FL - Five killed, 8 wounded in shooting at Fort Lauderdale Airport, 6 Jan 2017

[drjones]

https://twitter.com/AirCanada/status/817482222307512320?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

 

[perfectingpink]

Do you have a direct link to this?

No, it was live. Scott Pelley was the reporter and he said he will have more on the evening news. Here is the CBS link. I will keep looking for it to be reported in writing.

http://www.cbsnews.com/evening-news/

 

[AmyPond]

Yup, should be detonated any time soon by EOD

I wonder what made this specific bag suspicious. I imagine there are a lot of random bags laying around that people dropped while running.

 

[drjones]

No idea. But that's a loaded statement if he's just speculating.

The FBI is apparently now the lead agency rather than his department.

happens all the time, im sure a certain someone else will be tweeting soon and declaring this terrorism...

 

[Purplepixii]

CNN
Shooter dropped his gun & LE converged on him

Suspect flew to FL for AK, had declared firearm.

LE looking into claims that suspect got into altercation on flight

 

[perfectingpink]

Do you have a direct link to this?

Here we go. This says he was forced to fight, not watch.

In Nov. 2016, Santiago-Ruiz walked into an FBI office in Anchorage and claimed he was being forced to fight for ISIS, law enforcement sources told CBS News. He was sent to a psychiatric hospital after police were called, sources said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/shots-fired-fort-lauderdale-airport/

 

[Ray_of_hope]

"Santiago was born in New Jersey, according to NBC News, and was a member of the U.S. Army National Guard. ABC News reports Santiago joined the National Guard in early 2016 and was honorably discharged approximately four months ago.

Santiago had lived in Anchorage since 2014, according to Alaskan court records. Those records show a criminal record there for minor traffic infractions including operating a vehicle without insurance and a broken taillight. Records also show his landlord evicted him for non-payment of rent in February 2015.

In January 2016, Santiago was charged with two misdemeanor crimes: one count of fourth-degree assault and another for damage of property over $50. According to a spokesperson from the Anchorage Police department the incident was related to domestic violence.

The case was resolved in March when Santiago entered into a deferred prosecution agreement, an alternative to adjudication where a state prosecutor dismissed the charges in exchange for Esteban’s completion of requirements that are unknown."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...-gunman-flew-with-gun-in-checked-luggage.html

 

[Hatfield]

"Federal sources told NBC News the shootings did not appear to be an act of terrorism, and both federal and family sources said Santiago had some mental health issues. "
Lived in Naples, Florida
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...409914655.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_NYBrand

I disagree wholeheartedly with this official. Try telling that to the thousands of people who fled in terror that this was not terrorism.

I dont care if it was domestic terrorism, home grown terrorism, or any other kind of terrorism. It was definitely some form of terrorism in my book.

Im getting tired of officials trying to put labels on things. How about just calling them all Mass Murderers. The perps all need prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law no matter what their stupid reason is to commit mass murder.

 

[Greater Than]

I wonder what made this specific bag suspicious. I imagine there are a lot of random bags laying around that people dropped while running.

Yes, it's an unclaimed bag.

 

[Purplepixii]

So Santiago was a war veteran, had previously been in contact with LE, FBI, had been sectioned in a psychiatric hospital. There were some warning flags there.

OMG Sen Bill Nelson "he's a mental case". Well, Mr Nelson, I hope you never have psychological problems, you orange, decrepit, ill-informed, coffin dodger! :banghead:

 

[AmyPond]

Yes, it's an unclaimed bag.

There must be tons of unclaimed bags right now. But I can't imagine they'd blow them all up.

 

[cuffem]

What a . He walked around imperiously shooting through luggage to get at poor, scared, innocent people who were trying to save their lives.

I so want someone to mock and humiliate bastards like this who stay alive. Ask them what kind of cowardly, weak, little person they are to shoot innocent people. Talk about how they have tarnished their family's name
forever and will be remembered as a gutless, infantile coward. A worthless human being who accomplished nothing in life and should never have been born because they are a waste of air.

It would have no effect on them.

 

[Greater Than]

The unclaimed bag they exploded was Santiago's.

 

[AmyPond]

On CNN it looks like they are looking at every single car in the parking garage. I am glad they are being thorough because you can never be too careful.

In situations like this, do they have to talk to every single person that is there before they are allow them to leave?

 

[AmyPond]

The unclaimed bag they exploded was Santiago's.

Oh. I hadn't seen that. I thought it was a random bag near the railroad tracks or something.

 

[Greater Than]

It appears there is a presser coming up with the governor.

 

[gitana1]

Forgive me, I'm from the UK, where the mere thought of being allowed to roam around freely with a weapon just boggles my mind. I'll never understand it, nor do I want to if I'm honest :facepalm:

I get it. The thing is, our unique heritage as a nation that rose up against its colonial rulers and then expanded into territories populated by native Americans who weren't happy we were there, and bands of lawless people, created a culture that mythologizes and reveres guns and gun ownership.

Our Western mythology created a culture that views guns as a source of power and security and makes gun ownership an almost sacred right. In fact, it's so pervasive that I really don;t know anyone except my mom, who is from Holland, who hasn't shot a gun. For us as young people it was almost a rite of passage to go up into the hills or canyons and shoot off shotguns and rifles and handguns at least a few times a year.

As a result of that, the kind of gun control you see in other countries is highly unlikely to work here. Australia responded to a horrific mass shooting with super tough gun control laws. But we saw zero change after Newtown where 20 little kids were shot to death. And I think even if one day we did institute tough gun laws, gun ownership would still remain because the attitude about guns wouldn't disappear. People just wouldn't follow the laws and it would be too hard to police with so many guns in the nation.

So what can we do? IMO, we have to come up with something else to prevent these mass murders. A change in attitude would be great. A change in viewing the gun as an expression of power and machismo and heroism, and instead as merely a tool. But that will take decades. maybe 100 years.

In the meantime, my opinion is and has been that we have to take away the motivation of these cowards. They want notoriety. They want everyone to know what they did and how angry they are. The media and the public and LE should start refusing to plaster their pictures and names everywhere, or refer to them as the macho-sounding "gunman" or "killer" and instead, publicly refer to them as cowardly little freaks.

I truly believe that if we did that, the next disgruntled, alienated, rage-filled monster in the making wouldn't have as much motivation.

 

[Greater Than]

Presser live now.

Governor and FBI director.

 

[tbum]

Suspect's IG account - https://www.instagram.com/naota333/

No recent activity

 

[DatelineFan]

This is absolutely horrific. What is happening in the world? So many people will be forever traumatized from this. I can't imagine being there and setting foot into an airport again. my heart goes out to each survivor and the families of the victims, as well as the employees and especially LE and other first responders.