FL - Dr Teresa Sievers, 46, murdered in home, Bonita Springs, June 2015 #1

[Simply Caustic]

Catching up on this thread today has been really upsetting. When you post please please remember that this is a victim/family friendly forum. There have been no POI's named, that includes her husband, who at this time is also a victim. I know for a fact family and friends of Teresa are reading here, and these people are truly grieving the loss of their family member, friend, colleague, and/or doctor. I feel like there is too much tunnel vision in this thread and other avenues need to be explored. I also don't think that the amount in the go-fund-me page is relevant right now, the creator could have just put a random number, in hopes to help with this senseless act. If you don't want to donate to it then you don't have too, we don't know the creators thoughts and motivations while setting up the page. Almost everybody here is focused on one person who is innocent until proven guilty. Please please please let's all try to work together to find the truth for all who loved Teresa. Please Let's try to ignore the rumors and focus on the true facts that have been released. I hope you can all see where I'm coming from as I write this, and know I'm not trying to be rude. I'm just very concerned about the content and direction focus has gone.


"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man."

Respectfully, if you bring up another line of discussion I'll be glad to read and comment beside you. The conversation leads where it does because the posters are following the case as it plays out. I think your sentiment of keeping an open mind is an admirable and ideal one, and I'm interested in other lines of inquiry.

I just can't think of anywhere else to go with this, myself, beyond her immediate circle. That's JMO.

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[cluciano63]

Sounds like LE has uncovered some kind of crazy plot...if so, not very well carried out, I guess. Hope arrests come soon. Jmo

 

[LvsAMystry]

Catching up on this thread today has been really upsetting. When you post please please remember that this is a victim/family friendly forum. There have been no POI's named, that includes her husband, who at this time is also a victim. I know for a fact family and friends of Teresa are reading here, and these people are truly grieving the loss of their family member, friend, colleague, and/or doctor. I feel like there is too much tunnel vision in this thread and other avenues need to be explored. I also don't think that the amount in the go-fund-me page is relevant right now, the creator could have just put a random number, in hopes to help with this senseless act. If you don't want to donate to it then you don't have too, we don't know the creators thoughts and motivations while setting up the page. Almost everybody here is focused on one person who is innocent until proven guilty. Please please please let's all try to work together to find the truth for all who loved Teresa. Please Let's try to ignore the rumors and focus on the true facts that have been released. I hope you can all see where I'm coming from as I write this, and know I'm not trying to be rude. I'm just very concerned about the content and direction focus has gone.


"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man."

I understand what you're saying, but at the same time it can't help be theorized/speculated in these discussion about anyone potentially involved. If they are reading, I hope they know that everyone here wants nothing more than justice for what has happened to their loved one with no intent to cause further hurt. I'll admit sometimes it's easy to forget that others are reading too, but I also know I've been a member here for 12 years and while I don't frequently post I do read often and know this to be a group of smart, sensitive, and intelligent people whose primary focus is very much the victims.

 

[Cardinal47]

Catching up on this thread today has been really upsetting. When you post please please remember that this is a victim/family friendly forum. There have been no POI's named, that includes her husband, who at this time is also a victim. I know for a fact family and friends of Teresa are reading here, and these people are truly grieving the loss of their family member, friend, colleague, and/or doctor. I feel like there is too much tunnel vision in this thread and other avenues need to be explored. I also don't think that the amount in the go-fund-me page is relevant right now, the creator could have just put a random number, in hopes to help with this senseless act. If you don't want to donate to it then you don't have too, we don't know the creators thoughts and motivations while setting up the page. Almost everybody here is focused on one person who is innocent until proven guilty. Please please please let's all try to work together to find the truth for all who loved Teresa. Please Let's try to ignore the rumors and focus on the true facts that have been released. I hope you can all see where I'm coming from as I write this, and know I'm not trying to be rude. I'm just very concerned about the content and direction focus has gone.

I wonder what you think of the sheriffs statement?

Marker2:31

Sheriff Mike Scott said 'when all the facts come out, books and movies will be written about the crime'.

http://www.nbc-2.com/story/29494119/...m#.VZyID5XbKZP

 

[Msl1966]

I feel uncomfortable even posting this thought, but it would explain quite a bit. Could she have been involved with someone and needed to talk to him...possibly breaking things off. To avoid neighbors seeing a car in the driveway, maybe she picked him up somewhere and brought him back to her house. A fight may have started in the car; hence, evidence in the van. Possibly the argument led into the house and dogs didn't bark because this was not a stranger to them. Perhaps the women she worked with were aware of this other person and had reason to be quickly concerned and felt it was safest to call police instead of chekcing on own. To add to this, maybe he did not kill her at first and left. Possibly came back in own car and that is when the murder took place. And in the end, maybe he is the one that called to report her home needing to be checked.

 

[Cardinal47]

Honestly with that statement from the sheriff my head is all over the place with this one! I have imagined the wildest things happening.

 

[LvsAMystry]

Honestly with that statement from the sheriff my head is all over the place with this one! I have imagined the wildest things happening.

