FL - Dr Teresa Sievers, 46, murdered in home, Bonita Springs, June 2015 #1

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  • #281
someone on 🤬🤬🤬 mentioned that until the 'goal' is met or exceeded, they won't get to touch any money. is that true?
No, they get every dime regardless of whether the goal was reached or not. Can't link, but it's on the Q&A on the site.

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  • #282
[video=youtube;gGBpXfIMyko]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGBpXfIMyko[/video]

Tan suv reported parked in her driveway that morning. Perhaps it was the person that went to her home to do a wellness check and found her dead that the neighbors saw?
 
  • #283
No, they get every dime regardless of whether the goal was reached or not. Can't link, but it's on the Q&A on the site.

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Because the goal is so incredibly high I think LE is pouring through the practice's books to see if there is a financial motive. Her husband was her office manager and yet he didn't return with her from a visit to her family. I find that odd. She spent a lot of time trying to promote herself through media articles and speaking engagements and while she is doing that, she isn't seeing patients.

JMO
 
  • #284
[video=youtube;gGBpXfIMyko]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGBpXfIMyko[/video]

Tan suv reported parked in her driveway that morning. Perhaps it was the person that went to her home to do a wellness check and found her dead that the neighbors saw?

Could be. It seems premeditated and she was the target.
 
  • #285
I think the million dollar request is what opens the door for alot of questions in that direction. Still think there are other possibilities too. Sound like LE is doing a good job investigating this case and looking at this from several angles. jmo
 
  • #286
She may have had one but until they make an arrest, I doubt benefits will be paid. She had to be in a lot of debt for her extensive education. Most young doctors don't immediately launch a solo practice because the costs are so high.

Has LE cleared the husband?

JMO
Her practice page says that she went to Ross University School of Medicine, which is a for-profit (owned by the shady DeVry Institute conglomerate) medical school in the Caribbean. It caters to Americans whose grades and test scores aren't high enough to get into a US med school (that's not my personal judgment, that's their own published records of average and cut-off GPAs and MCAT scores), and the school also pays a number of hospital systems to ensure residency slots that their students probably wouldn't be competitive for otherwise (and those payments get passed on to their students via higher tuition). What that adds up to is tuition and student loan debt that is significantly higher than even that held by med students who train in the US.

None of this is meant to be any sort of reflection or judgment on her medical knowledge and skills (Dr. Sievers' patients seem to have spoken quite highly of her both as a person and as a physician), but it is a reflection that she likely had a significantly above average amount of medical school debt.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/health/medicine/investigators-want-to-know-if-the-quality-of-offshore-medical-schools/1061189:

• Students of foreign medical schools like Ross graduate with higher average debt, $235,000 compared to the average $158,000 owed by graduates of U.S. medical schools, according to an August report to Congress by regulators.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-09-10/devry-lures-medical-school-rejects-as-taxpayers-fund-debt

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/03/education/edlife/second-chance-med-school.html
 
  • #287
I don't see anything wrong at all with the husband and kids staying on with the relatives. That's a big trip to take. She had to get back, she is the doctor and had appointments. also, the door was "JIMMIED" thus a burglary gone bad. It wasn't premeditated. Noone kills with a hammer, only a surprised burglar would do that! As far as shouting, the guy was probably on drugs. He must have gone in while she was sleeping and surprised her. Either she talked to someone about this trip & they knew she was gone or the garbage container and recycable bin staying out showed no one was home...........
 
  • #288
Think we are looking a a premeditated murder no matter who the perp turns out to be.

I agree, but I think it's one of two possibilities. IMO of course. If premeditated, in one of the earlier articles it said her routine was to get up at 5 AM. Maybe part of her routine was also to unman the alarm once up for the day, which is why if planned it took place at that time. The only problem I have with that scenario is the hammer if that turns out to be the weapon used. A hammer seems unplanned IMO, which brings me to the other possibility of her having someone there, I won't speculate on the who and why, but suffice it to say maybe someone there and an argument occurred leading to an attack. The door could then have been pried open after the fact to make it look like a random burglary scenario, which a random burglary scenario is the one possibility I just don't see it being
 
  • #289
Her practice page says that she went to Ross University School of Medicine, which is a for-profit (owned by the shady DeVry Institute conglomerate) medical school in the Caribbean. It caters to Americans whose grades and test scores aren't high enough to get into a US med school (that's not my personal judgment, that's their own published records of average and cut-off GPAs and MCAT scores), and the school also pays a number of hospital systems to ensure residency slots that their students probably wouldn't be competitive for otherwise (and those payments get passed on to their students via higher tuition). What that adds up to is tuition and student loan debt that is significantly higher than even that held by med students who train in the US.

