FL - Dr Teresa Sievers, 46, murdered in home, Bonita Springs, June 2015 *ARRESTS* #7

[Bobbywoo]

Except the Sheriff had already said no comment when asked about MS cooperating, which definitely implies no

Could he have said that to give the impression that MS isn't cooperative, with the intent of keeping the girls safe? If some think MS is talking he may be in danger? I'm trying so hard to find him innocent

 

[hockeymom4]

I don't think the yelling at 5AM had anything at all to do with this murder. My opinion.

Hmm.... I do now know from poster D that Dr TS was no longer with us at 5am, but that people were still in the home, right? I guess I am lost. I am curious why they wouldn't hightail it out of there so they don't get caught. Can you expand on what you mean that you don't think it had to do with the murder? I agree that the murder itself was separate, but are you suggesting it was different people? What do you believe they were yelling about and or doing? Thanks.

 

[Eileen730]

How long would you wait before sending a neighbour to check on your partner?
I ask because I am aware that I am not given to panic, and would consider many innocent options first. Cell battery dead, sim card slipped, overslept after late flight, stopped en route for a coffee, taking a shower etc.

It would take me more than 5 or 10 mins to 'send someone round to check', it would feel disrespectful to my adult partner to have someone go check why they weren't answering their phone.
Just wondering how far outside the norm I am to not immediately fear foul play.

Maybe he didn't either!
Work calls him and tells him she didn't show up he calls her there is no ans he then calls their friend to go check see if she is there.
who said he expected foul play??????

If I didn't show up to My job (which I arrive every day earlier than I need to) My boss wuld call my husband and my husband would call my neighbor to check and see If I was there.

 

[Stopwatch]

Kings have given up crowns for the women they love. i agree with everything you said about self worth, financial ruin etc. But men and women do it all the time. I wonder about the nature of the insurance policy beneficiary.. Perhaps TS recently changed the beneficiary from her husband to her 2 children? OR, maybe, the beneficiary designation was changed by "someone" having a POA from the 2 children to the husband. Now you would need a witness to change a beneficiary ( i know, i just did it). I wonder if there is a clue there somewhere? TS may have taken some steps prior to a split if one was even contemplated. Maybe she did change her beneficiary from MS to someone else( like a trust for the kids) and he found out? Sadly, money is a big motivator and with the solicitations it appears it certainly is front and center in this situation. JMO

When I think of it as MS fearing losing TS and feeling "wronged" (maybe in his mind, as her office manager he "made her" who she was, cough, cough), the whole thing makes more sense. It would be a lot easier to convince his loyal friend, CWW to help him in those circumstances. Especially, since CWW also had something to lose if she left MS. Again, why would CWW be willing to risk *everything* to help his buddy, when he was also potentially putting himself out of work?

Everyone thought it had to be someone who was enraged. Why would MS be enraged if he had decided that TS was in his way and he could make more money other ways? It's possible he wanted out because was angry about years of arguing or feeling belittled, but there is an element of anger that seems more like a reaction to being rejected, IMO.

 

[LvsAMystry]

Could he have said that to give the impression that MS isn't cooperative, with the intent of keeping the girls safe? If some think MS is talking he may be in danger? I'm trying so hard to find him innocent

Possibly I guess but why not just another I don't want to address that. Anything is possible I don't think anything will surprise me, but yes I also am finding it hard to believe he's innocent although this is one instance I'd love to be wrong

 

[TTF14]

Hmm.... I do now know from poster D that Dr TS was no longer with us at 5am, but that people were still in the home, right? I guess I am lost. I am curious why they wouldn't hightail it out of there so they don't get caught. Can you expand on what you mean that you don't think it had to do with the murder? I agree that the murder itself was separate, but are you suggesting it was different people? What do you believe they were yelling about and or doing? Thanks.

I don't think it's been confirmed the perps were still there at that time, was it? Correct me if I am wrong.

What I meant was that I think that whatever yelling was heard was completely unrelated to this house and this case. Could have been down the street. Hell, the "shrill" could have been a fox or a cat in heat.

I just think it is going to end up being one of those things that has no relevance.

 

[Dushi]

I don't know, but we don't know who LE has an eye on. Or how many they have an eye on.
Maybe it is best that nobody knows what anyone else is saying, doing.

