FL - Five killed, 8 wounded in shooting at Fort Lauderdale Airport, 6 Jan 2017

  • #261
It would have no effect on them.

I;m not sure about that. These are typically weak, vengeful people who want to be seen as tough and manly. They harbor secret and intense feelings of narcissistic rage - knowing deep down that they are less than everyone else and in great fear that everyone will find out.

I want them to know that everyone found out.
 
  • #262
Does we know WHY he was traveling to Florida?
 
  • #263
I disagree wholeheartedly with this official. Try telling that to the thousands of people who fled in terror that this was not terrorism.

I dont care if it was domestic terrorism, home grown terrorism, or any other kind of terrorism. It was definitely some form of terrorism in my book.

Im getting tired of officials trying to put labels on things. How about just calling them all Mass Murderers. The perps all need prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law no matter what their stupid reason is to commit mass murder.

There is a difference between ideological terrorism and someone who snaps or has mental issues that needs psychiatric help. The end result is the same, yes, people are full of terror. But the label of "terrorism" has changed to mean based in extreme ideological motivation.
 
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So Santiago was a war veteran, had previously been in contact with LE, FBI, had been sectioned in a psychiatric hospital. There were some warning flags there.

OMG Sen Bill Nelson "he's a mental case". Well, Mr Nelson, I hope you never have psychological problems, you orange, decrepit, ill-informed, coffin dodger! :banghead:

:laughing:

(sorry)
 
  • #266
Does we know WHY he was traveling to Florida?

His Instagram shows a pic, of him w/his cousin, in Fla., a few years back. Possible family connections?
 
  • #267
per msnbc citing interview with brother - suspect moved to alaska for work, was fighting with a lot of people, having relationship trouble, had girlfriend and son, was "pro-america", had psychological issues - sometimes he is good, sometimes he is bad, fought with significant other a lot
 
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I;m not sure about that. These are typically weak, vengeful people who want to be seen as tough and manly. They harbor secret and intense feelings of narcissistic rage - knowing deep down that they are less than everyone else and in great fear that everyone will find out.

I want them to know that everyone found out.

Seriously. I'm so past the humane treatment of these losers. It actually makes me doubt what kind of heart I have and question my own humanity, because, I'm at the point where I think just stick them in one of those old time zoo train carts and parade them around for people to throw rotten vegetables at. I don't even care what the WHY of what they did is, I just want them to know, they will have it so bad if they do something like this they would prefer the DP.
 
  • #270
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...shooting-Ft-Lauderdale-Hollywood-Airport.html

photo here.


Santiago was a combat engineer in the Army National Guard, and served one year in Iraq before being honorably discharged last year, the Army Criminal Investigation Division confirmed.



I know someone that was on heroine in germany and he was able to get out and received an honorable discharge, so I don't take those seriously. Lot's of folks that are caught doing wrong in companies are allowed to leave with an unblemished record so they can gain reemployment.jmo
 
  • #271
CBS reporting Santiago previously walked into the FBI in Alaska saying he is being forced to watch ISIS videos. The FBI took him to a mental health facility. (sorry, I missed when he did this.)

OK,I retract my thinking he was intoxicated.
 
  • #272
I;m not sure about that. These are typically weak, vengeful people who want to be seen as tough and manly. They harbor secret and intense feelings of narcissistic rage - knowing deep down that they are less than everyone else and in great fear that everyone will find out.

I want them to know that everyone found out.

Seriously. I'm so past the humane treatment of these losers. It actually makes me doubt what kind of heart I have and question my own humanity, because, I'm at the point where I think just stick them in one of those old time zoo train carts and parade them around for people to throw rotten vegetables at. I don't even care what the WHY of what they did is, I just want them to know, they will have it so bad if they do something like this they would prefer the DP.


I see where you're both coming from but I think you need to differentiate between
1) Killers who kill for the sheer hell of it
2) Killers with verifiable psychological issues

I don't believe they are the same, nor should they be treated with the same contempt. No, I've (fortunately) never lost a loved-one to either of these types of people. But I have had close relations with mental health problems and have personally suffered PTSD myself, so perhaps I have more empathy to type 2 than others. For the record, I have no empathy for type 1 and think that type of killer should be executed post-haste!
 
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Interesting reconnaissance pattern

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The brother of the man who has been tentatively named as the suspect in a deadly shooting at a Florida airport says the suspect had been receiving psychological treatment while living in Alaska.

Bryan Santiago tells The Associated Press that his family got a call in recent months from 26-year-old Esteban Santiago's girlfriend alerting them to the situation.

Bryan Santiago said he didn't know what his brother was being treated for and that they never talked about it over the phone.

He said Esteban Santiago was born in New Jersey but moved to the U.S. territory of Puerto Rico when he was 2 years old. He said Esteban Santiago grew up in the southern coastal town of Penuelas and served with the island's National Guard for a couple of years. He was deployed to Iraq in 2010 and spent a year there with the 130th Engineer Battalion, the 1013th engineer company out of Aguadilla, according to Puerto Rico National Guard spokesman Maj. Paul Dahlen.

http://www.kake.com/story/34201942/reports-multiple-people-shot-at-ft-lauderdale-airport
 
  • #278
CBS reporting Santiago previously walked into the FBI in Alaska saying he is being forced to watch ISIS videos. The FBI took him to a mental health facility. (sorry, I missed when he did this.)

And yet he had an automatic weapon and was able to check it into his baggage. SMH
 
  • #279
In the photo at the dailymail link I posted he is holding out his index finger, I googled it and saw this. just sayin. idk


When ISIS militants hold up a single index finger on their hand, they are alluding to the tawhid, the belief in the oneness of Allah and a key component of the Muslim religion.

http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.462/the-meaning-of-the-isis-hand-sign.html
A lot of people hold up their index finger in photos. It may have nothing to do with Islam.
 
  • #280
rbbm.
http://www.cp24.com/world/fort-lauderdale-airport-shooter-had-no-rhyme-or-reason-to-attack-1.3230580
Chip LaMarca, a Broward County commissioner who was briefed on the attack by the sheriff's office, had said the shooter had arrived aboard a Canadian flight, but Canadian officials said that was not the case.

Canadian Embassy spokeswoman Christine Constantin said in an email to The Associated Press that the suspect did not travel from Canada and was not on an Air Canada flight. She said the suspect has no connection to Canada

The shooting happened at the airport's terminal 2, where Air Canada and Delta operate flights.
"We understand from officials he was on a flight originating in Anchorage, transiting through Minneapolis and landing in Ft. Lauderdale," Constantin's email says.

Global Affairs Canada also said the flight on which Fort Lauderdale airport suspect arrived did not originate in Canada nor was a Canadian carrier involved. Air Canada said it has no record of any passenger with the name of suspect nor of any checked guns on any of its flights to the city.
 

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