Found Deceased FL - Diana Alvares, 9, Fort Myers, 29 May 2016 *Arrest* #4

[mpnola]

Thanks for that! So do you think the area where LE first searched near YHJ is where he crashed his car, or he crashed his car at YHJ?

I'm thinking the former, and have added that to the Case Map

Can we add where his house is located and maybe where that one video shows his car was located? (the video shows it was in Orange County, I think. Only thing is I am not sure if it was the tan one that was in the AA, but seems was not driven by him or the black one that he actually drove).

I just feel like there is a reason he went through Okeechobee- the same place that he and some of his people live. And I do think he was claiming that the reason his phone was stopped for a while was because that was where he went into the ditch. The question is- did he take that chance to get rid of Diana or had it already happened when he was in Oke? This dude makes me think about things my brain doesn't want to think about.

 

[mpnola]

Can we add where his house is located and maybe where that one video shows his car was located? (the video shows it was in Orange County, I think. Only thing is I am not sure if it was the tan one that was in the AA, but seems was not driven by him or the black one that he actually drove).

I just feel like there is a reason he went through Okeechobee- the same place that he and some of his people live. And I do think he was claiming that the reason his phone was stopped for a while was because that was where he went into the ditch. The question is- did he take that chance to get rid of Diana or had it already happened when he was in Oke? This dude makes me think about things my brain doesn't want to think about.

EDIT---- I could never wrap my head why he went from oke to yhj back to oke before going to orlando, but if his brother had to tow him back, that makes sense. That is where he stays and would get his car back there, get another vehicle, and move on.

 

[mpnola]

Greetings, I am a Newbie to the SAR of beautiful Diana. Haven't read all of the posts, my apologies.

Judging on JGs locations from the map, JG starts in Orlando, where his cell phone is conveniently located, and drove almost straight to Diana's home. News reports state that she was "captured" from her home. I am not sure if he entered via an unlocked door or an unlocked window in her bedroom. Driving from Orlando to Fort Myers to kidnap a precious 9yo little girl is a long distance of almost 155 miles or a 3 hour travel time.

Is it possible that her father knew 28yo JG? Maybe had shown pics of his children to him at some point?

mpnola, I concur that JG did not keep her in the Malibu for a long period. Where he takes the sharp right headed to OKE may be where harm came to her. Then, he drove into OKE (point E on the map) and left her in or near that lake or swamp seen on the map at that point. I'd like to see an aerial view of that area.

How difficult would it be to get to that area of water by foot? Is it marshy? He was in a car so he probably did not have crab cages.

One thing is for sure. LEO seems to be doing everything right in their diligent search for her. Sheriff Mike Scott will leave no stone unturned until he finds this sweet girl. SMS holds my greatest admiration. Also, my sincere thanks go out to Skibaboo for the updated map. You're the greatest!

I adore this sweet picture of Diana. I truly hope and pray that she can be found alive and back with her family asap. I detest pedophiles.

Source: http://images.holaciudad.com/2016/0...esaparicion-varios_924217817_11570060_667x520

Her father is friends with Jorge. In the beginning, Diana's mom and step-dad said that they thought Jorge didn't talk to Martin anymore, so they let him move in. (I am not sure I can find that interview/ article, but it was in the first week of her missing). Through his social media, it is very obvious that isn't true. There are still very strong ties to from him and his family to Diana's dad and stepmom. Very. <modsnip> I think he has had strong ties to Diana and her family since she was very young. For those reasons, I am leaving my brain open whether it is the lone pedophile, the pedophile working with others for cover up, the pedophile trafficking with others, the pedophile kidnapper. Some seem more possible than others, for me, but I am leaving them all open until we see more info. I'm so sad for this baby who should be enjoying her summer with her siblings.

 

[krig101]

EDIT---- I could never wrap my head why he went from oke to yhj back to oke before going to orlando, but if his brother had to tow him back, that makes sense. That is where he stays and would get his car back there, get another vehicle, and move on.

Bumping off of your post

But then in Orlando he stayed with a stranger so why did he go there? Were his things at another residence in Orlando and he did a quick pack up and go. When the stranger took him in did he have any bags or suitcases with him? And then wasn't he finally arrested in Okeechobee, so he went back there a third time. That is a lot of shuffling around......That is one nervous Nellie to me!

 

[skibaboo]

Can we add where his house is located and maybe where that one video shows his car was located? (the video shows it was in Orange County, I think. Only thing is I am not sure if it was the tan one that was in the AA, but seems was not driven by him or the black one that he actually drove).