None of this is meant to be any sort of reflection or judgment on her medical knowledge and skills (Dr. Sievers' patients seem to have spoken quite highly of her both as a person and as a physician), but it is a reflection that she likely had a significantly above average amount of medical school debt.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/health/medicine/investigators-want-to-know-if-the-quality-of-offshore-medical-schools/1061189:



http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-09-10/devry-lures-medical-school-rejects-as-taxpayers-fund-debt

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/03/education/edlife/second-chance-med-school.html

Even her practice page has a pitch for donations. Her masters program was in 2012. All of it hugely expensive and then she opens a solo practice with treatments not always covered by insurance or Medicare. It's baffling and I wonder if she sought out a financial adviser before doing all of this because it seems to be a sure way to a financial crisis.

JMO
 
  • #290
I don't see anything wrong at all with the husband and kids staying on with the relatives. That's a big trip to take. She had to get back, she is the doctor and had appointments. also, the door was "JIMMIED" thus a burglary gone bad. It wasn't premeditated. Noone kills with a hammer, only a surprised burglar would do that! As far as shouting, the guy was probably on drugs. He must have gone in while she was sleeping and surprised her. Either she talked to someone about this trip & they knew she was gone or the garbage container and recycable bin staying out showed no one was home...........

Considering her husband was also employed by her practice I do find it strange.

JMO
 
  • #291
Still and all..... Money is a motive for murder.
 
  • #292
I agree, but I think it's one of two possibilities. IMO of course. If premeditated, in one of the earlier articles it said her routine was to get up at 5 AM. Maybe part of her routine was also to unman the alarm once up for the day, which is why if planned it took place at that time. The only problem I have with that scenario is the hammer if that turns out to be the weapon used. A hammer seems unplanned IMO, which brings me to the other possibility of her having someone there, I won't speculate on the who and why, but suffice it to say maybe someone there and an argument occurred leading to an attack. The door could then have been pried open after the fact to make it look like a random burglary scenario, which a random burglary scenario is the one possibility I just don't see it being

I don't buy the random burglary scenario, either.
 
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I would think it was weird if the husband went to stay with an in-law if it was just him. But since he had the kids with him, I think that makes it less questionable or unusual. Maybe Dr. Sievers had to be back to see patients, but the kids really wanted to spend more time with their aunt and cousins or whoever, or maybe just enjoy being someplace different from home, and it's summer and they don't have to be back for school, and they don't get a lot of chances to see that side of the family otherwise, so why not let the kids (and dad to watch over them) stay longer? I've known moms who take their kids to see dad's side of the family in the summer while dad's at work, and this is the same thing. (Of course, none of those moms then asked the public for a million dollars...)

ETA: And in the time it took me to write that, someone else above made the point much better. I concede the point that the dad also worked for the wife's practice, so that adds an extra layer of unusual...but an office manager isn't indispensable to a doctor's office the way the doctor actually is. I used to work for an optometrist whose wife was the "office manager," and if she took a week or two off to visit her grandkids, I could manage the patient files and sales reps and contact lens invoices in her absence. And she could do the same with my job responsibilities if I took a week off. (Not that they ever let me have any time off. But still...) But if the optometrist was out for a week, well, neither one of us was going to be able to fill in for him, even for an afternoon.

I also wonder how much he was really the office manager. Was he the head financial and accounting honcho that no one could do without? Or was it an "in name" thing only, to justify having him draw a salary from the practice to add to the house finances? (I can think of plenty of times where someone's kid or girlfriend or spouse was on the payroll, but didn't really do a whole lot.)
 
