Fl - Duval Co - Velvet Floyd Burns, 44, found murdered, Doris Lane, Jacksonville

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perfect, thanks Jax
Here's another angle. It appears that the cam is facing the front door, but if you look beyond the door to the right, you can see how the road curves around.
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Here's another camera mounted on the roof of the Mobil Station, 1/2 mile north of Doris Lane at the corner of Commonwealth Ave. The cam is on the left side of the building.
Anyone that was driving would have had to either pass this cam, or the cam south across from the General Store to flee the area, if they were driving.
If they made a right turn on Commonwealth, at the Mobil Station heading towards 295, they would have passed many businesses with cameras.

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Someone was asking about where her children may have been.
If the pics on the Facebook page are her kids, it appears they are older and may have moved out or are in college?


I grew up with her and yes her children are in college away from home
 
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Here's another camera mounted on the roof of the Mobil Station, 1/2 mile north of Doris Lane at the corner of Commonwealth Ave. The cam is on the left side of the building.
Anyone that was driving would have had to either pass this cam, or the cam south across from the General Store to flee the area, if they were driving.
If they made a right turn on Commonwealth, at the Mobil Station heading towards 295, they would have passed many businesses with cameras.

Google Maps
Do we know that the car w/ no lights was actually involved? It sounds like they know she's dead but not sure how or why. Was there an actual breaking? If so, were things taken. Was she found in a room other than where she was sleeping?
 
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I grew up with her and yes her children are in college away from home

Welcome to WS. Sorry the circumstances are so awful.
 
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Do we know that the car w/ no lights was actually involved? It sounds like they know she's dead but not sure how or why. Was there an actual breaking? If so, were things taken. Was she found in a room other than where she was sleeping?
No, we're not sure if a car was involved, or not. LE may very well know by now, but may be keeping tight lipped about it.
IMO the possibilities are...
1. Burglary or sexual assault via car.
2. Burglary or sexual assault via the bike path by a transient.
3. Burglary or sexual assault by someone that lives in the neighborhood.
4. A hit... meaning her husband/family is involved.
5. Love triangle.
6. Revenge.. ie business deal gone bad, or some other financial matter.

All speculation.
A crime of opportunity?
I wonder if she got up when her husband did that morning and was seen through a window by someone that was waiting on the bike path?
Or, someone that was just turning around in a car, and saw her through a window?
Just a few thoughts.
 
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Nice neighbors not to bother calling to report a car driving up and down the street with headlights off at 4am. :(

Why would you be up, at 4am, seeing a car driving in the street????
 
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Why would you be up, at 4am, seeing a car driving in the street????
They either had animals to care for or there could have been a few who run together on that trail prior to their morning commute. A few late shift workers who were still awake could also be an option.
 
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Why would you be up, at 4am, seeing a car driving in the street????

Menopause messes with your sleep in mighty ways.
 
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Why would you be up, at 4am, seeing a car driving in the street????

I don't find it strange that someone was awake as my sleep patterns are odd but I do question why no one called the police on a car driving around with no headlights on.
 
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I don't find it strange that someone was awake as my sleep patterns are odd but I do question why no one called the police on a car driving around with no headlights on.

I don't know- I don't call the police for every thing I find odd. Probably because I live in a small town whose newspaper publishes a list of all 9-1-1 calls weekly. And our HOA has a member who is constantly calling the police when someone new is motor-delivering the Sunday paper and they don't recognize the 'car driving slowly with frequent stops through the neighborhood'. Different strokes I guess.
 
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1000% not just by chance that the car driving up and down the street without headlights turned on just happened to be a half hour after her husband left for work.
 
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I don't find it strange that someone was awake as my sleep patterns are odd but I do question why no one called the police on a car driving around with no headlights on.

I also do not find it extremely unusual for someone to be up at all hours of the night - I am quite frequently awake when my newspaper is delivered between 2:45 and 3:30 AM - but then again, I have autoimmune problems with symptoms (itching and pain) that keeps me awake for most of the time that is interspersed with naps that can occur during any time of the night or day. There are many times that I sleep for an hour or 2 then are up for 4-6 hours then sleep for an hour or two (wash, rinse, repeat ad infinitum). Which means that I can almost never know when I will be asleep or awake unless I have an appointment for medical for myself or for 1 or 2 (at a time) of my 9 cats - my husband drives himself to his medical appointments.

Luckily, I live in an area of Little Rock, AR where there is very little crime to observe at any time of the day - I might hear gunshots occasionally but they are over a mile away.
 
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Neighbors were up peeping around at 4am?
 

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