spot that first day when he confessed to a felony charge - possession of child pornography. Vile, disgusting father-daughter rape porn.....little girl porn on computer, little girl dead outside.....daddy free to finally clean the house and give interviews. :banghead:

 

[twinkiesmom]

My recollection is that a family member posting had confirmed the long-ago abuse by saying it wasn't relevant to the current situation.

But yes, it was just revealed that the drive-by postings were the work of an ordinary poster under multiple hats.

 

[mooselover]

I am hesitant to comment on the forum as a whole, but I will say that it has been quite an interesting observation to watch how they have progressed.

Dale.....can't really rule him out as the new mystery poster......Ellen's eldest daughter is more where my gut is leaning to though.

I am curious though if now with the tide turning, if the posters there that were offended by my Patsy picture here months ago are now starting to see the Big Picture......

RR,
Saw that Corarose was being discussed and then saw the link to the HT and, oh my... stayed there last night and watched it unfold and then again today (I have gotten some house work done, actually a lot done in between.) LOL. Anyhow it is still going on and I do feel for those who truly are there for CR... Unreal... There were some pretty awful people doing that. OR 1??????. I hope they can recover and move forward. Makes you thankful for WS and I am looking forword to the news conference next week... Hopefully something important.. and helpful.

 

[RiverRat]

I soooo agree......One Hat Wonders (like FFJ & WBS) are the ONLY way to go, but most of us have been around for a while and know all to well how some get their jollies playing games with the unsuspecting.

That being said.......after witnessing what went down there.....no one can have any doubts now as to how Ellen feels about her husband. :liar: :loser:

 

[RiverRat]

From the HT forum:

"Thanks for everyone's participation in this forum. But the time has come, as we've exceeded hundreds of pages of conversation, to close the thread. It wandered far past its original purpose of discussing an article. Please feel free to open new threads on more focused topics, either in response to articles or in the Community Room.

Also, several people have been removed from the forum related to inappropriate behavior or at their own request.

And lastly, it's impossible to find an IP address of another user on this forum by using the HeraldTribune.com forums as a means. Any claim otherwise is false.

Thanks,
-Lucas Grindley
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:boohoo:

I did read - but have not confirmed yet - that there will be a press conference with LEO in the morning.

 

[RiverRat]

http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070530/BREAKING/70530027

SARASOTA – A judge today agreed that the mother of a slain North Port girl should again have custody of her four children.

Ellen-Beth Fullwood’s youngest children, ages 4 to 13, have been living with their maternal grandparents in Lee County since Coralrose’s Sept. 17 death.

The Department of Children and Families asked a judge to remove the children after finding roaches in Calabash Lane home, fecal matter in a bathtub and laundry strewn about.

Police have said neither parent has been cleared in the girl’s death, though DNA proves she was raped by a nonfamily member.

Fullwood's estranged husband Dale currently is allowed supervised visits. He is scheduled to go to trial next month on two felony counts of possession of child pornography.

http://www.nbc-2.com/articles/readarticle.asp?articleid=12811&z=3&p=

video link

 

[RiverRat]

Ellen-Beth Fullwood left the courthouse without commenting, but she called a Herald-Tribune reporter later to give a statement. She said while the battle with the state is not over, she is glad her children will be coming home.

"They'll be home where they belong, and I can put what's left of my family back together," she said.

However, her 22-year-old son from a previous relationship said he was upset to hear that his siblings are moving back home with her.

"I do feel the kids were, and are, best off with my grandparents," said Seaton VanderWoude, who lives in Washington, D.C. "I think it's just a better environment there. I think they're better cared for."

http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070531/NEWS/705310578

 

[SailorMoon]

This case is sad and they need to find poor CoralRose's killer. That little angel did not deserve to be killed and dumped. And LE has no clue to this day???? Sad, I tell you, sad.

 

[RiverRat]

http://www.sun-herald.com/breakingnews.cfm?id=2250

CrimeStoppers has offered a reward to help the North Port Police Department arrest someone for the homicide of 6-year-old Coralrose Fullwood, the police department announced at a press conference today.

Coralrose’s mother, Ellen-Beth, was at the press conference this morning, and seemed relieved that she was scheduled to get her four other children back to live with her again, she said. Ellen-Beth now lives in Fort Myers to be near her children. She had lived in North Port until a judge ruled in circuit court that her children had to live with her parents.

