GUILTY FL - David Galarriago, 2, beaten to death, Jacksonville, 14 March 2011

[Linda7NJ]

When an 11 yr old 'sexually abuses' a 5 yr old sibling, it is because they are acting out because of their OWN ongoing abuse.

This poor child was sent home to live with his TWELVE YR OLD mother, a victim of rape and incest herself. They lived in a crack motel room with his crack ho grandmother. He was physically beaten and sexually abused his ENTIRE LIFE.

Is it any surprise he acted out in class and lashed out at siblings?

I believe in holding perps accountable for their actions, even if they were victims themselves. But not at age TWELVE. How the heck was a 12 yr old supposed to get help for himself?

I acted out sexually at age 11 as well. I was raped for years by my uncle since I was 5. I was sexually 'permissive' at age 11 and 12 because of that.

Should I have been locked up and left there for life because of those actions? I hope not. I got help when I was GROWN UP.

This poor child was thrown to the wolves by the same system that is throwing him in the trash and throwing away the key. :furious:

I'm sorry to disAgree but I believe if an older child preys upon by using violence or threatens a younger, smaller, weaker child ....that child needs to be held accountable. Period. No excuses.


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[katydid23]

I'm sorry to disAgree but I believe if an older child preys upon by using violence or threatens a younger, smaller, weaker child ....that child needs to be held accountable. Period. No excuses.


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We will agree to disagree then. Sometimes a young child, who has ALWAYS been under the care of their abusers, has no chance to heal or learn to behave.

This CHILD was raised in a crack motel and raped by his stepfather, who killed himself in front of the children when he was caught. When and how was this poor child supposed to learn anything about accountability.

I initiated sexual contact with other kids my age at age 11 because it was all I knew when I wanted to reach out. It would not have been fair to hold me 'accountable' because I did not know any better.

 

[katydid23]

It really shocks me that sexual abuse is so pervasive within families. I'm so sorry for your childhood abuse and glad that you were able to overcome this trauma. But in acting out, you weren't violent and you didn't break bones or kill people.

I agree that social services let this boy and his family down big time, right from the start. IMO, they should be held accountable. But we all know that never happens in these cases. It's a sad situation all the way around.

IF this child can be helped- REALLY helped- so that he isn't a danger in the future, of course that would be wonderful. But judging by similar situations in the past, it's just not very likely. He might be 'broken' beyond repair and there's only so much society can do for him at this time.

Even if he's given therapy, there comes a point where there will be nothing more anyone can do for him. At that time, he's either changed his life around or he hasn't. If he hasn't, he'd be a danger to the rest of us if he's simply let out when he comes of age.

I wasn't violent because I was not beaten daily, like poor Christian was.

We don't even know if he can be helped because NOBODY ever tried. He was living in his abusers care when he lashed out at his half siblings. His so called 'mother' left him alone in charge of a toddler. Should he do LIFE in prison because of that stupid decision on her part?

Society has NEVER lifted a finger to try and help this poor CHILD. How do we know he is beyond repair? He was only 12 when this happened. He was a straight A student, so he was responding in positive ways to authority.

If he was 16 or 17, then I would agree. It would likely be too late. But it is so unfair to throw away such a young child. He is still a baby. He is not old enough for the kind of soul searching needed to heal from this kind of abuse. He was still being abused as he was since birth, when he lashed out at the toddler. That baby should not have died. Christian did not beat or brutalize the child in a way that should have killed him. He pushed him really hard and the baby hit his head and died because 'mom' waited 8 hrs for medical care. SHE is the one that should be doing LIFE in prison, imo.

I think he should be placed in a mental facility for criminals,and receive treatment, until he is 18, and then go from there.

 

[Peazzzer]

The poor 2 year old obviously never had a chance. His own brother saw to that.

 

[katydid23]

The poor 2 year old obviously never had a chance. His own brother saw to that.

Of course it is tragic for the poor two yr old. But imo, the 12 yr old should have never been left alone to babysit a toddler.

 

[Peazzzer]

All I can say is that in the state of Wyoming, parents are not held legally responsible for the actions of a 10 year old child once that child is out of the parents sight. Does not make it ok with me, at all. However, this implies that a 10 year old child knows right from wrong. The 2 year old received a broken leg from this brother, obviously, either this 12 year old was a very believable liar, or just plain evil........and evil does exist.

 

[Linda7NJ]

We will agree to disagree then. Sometimes a young child, who has ALWAYS been under the care of their abusers, has no chance to heal or learn to behave.

This CHILD was raised in a crack motel and raped by his stepfather, who killed himself in front of the children when he was caught. When and how was this poor child supposed to learn anything about accountability.

