FL - Dr Teresa Sievers, 46, murdered in home, Bonita Springs, June 2015 #2

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  • #141
although it's possible that a thief broke in to the garage first, looked around for goodies, retrieved the hammer to jimmy the side door, got surprised by Teresa, she screamed & he yelled at her to shut up and killed her with the hammer because it was in his hand - he left without stealing anything because by that point, he just had to get the heck outta dodge & hadn't planned on murder

add in the wrinkle that this thief may have known & targeted Teresa's house because he thought they were out of town & it only enhances the above theory IMO

here's a break & enter that just happened in the same area on Thurs. morning but I don't yet know what time of morning it occurred (wouldn't it be wild if we found a connection between this thief and Teresa?):

http://www.winknews.com/2015/07/11/naples-homeowner-holds-would-be-burglar-at-gunpoint/
Omg my aunt and cousin only lives a few streets over from where that happened in Naples! Thanks for posting this LadyL

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  • #142
What if the hammer on the scene is another hammer? What if the hammer is a ruse altogether in an attempt to cover up the true COD ? Farfetched? Not if the perp(s) are locals. Another hammer left at the scene could match the mark(s) on the victim, but would not match any other prints at the scene. Now that would be a real twist. Remember when I posted about the witnesses? There is a time discrepancy between when the shrill was heard and when the arguing ( or male voice) was reported by an unnamed witness.

-No it's not

I've wondered whether the "shrill" could have come from one of the dogs. My smaller dog, similar in size to Dr. Sievers dogs, never barks or makes noise unless he is severely distressed. If I arrive home late at night he can be heard (from outside the house) wailing. We call it his "death cry" because it is very high pitched and sounds exactly like a woman is being repeatedly harmed. If the dogs were left outside they might have cried to come in or, if they were inside, been crying for their injured human. jmho
 
  • #143
Do you think it was actual cash or was it credit card or check?

That is a lot of cash for a person to carry. $400
 
  • #144
I've wondered whether the "shrill" could have come from one of the dogs. My smaller dog, similar in size to Dr. Sievers, never barks or makes noise unless he is severely distressed. If I arrive home late at night he can be heard (from outside the house) wailing. We call it his "death cry" because it is very high pitched and sounds exactly like a woman is being repeatedly harmed. If the dogs were left outside they might have cried to come in or, if they were inside, been crying for their injured human. jmho

Interesting, thanks
 
  • #145
What if the hammer on the scene is another hammer? What if the hammer is a ruse altogether in an attempt to cover up the true COD ? Farfetched? Not if the perp(s) are locals. Another hammer left at the scene could match the mark(s) on the victim, but would not match any other prints at the scene. Now that would be a real twist. Remember when I posted about the witnesses? There is a time discrepancy between when the shrill was heard and when the arguing ( or male voice) was reported by an unnamed witness.

-No it's not

Wow. I would not have thought of that. Very interesting. Thanks
 
  • #146
I've wondered whether the "shrill" could have come from one of the dogs. My smaller dog, similar in size to Dr. Sievers, never barks or makes noise unless he is severely distressed. If I arrive home late at night he can be heard (from outside the house) wailing. We call it his "death cry" because it is very high pitched and sounds exactly like a woman is being repeatedly harmed. If the dogs were left outside they might have cried to come in or, if they were inside, been crying for their injured human. jmho
Wait...your smaller dog is similar in size to an adult human? My mind is boggling thinking about how big your other dog must be-- :)
 
  • #147
Wait...your smaller dog is similar in size to an adult human? My mind is boggling thinking about how big your other dog must be-- :)


Oops, thanks - I fixed my mistake. I did have a Great Dane at one time that was probably bigger than Dr. Sievers...
 
  • #148
If there was more than one perp, I guess it's possible that the arguing was between the perps and not with TS, therefore not necessarily at the same time as the murder. Wasn't there a difference of about an hour between witness reports of the "shrill" and the "arguing"? Interesting that perhaps the shrill sound could have been from a dog - I hadn't considered that possibility before. I wonder if we'll hear any more tomorrow ....
 
  • #149
I've wondered whether the "shrill" could have come from one of the dogs. My smaller dog, similar in size to Dr. Sievers dogs, never barks or makes noise unless he is severely distressed. If I arrive home late at night he can be heard (from outside the house) wailing. We call it his "death cry" because it is very high pitched and sounds exactly like a woman is being repeatedly harmed. If the dogs were left outside they might have cried to come in or, if they were inside, been crying for their injured human. jmho

I had a Bichon that did the same thing.
 