  • #295
I would think it was weird if the husband went to stay with an in-law if it was just him. But since he had the kids with him, I think that makes it less questionable or unusual. Maybe Dr. Sievers had to be back to see patients, but the kids really wanted to spend more time with their aunt and cousins or whoever, or maybe just enjoy being someplace different from home, and it's summer and they don't have to be back for school, and they don't get a lot of chances to see that side of the family otherwise, so why not let the kids (and dad to watch over them) stay longer? I've known moms who take their kids to see dad's side of the family in the summer while dad's at work, and this is the same thing. (Of course, none of those moms then asked the public for a million dollars...)

I meant I find it odd because it provided the perfect opportunity for her killer. It had to be known by those who worked there and possibly by any neighbors that she was coming back but husband/kids weren't. She'd be alone in the house. I think she was killed by someone tied to her practice.

JMO
 
  • #296
I feel revelations about this matter soon to come will be sensational in nature and will include information about the practice itself.

Just a feeling though. God knows what the truth may turn out to be; it's usually rather mundane.
 
  • #297
I meant I find it odd because it provided the perfect opportunity for her killer. It had to be known by those who worked there and possibly by any neighbors that she was coming back but husband/kids weren't. She'd be alone in the house. I think she was killed by someone tied to her practice.

JMO

Ah, I see what you're saying now. I wonder if it was typical/usual that she might come back earlier from a family vacation? I mean, would it be someone who would be more likely to go to the house thinking that it would be completely empty because the family always came back from vacation together? Or someone who would be more likely to know it would be just her, because she routinely came back ahead of schedule?

Like many of you, my mind jumps to wondering about the husband, just because it seems a bit too convenient that she was in the house alone, while he would have the perfect alibi (*her* family, even. You could see *his* family lying for him...but hers? In a hypothetical case where he was the POI, of course). But I also agree that a hammer (if that is indeed what was used) just seems like a weapon of opportunity. Has there been a case where someone's premeditated weapon of choice was a hammer? I know a murder can count as premeditated in just a few seconds. But I mean a case where someone deliberately packed up their favorite killin' hammer before going on the prowl?
 
  • #298
Considering her husband was also employed by her practice I do find it strange.

JMO

NAW When you are your own boss you can do what you want. She would have had someone filling in for him, no biggie at all. Again, someone she told knew she would be gone OR the garbage can and recycable left out signaled no one was home, thus the door jimmied and surprises her while she's asleep. Hammer would NOT be used in a pre-medidated murder, that's crazy.
 
  • #299
Ah, I see what you're saying now. I wonder if it was typical/usual that she might come back earlier from a family vacation? I mean, would it be someone who would be more likely to go to the house thinking that it would be completely empty because the family always came back from vacation together? Or someone who would be more likely to know it would be just her, because she routinely came back ahead of schedule?

Like many of you, my mind jumps to wondering about the husband, just because it seems a bit too convenient that she was in the house alone, while he would have the perfect alibi (*her* family, even. You could see *his* family lying for him...but hers? In a hypothetical case where he was the POI, of course). But I also agree that a hammer (if that is indeed what was used) just seems like a weapon of opportunity. Has there been a case where someone's premeditated weapon of choice was a hammer? I know a murder can count as premeditated in just a few seconds. But I mean a case where someone deliberately packed up their favorite killin' hammer before going on the prowl?

My questions have more to do with the intuologist or whatever she calls herself who set up the donations. I know the practice is going to fold without Dr. Teresa but I wonder if it was going to fold prior to her murder and the staff knew it.

There was a murder of a young woman in Scottsdale a few months ago and iirc, the murder weapon was believed to be something like a hammer. A hammer is small and can cause a lot of damage and death. I'm not sure why some believe it is all that unusual a murder weapon. Blunt force trauma is often inflicted in murders, imo.
 
  • #300
NAW When you are your own boss you can do what you want. She would have had someone filling in for him, no biggie at all. Again, someone she told knew she would be gone OR the garbage can and recycable left out signaled no one was home, thus the door jimmied and surprises her while she's asleep. Hammer would NOT be used in a pre-medidated murder, that's crazy.

BBM. Just one example and I bet there are many more:

Marissa DeVault's daughters saved her from death row, but couldn't save her from spending the rest of her life in prison for the claw-hammer killing of her husband.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news...sentencing-hammer-killing-case-abrk/10066219/
 
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