I just feel like there is a reason he went through Okeechobee- the same place that he and some of his people live. And I do think he was claiming that the reason his phone was stopped for a while was because that was where he went into the ditch. The question is- did he take that chance to get rid of Diana or had it already happened when he was in Oke? This dude makes me think about things my brain doesn't want to think about.

If you can help me out and point me to the relevant links I sure can

 

[mpnola]

Hey, mappy people---- this article here:
http://www.fox4now.com/news/4-in-your-corner/man-suspected-of-abduction-has-ties-to-miami-and-mexico

lists his address as this:
2828 NW 46 Avenue in Okeechobee

Does anyone know how close or far that is to where the phone was found? That video is worth watching again. It also shows the area his car was found. And that he had 2 Mexican IDs on him when he was arrested in the past.

(A big thank you to the super sleuther who helped me find that. Oh, the tangled webs we weave!!!)

EDIT- oh, and is it possible to maybe add those things to the map? Thanks!

Bumping for map purposes! Here you go, skib.

 

[mpnola]

Bumping off of your post

But then in Orlando he stayed with a stranger so why did he go there? Were his things at another residence in Orlando and he did a quick pack up and go. When the stranger took him in did he have any bags or suitcases with him? And then wasn't he finally arrested in Okeechobee, so he went back there a third time. That is a lot of shuffling around......That is one nervous Nellie to me!

Yes. Orlando is the main place that I do not understand the ties, yet. I guess I need to start looking at why he was there so often.

 

[staywoke]

Yes. Orlando is the main place that I do not understand the ties, yet. I guess I need to start looking at why he was there so often.

i was rereading an article I posted last night looking for a back up article for JGT & his brother living in Orlando.

instead, I found this;
"He told investigators he was traveling between Okeechobee and Orlando and that his vehicle, a black Chevy Malibu, broke down during the trip and had to be towed."

http://www.news-press.com/story/new...suspect-jorge-guerrero-now-lee-jail/85480128/

 

[staywoke]

as per the criminal complaint; JGT currently resided with two roommates at a specified address in Orlando".


a& f on the map are "his residence in Orlando"

 

[Jo in Calif]

i was rereading an article I posted last night looking for a back up article for JGT & his brother living in Orlando.

instead, I found this;
"He told investigators he was traveling between Okeechobee and Orlando and that his vehicle, a black Chevy Malibu, broke down during the trip and had to be towed."

http://www.news-press.com/story/new...suspect-jorge-guerrero-now-lee-jail/85480128/

Black Malibu found 2 days later and was impounded.

LEE COUNTY - Investigators suspect 28 year old Jorge Guerrero-Torres abducted 9 year old Diana Alvarez on Sunday, May 29th. Four in your Corner finding the two apparently headed North. The Orange County Sheriff's Office confirming Guerrero's vehicle was found two days later, which was this past Tuesday, May 31st.

The car was impounded and Guerrero now remains on the run. By Thursday, June 2nd, four days after the abduction; an Amber Alert was issued to help save little Diana. Although local law enforcement is not releasing details about Guerrero, Four in your Corner has uncovered new information about the suspect, including his full name and last known address in Okechobee.

http://www.fox4now.com/news/4-in-your-corner/man-suspected-of-abduction-has-ties-to-miami-and-mexico

Told LE he returned to Orlando in the GMC Safari. He confirmed his vehicle to be a black Chevrolet Malibu bearing Florida identification #MAW068. He could not drive the vehicle home so he left it behind and returned to his residence in Orlando, Florida in a GMC Safari, bearing Florida identification #MAX696.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/file/865556/download

Not sure when he started driving the tan Malibu, unless he lied to LE about what he drove back to Orlando and then back to Okeechobee where he was apprehended.

Sorry about the funky paste, that's how it came out.

 

[mpnola]

as per the criminal complaint; JGT currently resided with two roommates at a specified address in Orlando".


a& f on the map are "his residence in Orlando"

Did we ever determine that the address he gave in Orlando was actually the address of the 2 men he supposedly just met? I thought we did, but this case has crazy details.

 

[mpnola]

You know, even if the Oke address is old, there is still a strong awareness space and strong ties there. I still think there is a reason he took a different route back to Orl. Otherwise, why not go back out the same way he came in?