  • #150
Maybe this will be the week they make an arrest.
 
  • #151
Regarding the hammer, I don't believe there has been any official confirmation that a hammer was the murder weapon. We don't even know if the murder weapon was found. Where did that report first originate from?
 
  • #152
If there was more than one perp, I guess it's possible that the arguing was between the perps and not with TS, therefore not necessarily at the same time as the murder. Wasn't there a difference of about an hour between witness reports of the "shrill" and the "arguing"? Interesting that perhaps the shrill sound could have been from a dog - I hadn't considered that possibility before. I wonder if we'll hear any more tomorrow ....

The witness reporting the shrill said she heard it at around 5am Monday morning, and then in another interview she said it was as soon as the sun came up. Sunrise on June 29th was at 5:27am. The male voice was around 6am. If we allow an additional margin of 15 minutes both ways, we may be able to consolidate both accounts. And yet, the post about a dog shrill is an additional thought to consider. LE will know app. TOD by now. That could have happened way before 5:27am though.

-No it's not
 
  • #153
Regarding the hammer, I don't believe there has been any official confirmation that a hammer was the murder weapon. We don't even know if the murder weapon was found. Where did that report first originate from?

That was leaked information. No confirmation or denial according to Lee County Sheriff Mike Scott. It may or may not have been leaked intentionally by LE. That is just my personal opinion of course.

-No it's not
 
  • #154
She was tiny. Mickey Shunick (sp?) was small too and she fought and injured a serial killer.

I wonder if the doctor defended herself and has evidence on her?
 
  • #155
The witness reporting the shrill said she heard it at around 5am Monday morning, and then in another interview she said it was as soon as the sun came up. Sunrise on June 29th was at 5:27am. The male voice was around 6am. If we allow an additional margin of 15 minutes both ways, we may be able to consolidate both accounts. And yet, the post about a dog shrill is an additional thought to consider. LE will know app. TOD by now. That could have happened way before 5:27am though.

-No it's not

Thanks so much for that info! Again, I go back to these reports of sounds being way too close to daylight for comfort for a robbery or murder - how would the perp have gotten away without being spotted by anyone. I live in the desert and most of us are up early and people are out walking or leaving for work at daylight, some before and some shortly after. If the witness reports are reliable I am puzzled by the timeline. If, however, the reports are not reliable, it leaves room for the murder taking place earlier and the perp having time to leave while it was still very dark. TOD will be very interesting to have confirmed.
 
  • #156
I also like to point out there are 2 different interviews Lee County Sheriff Mike Scott gave. One interview is with Kelly Burns for NBC2. That is the interview where Mike Scott mentions the complexity of the case and that books and movies would be written about:

http://www.nbc-2.com/story/29494119/sheriff-doctors-murder-isnt-random#.VaK7AJXbKZM

The other interview is with Sam Smink from WINK NEWS:

http://www.winknews.com/2015/07/07/lee-county-sheriff-scott-breaks-silence-on-sievers-murder-case/

-No it's not
 
  • #157
Do you think it was actual cash or was it credit card or check?

That is a lot of cash for a person to carry. $400

There's a variety of ways to be fraudulent if you are the person handling the transaction.....all three forms of payment you listed above are vulnerable. Obviously, holding cash itself makes the holder more vulnerable to theft and also increases the likelihood of employee theft ('cause it's easier to pull off).
 
  • #158
There's a variety of ways to be fraudulent if you are the person handling the transaction.....all three forms of payment you listed above are vulnerable. Obviously, holding cash itself makes the holder more vulnerable to theft and also increases the likelihood of employee theft ('cause it's easier to pull off).

I was just thinking about someone having cash on hand. If she worked 8 hours, tbat would be $6400 dollars. Is that a lot of money for a robbery?

I would think the money would be deposited daily.

I think if there was theft, it would be in bookkeeping.
 
  • #159
I'm wondering if the dogs were familiar with the perp, and that's why no barking?
 
  • #160
I was just thinking about someone having cash on hand. If she worked 8 hours, tbat would be $6400 dollars. Is that a lot of money for a robbery?

I would think the money would be deposited daily.

I think if there was theft, it would be in bookkeeping.

Most people/clients use credit, ATM debit card in my experience.
 
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