FL - Dr Teresa Sievers, 46, murdered in home, Bonita Springs, June 2015 *ARRESTS* #6

[Bobbywoo]

If I had to pick,I would pick number 1---I've had suspicions about an office employee from day 1 but I can't post them here.

Same here. And if we are thinking of the same person I am not ready to rule her out yet. IMO there is something shady going on with her. Can you feel my energy? ;p

 

[yorick]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-Jr-hung-twice-Teresa-Sievers-dead-home.html

I'm a little behind due to working all weekend, so this may have been brought up...

What's up with how chummy JR's girlfriend, TS, is with CWW in those dailymail/facebook photos? Heads touching and almost cheek-to-cheek.

I'm not necessarily suggesting anything untoward, but it could indicate some power play going on. If I was JR, I would not want even my best friend posing with my girlfriend like that. CWW clearly has some power (i.e. doesn't care what JR thinks), unless they are just super friendly with each other.

 

[SurfieTX]

same here. And if we are thinking of the same person i am not ready to rule her out yet. Imo there is something shady going on with her. Can you feel my energy? ;p

lol!!

 

[whonos]

Quote Originally Posted by CoolJ
I can think of many many many scenarios in which MS is completely innocent here. And I see no real legit red flags pointing to his involvement at this point in time. My heart goes out to him and those two girls.

No "legit" red flags? One of the two arrested is a former roommate of his, a best friend since high school and someone he hired to handle computers for his now dead wife. I don't know how much redder it gets.

There are some interesting and creative scenarios that eliminate MS, but none of them can can answer Why anyone would murder the wife of a "blood brother" of many (30?) years, without his consent.

 

[DexterMorgan]

My safes are too heavy to take and are bolted.

And since this was a hired hit. I'm sure that the killer knew the safes were not easily removable before hand.

But he had to have known that there were safes in the house. And I'm sure if he was lucky enough to bypass the alarms and cameras (Cough Cough) ; Then it's a good chance that he was lucky enough to find the combinations to the safe. Especially since it was somewhat of an inside job.

 

[Paulas88]

RE: The photo of JR with the arrow pointing to his crotch while reclining in a chair. To me it looks like blood smears on the wall behind him. At first I thought the arrow was a piece of rope that he may have used to subdue TS. Someone else said it was a red arrow, but the photo was B&W so there was no red. I have it clipped from his facebook page if anyone wants me to repost it.

Could you please! I haven't seen it.

 

[beezwax404]

But what if she was killed when she wouldn't give him the combinations to the safes.

Honestly I think WW saw an easy way to make some money, rich friends out of town, send JR. give him a piece of the pie.
I don't think they were supposed to be home till wed,

Very plausible. WW knows they don't accept insurance. Maybe they brought home a lot of cash and stored it in the safe before it was deposited. Maybe they invested in a commodity like gold and kept it in the safe. WW was his best friend so he probably knew about it from casual conversation. They went in with tools to break open a safe and instead were walked in on. It is possible.

 

[wondering25]

Actually, I believe it was Teresa's brother's, Mark's brothers-in-laws, who were said to be there testing the alarm system.

Bloody murderer scene etc.. why would you need TS's brother to test an alarm system? Millions of people in this world..anyone could walk in and out and test a system.. Did the brother or brotherinlaw install the system... what made this guy qualified to "test" a system??? Why wouldnt you use forensic alarm experts.. there may be these kinds of people available. JMO

 

[Bobbywoo]

http://www.nbc-2.com/story/29893142/missouri-man-to-be-charged-with-sievers-murder#.VeNufvlVhBc
"Evidently quite a bit of evidence. He brought it all here and threw it away and told Taylor where it was. I think they found the bloody jumpsuit he wore," said Cathy Gaston, a family member.

I caught the "buried" also and assumed Skinner mispoke since I didn't remember it reported anywhere how they were disposed of. Also, he hadn't spoken to MS for about a month and this info has not yet been known. JMO

 

[debbiegarcia36]

Very plausible. WW knows they don't accept insurance. Maybe they brought home a lot of cash and stored it in the safe before it was deposited. Maybe they invested in a commodity like gold and kept it in the safe. WW was his best friend so he probably knew about it from casual conversation. They went in with tools to break open a safe and instead were walked in on. It is possible.

Dont most people pay with either a debit or credit card? I don't think many people carry wads of cash around. Just saying.

DLG

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

One thing about home safes.....you could claim that you always kept them unlocked & empty....but there's no real way to prove that. No surveillance, nada, nothing.

 

[LaLaw2000]

Of course LE works from the inside out looking at spouse and family members first unless there is substantial evidence no spouse or family member was involved.

How many times have we heard the spouse say, "Give me a polygraph. Do anything to clear me so that you can move on and find the real murderer"? Has that happened in this case? If LE can find nothing incriminating on the spouse, why isn't he cleared? In this case, the spouse has a clear interwoven relationship with at least one (WW) of the people charged with second degree murder. I say interwoven because not only is WW a friend of MS from early childhood, he is also the IT for TS's medical practice. WW had at least a business relationship with TS. Given all that is known so far, who would not suspect the spouse as having a hand in this? There are no coincidences in crime or murder, IMO. If MS did not have a hand in this, then he was clearly being set up as to look as if he did. Again, IMO. Right now, it does look to me as if he did. MOO.