MS may not be cooperating at all.
not good.

he may be helping LE and they feel its better not to discuss it for whatever reason

 

[NSS]

I had to dog - sit for friends in Fl a few times.

Just a twice daily walk for dog to do his business and feed and water. It was hot and humid so I tried to do it after the school run in the morning and early evening when it was cooler.

So if TS arrived home on Sunday and was due to work Monday, wouldn't the dog walker have arrived? Maybe not or it is possible that TS planned on walking them just once when she got home from work.

If the dogs were home at the time of the crime, they would likely bark unless locked in a room/garage.

My train of thought (because I haven't got past the initial reporting panic yet) is that without the dog walker having arrived (or that person would have discovered TS) I may have assumed she was late back from a dog walk, even the most punctual people have stuff happen and cell phones occasionally malfunction.

9am - Patients are waiting and TS hasn't shown up, colleagues attempt to call.
9am (ish) Car parked in the driveway of the home (declared uninvolved so likely the freindly Dr who was sent to check) *Note* not a neighbour or they wouldn't have needed their car.
What time did the office call MS? Has to be prior to 9am since person above is there shortly after 9am.
Just prior to 9am MS takes a call from the office and probably converses with, have you tried to call, how long ago, did you check the house phone......no probs I'll check and get back to you.
By, shortly after 9am, he has tried to call TS, no answer, a few what is the matter thoughts.
An idea to call friend to check on her.
Call friend and explain that, TS hasn't shown up for work, the office can't contact her, tried her phone x times myself, can you pop around?

Wondering if MS now calls office to let them know that the friend is headed out to check.

Friend arrives, gains entry (maybe criminals left the door open) and discovers TS (unsure where she was found), he vomits and calls LE who are on scene at 9.45am.

I don't know when MS was informed, or if he called the friend during this 45 mins, or if he called the office to brief them.

 

[flgrl017]

However, they didn't have the jumpsuit at the time saliva samples were taken?

True but they were in missouri early on and who knows what else they have, and the point was the perps didn't necessarily have to come into direct contact with the dogs in order to have dna on them.

 

[LaLaw2000]

One thing we know is that no one has been cleared in this case. If MS cannot be cleared after all this time, then there has to be something suspicious there, IMO. Just being out of state would not be enough to clear him if he is the one who set this murder up. CWW being his long time best friend is suspicious in and of itself since he (CWW) is being held on a second degree murder charge. Who would benefit the most from the murder of Dr. Sievers? The answer to that would be MS IF he were the beneficiary to Dr. Sievers life insurance policy. Of course things are not always what they seem to be, but that would be the most simplistic answer. Given that, it makes me wonder if that is really the case.

The Sheriff stated on Nancy Grace that he had spent quite a lot of time with the children of the Sievers. He did not include MS in that statement. That makes me wonder if MS is at that same location.

Nothing I can come up with really adds up. Everything is a big mystery at this point and we are just waiting to see what else comes out. I am at a complete loss as to what the 'WOW' factor will be. There is only one thing that would really make me go 'WOW' and I cannot state it here and besides that, I believe my suspicion has already been shot down.

I am just so angry that Dr. Sievers was murdered. I want to see JR and CWW fry if they are guilty (and I believe they are). Anyone else involved needs to go down with them.

My post doesn't help solve anything but it made me feel better to write it.

MOO

 

[Eileen730]

But he spoke to skinner the other day? See, i agree with you that the lawyer would say zip it.. .. so if this skinner person is real.. he spoke to him but not the family? How about a text "hey AL glad to hear of the 2 arrests.. thinking of you". JMO

they knew about the arrests before they were arrested It is possible they spoke then, then have not spoken since. And its just possible the two do not like each other which I believe is the case!
JMO

 

[hockeymom4]

I don't think it's been confirmed the perps were still there at that time, was it? Correct me if I am wrong.

What I meant was that I think that whatever yelling was heard was completely unrelated to this house and this case. Could have been down the street. Hell, the "shrill" could have been a fox or a cat in heat.

I just think it is going to end up being one of those things that has no relevance.

Ohhh, got you! I have not read anywhere in MSM that the perps were still in the house, but on here have read differently. I think people are making assumptions. I agree with you because it makes no sense to me that they would stick around. Totally agree that it is probably unrelated.

Anyone know if around the time she came home if a car was reportedly seen that wasn't hers? Also, were they believed to be in the house when she arrived?