I know, I can't help but think it must be something no one would even imagine. It does make me feel they are making progress and are on the right road, which is very much a good thing to hear

 

[Quiet Time]

He says his investigators have processed hundreds of pieces of evidence from inside the home and elsewhere, including from cell phones and computers in her home and her office.

OMG I can't wait...I've got my own idea as to what all took place. The 'connectivity' make take shape pretty soon.

 

[wfgodot]

Easy to imagine a book and film being cast with a colorful array of characters given the crew possibly in place in real life in Dr. Sievers's office -- "Lenka Spiska: Medical Intuitive, Quantum Healer & Intuologist" being a prime example of a type one might not generally encounter at the practice of, say, to put it mildly, a more traditional MD.

 

[tiredblondy]

My suggestion to them is that they should prepare for the possibility that if and when a person or people are arrested, it's going to be hurtful all over again.

The murderer is clearly a person or people the doc knew. Probably knew well.

My heart goes out to her friends and family: I really get that her loss is huge for them.

(But, yes, I do think the amount is completely relevant)

Agree, so so sad.

 

[LvsAMystry]

So I was doing some looking into potential business connections involved such as corporations partners etc as potential "connections," and have to say there are a LOT of business entities for the family TS and MS, which in itself doesn't necessarily mean anything but certainly opens a very very wide door of possible "connectivity."

See for yourself but sorry iPad won't let me direct link: search.sunbiz.org

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

From what I've read on the SIL, she passed away due to a lengthy illness.

Weird huh? Looks like she worked in a similar field as TS at one time. Could it have been an angry patient? Now I am wondering! Both were also 46.

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

Or else business colleague is exaggerating, or somehow involved. Wonder what her relationship was like with doctor's hubby, given that he was apparently the office manager at the clinic. From pictures online, colleague also a very attractive woman.

Hinky to me that g0fundme acct set up a mere 1 day following body being found. 1 day? And created either by husband or said business colleague? So close to finding out that a spouse/business colleague has been murdered in her home, and thoughts of money are on the mind? That is so off to me. And goal to raise 1 million dollars? Say what? Like come on now. I can see people trying to help raise donations for a family to pay for funeral expenses and such but to supplement the income of the deceased person for years to come? That's absurd to me and I hope that LE and investigators find it equally as absurd. Surely her husband is capable of working and supporting his 2 daughters? And wouldn't it be realistic to think that his wife would have had a life insurance policy?

And I've seen it mentioned in the comments on the g0fundme page, from those shocked about the 1 million dollar fundraising goal, that there are other online donations being collected as well. A quick search shows that a patient who wished to be anonymous opened up an acct for donations in doctor's name, at a bank:

http://www.news-press.com/story/new...assist-family-of-murdered-estero-md/29562371/

I'm currently traveling with iffy internet. Her business colleague stated something to the effect that as soon as she was a minute late, they knew something was wrong.

A minute late and you know something bad happened? This was a known threat.

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

I don't know how to word this as tactfully as I intend to............but if the fundraising goal of a whopping 1 million dollars was intended to replace the doctor's earnings over a period of time, well........why would anyone (the spouse, the business colleague/LMT who wrote the blurb in the g0fundme page) expect that other people should essentially finance the surviving spouse and his 2 childrens' lives? It's not like the husband was some disabled individual who would not be capable of finding another job and support his 2 children? Being in the health care field myself, working with and being friends with many doctors, I know for a fact that if any of them were to pass unexpectedly (whether murder, accident, otherwise), their surviving spouse would not EVER go for ANYONE setting up an online fundraising acct.......not even for basic funeral expenses.

Now I see in the comments on the doctor's page, there are a few expressing shock at the amount of the fundraising goal (no doubt), and someone made the comment that *if* the set goal is not reached, whatever monies are donated will just sit there, non-accessible............is this true?

It is just a thought based on the amount requested in the go-fund-me. Most of the time those accounts are set up for people who really are in need of money such as for funeral expenses. The $1 million seems very excessive unless it is to replace what she would have earned over a period of time.

MOO

 

[kammiemc]

Because the "thanks" button wasn't enough, here comes my post thanking you. I echo this sentiment wholeheartedly.
You could go broke paying for the privilege of her alternative treatments. No insurance accepted...is that because she'd such a vibrantly strong practice that she didn't need the hassle of getting paid through a Blue Cross type thing...or because standard insurance wouldn't cover her type of treatments? Curious. I genuinely don't know how that goes.
I know I pay a lot of money for my excellent health benefits and I'm a big fan of paying copays and not full freight.

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I have a huge hunch that the line of treatments that she provided were very valuable to her clientele, but unlikely covered by insurance.

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

Has there been any mention of the husband's occupation? Sorry if I missed it. The amount appears that the Doctor didn't have a life-insurance policy and this is for the family to compensate them for her lost wages. Perhaps also the office staff.

:waitasec:

Why would the office staff need to have their wages compensated? Sure, they should be paid up to date for their time worked and you'd think wage money would already come from business income to date, considering the clinic demands payment the day of services rendered. Surely not ongoing wage replacement, it's not like the remaining clinic staff can't secure employment elsewhere. There's a new article that was posted here recently, the interview with the clinic nurse...and in that article it stated she had already secured employment at the doctor's office next door to Dr Siever's clinic.