As for life insurance, many people have the equivalent in coverage of what that person would have made in his or her lifetime when they are the principle wage earner in the family. It would surprise me if TS did not have several million in life insurance, especially being that she owned a medical practice.

This whole case is absolutely disgusting. Two little girls are forever without their Mother, and right now it isn't looking too good for their Father, imo.

I've kept up with this case even though I am just now putting my 2 cents worth in. Nothing will surprise me from this point on!

 

[indianwin2001]

Same here. And if we are thinking of the same person I am not ready to rule her out yet. IMO there is something shady going on with her. Can you feel my energy? ;p

YES I can

 

[Riversinthedesert]

Skinner also stated that he asked MS if anything had been stolen and MS said he didn't know...Skinner said what about the safes and MS said that LE made him open them. If there was something vital in the safes missing then wouldn't MS tell his friend that something was missing or not missing.

I agree ..this does not sound like a burglary. If burglary had occurred it would be apparent to MS. IMO

Re: motive...thought it was reported very early on there was no sexuaal assault or robbery. Unless of course it was something that people would not want to admit was stolen.I

 

[Mountaingazer]

RE: The photo of JR with the arrow pointing to his crotch while reclining in a chair. To me it looks like blood smears on the wall behind him. At first I thought the arrow was a piece of rope that he may have used to subdue TS. Someone else said it was a red arrow, but the photo was B&W so there was no red. I have it clipped from his facebook page if anyone wants me to repost it.

That photo was first posted to the girlfriend's FB a few months before the murder in full color with a red arrow. He set a black and white version of it on his FB the day after the murder.

 

[debbiegarcia36]

I caught the "buried" also and assumed Skinner mispoke since I didn't remember it reported anywhere how they were disposed of. Also, he hadn't spoken to MS for about a month and this info has not yet been known. JMO

It was confusing how it was reported. I read where JR told his GF that he "threw" some stuff away and then he showed or told her where it was "hidden".

DLG

 

[LvsAMystry]

Excellent points!!!

Someone clearly must have provided substantial information as to how, when and where to enter the Sievers' home. Then, would JR be capable of doing this alone? Or, was WW also at the house, or in the neighborhood as a driver? Without advance information this perp or perps would have had to be extremely lucky to know all the details you mentioned. It seems unlikely that he or they were not prepared. I would say that if WW had not been charged with murder, it may have been plausible that WW intended to steal something important and JR became uncontrollable when faced with TS discovering them, but I don't believe he was charged as is unless he was a co-conspirator or the middle man. At this point I am not buying the robbery theory, I am believing the hit man theory.

Also, there's that bloody jumpsuit ... how can that be explained away? It almost proves it was a planned murder and not merely a robbery gone bad JMHO

Agreed re: the jumpsuit, no getting around that. I'll go further to say I feel the apparent instruction to LE to look under nails seems contrived and out of place. My guess from knowing there'd be nothing to find because if suited up also likely gloved and whatever else so no chance of skin contact

 

[lakshmi]

Bloody murderer scene etc.. why would you need TS's brother to test an alarm system? Millions of people in this world..anyone could walk in and out and test a system.. Did the brother or brotherinlaw install the system... what made this guy qualified to "test" a system??? Why wouldnt you use forensic alarm experts.. there may be these kinds of people available. JMO

Because MS was trying to show his beloved wife's brothers he had installed a great and secure security system but for some reason it did not work the very day she was there alone.

I think Teresa's brothers were wondering out loud among themselves.

If anything happened to me, my brother would be on it too.

 

[Bobbywoo]

It was confusing how it was reported. I read where JR told his GF that he "threw" some stuff away and then he showed or told her where it was "hidden".

DLG

Exactly! That part confused me too. I originally remember it as being hidden then upon going back it said thrown away. Different media outlets maybe? I can't remember where I saw "hidden"

 

[DexterMorgan]

Very plausible. WW knows they don't accept insurance. Maybe they brought home a lot of cash and stored it in the safe before it was deposited. Maybe they invested in a commodity like gold and kept it in the safe. WW was his best friend so he probably knew about it from casual conversation. They went in with tools to break open a safe and instead were walked in on. It is possible.

They were not walked in on. They were expecting her. It's obvious that twin would have spoken to Mark that day just to make sure that nobody would have been home.

But if nobody is home than how would they get the safe open. Plus the family was gone for a week. But they pick the night where Doc is coming home solo. Since this was a inside hit. Then twin was knowledgeable about the safe and it's contents and what it would take to open them up or to remove those things from the home during the entire week that the family was out of town.

So I think it was originally about killing her. And she chose not to give up the combination to the safe because she knew he was going to kill her anyways.

So the safe could have been a secondary thought.