One reason, Southwest Florida CrimeStoppers is working so diligently with the North Port Police Department is because a call ABC news got locally. The caller said he had information about the case but didn’t stay long enough to relay that information.

 

[SewingDeb]

http://www.nbc-2.com/articles/readarticle.asp?articleid=12829&z=3&p=

There have been 340 leads in the case and 24 of those remain open.

Police also wanted to communicate a message to the person who called the ABC affiliate in Sarasota. The person called with specific information in the case and even offered a name, but did not give enough information. Police would like that person to contact them or the ABC affiliate again.

 

[WFT]

I too watched as the whole thread unraveled at the HT. It was like sitting in a life boat and watching the titanic sink. Nothing you can do, but too gory to pull your eyes away from. To see the works from an obvious sociopath on destruct mode was eery.

I was also a little bugeyed when I seen what the mod had wrote about not being able to access IP address off their site. It can be done. He may not understand the technology, but yes, it can be done. There was a poster who was trying to explain it and she or he was close in the description, but left out a few key tasks that may have clued the mods in.

Well, as to the reward fund, when I just checked after catching up on yesterdays conferences, no extra money has been donated yet. It's only been 24 hours, but I would have thought that the first 24 would have been the time to see an input of money from the public. I was taken aback that not one dollar has been added.

I think this case may never be solved. A child killer and rapist is on the loose and free to do it again to some other innocent baby.

 

[WFT]

I find it a little on the sad side, that the forums about this little girl have died away. Little Coralrose will be forgotten as the days tick by and no one discusses her case. Another thread about the reward fund was started on the Herald Tribune site, but most of the posts were deleted, and the talk is sporatic at best. All those people that genuinely seemed to care about the case and posted regularly are pretty much gone now. I sometimes wonder if this is making Ellen Beth happy, now that her daughters death will be out of sight out of mind.

 

[missacorah]

I have tried to understand whats happened here with Ellen Beth but am still at a lost. Could someone explain to me briefly whats turned people against her? Sorry to be so dumb!

 

[mom3dd]

Good question missacorah. I don't understand it. Also I know the Father had 2 pics of porn supposedly he down loaded (could have been sons and he is covering for him) and treated like the killer while if I understand it there is conclusive evidence it was not him. That there is a killer on the loose. But media and public focused on the Father. Understand me clearly I hate porn but know that is rampant out there and 2 pic are minute to the porn collectors out there. I pray that all the attention from media and public did not alter the due dilagence of the LE.

 

[txsvicki]

I remember reading that LE think that the rapist had an accomplice and they believe the accomplice was someone who knew Coral Rose. Also, I thought that there were hundreds of pics on Dale's computer along with actual video showing a child being raped and that it had all been saved.

Were all posts deleted at the Tribune? I know that some websleuthers read over there to find out more about what's going on, but I can't help but think it's about time.

 

[Bobbisangel]

I remember reading that LE think that the rapist had an accomplice and they believe the accomplice was someone who knew Coral Rose. Also, I thought that there were hundreds of pics on Dale's computer along with actual video showing a child being raped and that it had all been saved.

Were all posts deleted at the Tribune? I know that some websleuthers read over there to find out more about what's going on, but I can't help but think it's about time.

I thought the same thing. I didn't think he only had a couple pic's on the puter and they were pics of children and adults or children and children.

I think CoralRose's killer is someone who knew her. I still believe that because he took her comforter and wrapped her in it. If it had been a stranger I don't think he would have bothered wrapping her up. I think she would just have been left like most little girls are found.

 

[twinkiesmom]

Do not minimize the porn...all accounts were it was horrific. There is no moral difference between a consumer of child porn and a maker of child porn.

You should assume anyone being gratified by this kind of material is capable of acting out these fantasies. We're not talking about pin-up models or Playboys here...These are little children. Anyone who is a decent parent realizes that other children are somebody's child and need to be protected even if they aren't your own.

Do not put stock in info the police has released. At first they said she wasn't abused, then she was. Now they're saying DNA of unknown perp...may not be true, may not be the whole story.

As far as I know, no one has been cleared in this case, so don't waste your time doing it here with no real information.

And I did read most of the close to 1000 pages on the HT.

 

[RiverRat]

The pornography was of a child rape. :furious:

 

[JBean]

I thnk we have some thread confusion. title doesn't match the thread.
I will send a note to mods.

okay it is just the title of the first post?

 

[txsvicki]

Was the thread moved again?