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

How do we know the dogs were even there? Perhaps because the family was out of town, the dogs were being looked after at a kennel or in the home of the usual dog sitter/walker? IMO the dogs were not there. For even if they were in another part of the home from where she was killed, ad even if the dogs "knew" the killer, IMO the dogs would have sensed the danger.....heard the "shrill" sound and "loud voice" that the neighbors heard, and would have been barking their heads off.

I vote #1 or #3. However, there was just a case where dogs were put outside (or left outside) of their owners' house by the murderers for 18 hours and they didn't bark enough to get anyone's attention that something was up.


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[LayzeeDayzee]

The clinic nurse says in this interview here that SHE did drive to the doctor's house, upon learning from a phone call to the office, that doctor's block was taped off/police everywhere:

On Monday, the doctor failed to show. Hoskins knew something was wrong.

"The phone rang. The girl in the front office picked it up and said there's crime tape. Her block is taped off, and there's police everywhere," said Hoskins.

Hoskins immediately drove to the doctor's home and spoke with a deputy.

"He said she's passed," said Hoskins. "I called Mark, and I said I know what's going, but I don't know what's going on. He was hysterical."

"I said where are you. He said I'm on my way home. I said Mark I'm headed back to the office to take care of things."

That's exactly what Hoskins did. Her first instinct as a care provider was to care for her patients.

http://www.nbc-2.com/story/29475659...a-springs-doctor-speaks-out?clienttype=mobile

Very interesting...so her office wasn't notified till after 9:45..because LE has incident report listed as 9:43. It will be interesting to know who notified the office and LE. The nurse said nothing about anyone from the office going to check on DR .. nor does she mention anything about calling LE to check on the DR. This case continues to be more
puzzling.
The alarm not set or not functioning
Family still in CT
Donation fund
Door broken
Donation Fund

 

[LadyL]

Catching up on this thread today has been really upsetting. When you post please please remember that this is a victim/family friendly forum. There have been no POI's named, that includes her husband, who at this time is also a victim. I know for a fact family and friends of Teresa are reading here, and these people are truly grieving the loss of their family member, friend, colleague, and/or doctor. I feel like there is too much tunnel vision in this thread and other avenues need to be explored. I also don't think that the amount in the go-fund-me page is relevant right now, the creator could have just put a random number, in hopes to help with this senseless act. If you don't want to donate to it then you don't have too, we don't know the creators thoughts and motivations while setting up the page. Almost everybody here is focused on one person who is innocent until proven guilty. Please please please let's all try to work together to find the truth for all who loved Teresa. Please Let's try to ignore the rumors and focus on the true facts that have been released. I hope you can all see where I'm coming from as I write this, and know I'm not trying to be rude. I'm just very concerned about the content and direction focus has gone.


"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man."

sorry but how do you 'know for a fact' that family & friends are reading here? no offense intended but while TOS restricts us from posting gossip and sleuthing innocent parties, it also requires that we not post 'insider' statements without being verified by admin

most of us have the same goal and that is justice for the victim

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

One thing that puzzles me. Wouldn't the person who jimmied the side door to get in have been taking a huge risk that breaking into the house would set off a security alarm? Yes, okay, it just so happens that it doesn't appear the alarm went off but they couldn't have known it would have, or could they have?

Also, where did the hammer come from? Did the doctor grab one from somewhere in the house to use to defend herself only it was used against her? I'm sure if someone breaks into a home with the intention of killing someone, they're going to go there armed with some kind of weapon, they're not going to assume that they'll find a weapon to use in the home. A hammer is a bit of an odd weapon to me......odd as in you dont often hear about someone being murdered with a hammer. Knife yes, gun yes, strangled yes...but hammer?

I gotta say though.....one thing that irks me. One neighbor reports having heard a 'shrill' scream/noise around 5am, another a loud man's voice.....yet nobody calls the police. That just bugs me. If I heard any strange noise like these in the night/early morning, you can rest assured I would call police, just to be on the safe side.......why not? A phone call takes 2 minutes.

I also think that while it's not uncommon for ppl to forget to arm their home security system, it would be reasonable to think that a wife/mother who is home alone while her family is away, would be more inclined to remember to do so. Lots of girlfriends and relatives (female) I have don't like it when they're at home alone and family is away. Some find it a tad unnerving to be home alone, just because they're so used to the security of having their husband there. So IF it's for sure the alarm did not go off, that says to me that the person who did this was someone she knew and let in the home.......and maybe they had an argument, that person left then later returned and broke in.

Perhaps they had a neighborhood teenager dog sitting, so they did not set the alarm. Sometimes it is easier that way than worrying about the sitter remembering to disarm the alarm before he/she goes in and then setting it again upon leaving.

Or maybe the family just didn't use the alarm often so it wasn't unusual for the Dr.to not set it.

To answer a question up thread, yes, the system tells what time the alarm was turned off or on and also what code was used. Many households have different codes for people using the alarm such as the nanny, the housekeeper, the older children etc.