 

[flgrl017]

Do we know if jr traded in a vehicle when he bought the van? I wonder what they drove to Florida.

 

[Paulas88]

Ohhh, got you! I have not read anywhere in MSM that the perps were still in the house, but on here have read differently. I think people are making assumptions. I agree with you because it makes no sense to me that they would stick around. Totally agree that it is probably unrelated.

Anyone know if around the time she came home if a car was reportedly seen that wasn't hers? Also, were they believed to be in the house when she arrived?

Maybe you got that assumption from Skinner's accounting of the crime, " WW & JR
hung around contemplating whether or not to kill her" NOT

 

[Eileen730]

I think CWW is the mastermind to this entire murder. I believe he wanted TS out of the way.
Why I haven't a clue!

 

[hockeymom4]

Maybe you got that assumption from Skinner's accounting of the crime, " WW & JR
hung around contemplating whether or not to kill her" NOT

I read it on Skinner's thread, but have read it on this thread multiple times. I think people may have been confused until poster D came in and clarified, saying she was deceased at the 5am shrill. Maybe....

So much that is confusing.

 

[hockeymom4]

I think CWW is the mastermind to this entire murder. I believe he wanted TS out of the way.
Why I haven't a clue!

I agree with a lot of what you have said, especially this. Maybe he wanted MS only in his life.... I mean they looked a lot alike and maybe she got in the way of their relationship....

 

[SeesSeas]

Monday morning, June 29, who arrived at the home first?
The doctor who MS had phoned and requested he/she 'go to home and investigate' (Skinner's words)?
Or nurse SH who (nbc-2) went to the home after "The phone rang. The girl in the front office picked it up and said there's crime tape. Her block is taped off, and there's police everywhere, " "immediately drove to the doctor's home and spoke with a deputy" and "he said she's passed";then "I called Mark,. . ."


http://www.nbc-2.com/story/29475659...bonita-springs-doctor-speaks-out#.Veci2PlViko
Sandra Hoskins, Dr. Sievers' nurse of seven years . . . On Monday, the doctor failed to show. Hoskins knew something was wrong.
"The phone rang. The girl in the front office picked it up and said there's crime tape. Her block is taped off, and there's police everywhere," said Hoskins.
Hoskins immediately drove to the doctor's home and spoke with a deputy.
"He said she's passed," said Hoskins. "I called Mark, and I said I know what's going, but I don't know what's going on. He was hysterical."

Posted by Skinner on Thread: *Mark Sievers Verified Friend*
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...murdered-in-home-6-29&p=12030150#post12030150
MS told me about how a doctor friend of theirs (MS and TS) was called by MS to go to the home and investigate. He had been called on his cell phone by office staff telling him that TS was not in the office and not answering her phone.
The doctor friend who found her (I do not know what time of morning or early afternoon), threw up, if I recall correctly, at the near impossibility of recognition of TS when he saw her.

 

[Eileen730]

I read it on Skinner's thread, but have read it on this thread multiple times. I think people may have been confused until poster D came in and clarified, saying she was deceased at the 5am shrill. Maybe....

So much that is confusing.

that SHRILL bothers me.
Did someone come in the house and saw what they did?
Did they have someone maybe a woman with them. she sees and screams and they argue like what have u done... Maybe this was the time they left!

 

[IQuestion]

What are the chances that a house, whose occupants are on vacation, is left without an armed alarm system? Anyone traveling 1200 miles to gain access to that particular house would either have to show how he would gain access if the alarm was on, or the individual had knowledge that the alarm was off.

Something like that ?

Yes, it would be good, if Duntulum could clarify when the alarm was off.

-Nin

Sleepy good mornin' (from Cal) NIN! Some people are very lax with their security systems, especially if they think the dogs will constantly set off the alarms while the owners are gone. Then again, MS obviously had no problem with calling another Dr. (friend) to drive over to their home and enter the residence. Do you think they entertained other Dr's often? Were they close personal friends, or was EVERYONE on her practice referral list a trusted confidant?? A previous poster provided some really great info on the "apparent absence" of background checks on individuals who worked in a lot of medical offices... which is really bothersome in an environment of increasing scrutiny of those who work in the medical field. Do you think due diligence was exercised in the choice of individuals chosen to be "a part of the inner circle referrals" list? Did CWW help organize the computers of any other offices on the referral list? Anybody know?
(FYI...google can be incredible research tool.)