EDIT- it is also where he was when he was arrested. He for sure had people there willing to help him out. From the complaint (linked on page 1)

9. On or about June 3, 2016, after an extensive search spanning several
different jurisdictions, GUERRERO-TORRES was located in Okeechobee, Florida.
GUERRERO-TORRES was taken into custody as a result of his lack of lawful
immigration status in the United States.

 

[staywoke]

Did we ever determine that the address he gave in Orlando was actually the address of the 2 men he supposedly just met? I thought we did, but this case has crazy details.

I don't think it can be those guys place.
the cell phone's originating ping & the ending ping in orlando are "his residence" that he left on the night of may 28th.

these guys found him on a Tuesday (the 31st?)
"Aguilar says he spotted Guerrero at a restaurant in Orlando on Tuesday alone, begging for a place to stay."
http://www.winknews.com/2016/06/04/just-in-police-arrest-man-accused-of-abducting-diana-alvares/

 

[staywoke]

Your thought process and posts are always strong. I appreciate the dialogue and brain work that is happening today. Don't get discouraged.

:loveyou::tyou:
means a lot xo

 

[skibaboo]

Bumping for map purposes! Here you go, skib.

I've added that address, and the approx location of the vehicle. The video is very vague, just showing the outline of Orange County, but MOO I bet it isn't too far from the spot the phone was found, so that is the approx area I put the marker.

 

[Greater Than]

Hi everyone.

Several posts have been removed.

Mom, Dad, Stepmom, and Stepdad are OFF LIMITS to sleuthing.

Anyone not named by LE as a POI or suspect is OFF LIMITS to sleuthing.

The only person in this case who is currently open to sleuthing is Jorge Guerrero-Torres, as he is the only named suspect.

You may, however, discuss statements that anyone has made to the media. But that does not include comments on Facebook or any other form of SM. Comments or posts made by readers/visitors are not allowed to be quoted, copied, or referenced. Please do not mention them.

Thanks

 

[mpnola]

I've added that address, and the approx location of the vehicle. The video is very vague, just showing the outline of Orange County, but MOO I bet it isn't too far from the spot the phone was found, so that is the approx area I put the marker.

Thank you so much. Looking at a map helps me so much. My brain can't hold all the details while envisioning what areas he was in. The car was close to where the phone was found or where they searched? Or are all 3 the same area.

 

[cvaldez1975]

I think he begged for a place to stay because he was hiding. He didn't know the ppl so no one could tie him to them and cops wouldn't look there.

Bumping off of your post

But then in Orlando he stayed with a stranger so why did he go there? Were his things at another residence in Orlando and he did a quick pack up and go. When the stranger took him in did he have any bags or suitcases with him? And then wasn't he finally arrested in Okeechobee, so he went back there a third time. That is a lot of shuffling around......That is one nervous Nellie to me!

 

[hey-Debbie]

Hi everyone.

Several posts have been removed.

Mom, Dad, Stepmom, and Stepdad are OFF LIMITS to sleuthing.

Anyone not named by LE as a POI or suspect is OFF LIMITS to sleuthing.

The only person in this case who is currently open to sleuthing is Jorge Guerrero-Torres, as he is the only named suspect.

You may, however, discuss statements that anyone has made to the media. But that does not include comments on Facebook or any other form of SM. Comments or posts made by readers/visitors are not allowed to be quoted, copied, or referenced. Please do not mention them.

Thanks

Thank you. So just to clarify, we can list official news FB sites but just not anything about comments, right?

 

[DeDee]

On top of all the other questions, I'm wondering if attempted murder will become a charge. Afterall, someone put a pot of oil on the stove and turned all the burners on high. How that did not catch on fire is a mystery and a miracle. But it was done on purpose with a very specific end result in mind.

6:28 PM, May 31, 2016
Diana Alvarez search continues; Family suspects they know kidnapper

Diana’s mother woke up again a little before 7 am, .... a strange smell coming from their kitchen .... someone left the stove top on and a pan filled with oil sitting there.

45 sex offenders and registered predators live within a 5 mile radius .... seven offenders listed within a mile radius, and one sex offender lives on her street. :tantrum:

Diana’s mother tells .... her daughter started acting strange a few weeks leading up to her 9th birthday earlier this month.... Diana started focusing on her appearance much more and out of no where started wanting to wear makeup.

http://www.fox4now.com/news/diana-alvares-search-continues-family-suspects-they-know-kidnapper

Grooming much? Not sure I'll continue to post in Allison's case. Just too painful to consider. Creeps that harm children are the worst of the worst.

MHOO