I initiated sexual contact with other kids my age at age 11 because it was all I knew when I wanted to reach out. It would not have been fair to hold me 'accountable' because I did not know any better.

I am very sorry about what you've endured. Truly.
I don't view what you did criminal behavior. I am talking about those who prey upon the weak, smaller, younger etc..

 

[katydid23]

I am very sorry about what you've endured. Truly.
I don't view what you did criminal behavior. I am talking about those who prey upon the weak, smaller, younger etc..

I understand. And I agree with you. I would hold a 15 or 16 yr old kid responsible because they are mature enough and adult enough to make the connection about how wrong it is. Try them as adults as far as I am concerned.

But this 12 yr old was literally raised by a 12 yr old. They sent him home to a crack motel with his 12 yr old rape victim mother. So it is no wonder that he has no clue how to control his anger. JMO

 

[katydid23]

All I can say is that in the state of Wyoming, parents are not held legally responsible for the actions of a 10 year old child once that child is out of the parents sight. Does not make it ok with me, at all. However, this implies that a 10 year old child knows right from wrong. The 2 year old received a broken leg from this brother, obviously, either this 12 year old was a very believable liar, or just plain evil........and evil does exist.

Evil does exist. We herd hereabout the two 13 yr olds who killed Grandma for pizza money. Lock them up forever as far as I am concerned. That is pure evil.

But from what I have read about Christian, he is not evil. He was severely abused for his entire life and has no impulse control. But he has lots of redeeming qualities and has NEVER been given any treatment or even been cared for with any love.

If you make a quick list of his crimes they look horrific. But when you read the circumstances, it is slightly different. I just think he should be given some treatment in a locked psychiatric facility before automatically throwing him in a mens prison and throwing away the key.

We CREATED this child's trauma, imo.

 

[3kgirlsmommy]

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-10-25/story/judge-remains-mum-over-whether-dismiss-murder-case-againt-jacksonville

I noticed this in the paper today, hope I'm posting the link right. I'm still so torn on this case.

 

[Peazzzer]

I am not so much torn over this case as I am outraged that this child has been held in jail for this long! What is the purpose of that? The mother waited 8 hours to get help for the baby, the baby died.

Wasn't there just a judge that gave a 19 year old 90 days jail for slamming his own child down so hard it killed her? 77 days, with time served....unbelievable!!

 

[trofanji]

Cristian Fernandez pleads guilty as juvenile

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/...dez-pleads-guilty-juvenile-death-half-brother

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Im glad. I believe in Evil but I don't think this kid is evil. What chance did he have? Or his mother? A baby at 12? She was obviously molested and abused also.

Im glad that this kid has a chance. I hope that someone cares enough about him to step in and show him love and stability.

A massive tragedy here.

 

[Linda7NJ]

This kid scares me, I'm glad a condition is if he violates his probation he will be sentenced as an adult.

IMO he's a murderer and sexual predator. He's not stupid, by all accounts he's very bright . He knew what he was doing was wrong and didn't care.


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[josie1986]

The way ive always seen this and any other murderer no matter what age:

You take someone's life , you have yours taken away whether it be by being sentenced to death or lwop.

If they are tried as a juvenile you to juvenile detention and when you turn 18 off to big boy jail l

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[Jax49]

Here's the plea agreement. I hope he's not beyond help.


http://www.scribd.com/doc/124554161/Cristian-Fernandez-plea-agreement

 

[trofanji]

As for a few more kids who have to deal with such cases, he is in good Hands! He himself was heavily abused, sexually and physically, he finally does what he has learned his entirely life from his parents, -abuse as a solution for problems. By the way, his mom waits 8 hours before she got help for David, there was a good chance that David would have survived when he got medical aid as soon as possible.
Unfortunately the state attorney doesn’t care about the abuse Christian had endured, nobody get sued for the abuse they do on Christian. But as I said before he is in good hands now. He isn’t evil, nor is he and sexual predator; he was a very disturbed abused kid.

IMO

 

[Linda7NJ]

As for a few more kids who have to deal with such cases, he is in good Hands! He himself was heavily abused, sexually and physically, he finally does what he has learned his entirely life from his parents, -abuse as a solution for problems. By the way, his mom waits 8 hours before she got help for David, there was a good chance that David would have survived when he got medical aid as soon as possible.
Unfortunately the state attorney doesn’t care about the abuse Christian had endured, nobody get sued for the abuse they do on Christian. But as I said before he is in good hands now. He isn’t evil, nor is he and sexual predator; he was a very disturbed abused kid.

IMO

We are going to have to agree to disagree.


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