FL - Five killed, 8 wounded in shooting at Fort Lauderdale Airport, 6 Jan 2017

[human]

Whether people believe his expetience in the military contibuted to his issues or not, it is beyond shameful that he could not get the help he was begging for. He served.

I see people thanking soldiers for their service. Ok. How about providing care in addition to a verbal thanks.

 

[Gardenista]

FORT LAUDERDALE (CBS12) — A Broward County Sheriff's Office Deputy has been suspended in connection with TMZ leaked video of the Ft. Lauderdale Airport attack, according to CBS Miami.

Deputy Michael Dingman, 46, who is based at the Fort Lauderdale airport, was suspended with pay on Tuesday. He has been a Broward deputy for 21 years.

http://cbs12.com/news/local/bso-deputy-suspended-over-tmz-leaked-fll-airport-video

 

[popsicle]

Whether people believe his expetience in the military contibuted to his issues or not, it is beyond shameful that he could not get the help he was begging for. He served.

I see people thanking soldiers for their service. Ok. How about providing care in addition to a verbal thanks.

He was hospitalized... why did he leave? They can only hold him for so long and then he can leave unless he switches over to voluntary admit.

 

[CARIIS]

He was hospitalized... why did he leave? They can only hold him for so long and then he can leave unless he switches over to voluntary admit.

I am sorry it is just not how it works there are no beds-our choices were we got a person in a coma drugged to death, unable to move and drueling, that could not hurt anyone, and someone in admission that was being wrestled to the ground.

There are no beds

just the way it was

 

[dotr]

Hi my dear

I wanted to see inside can you get that?? In terms of depression living like that

Some pics nicer than others..
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[CARIIS]

FORT LAUDERDALE (CBS12) — A Broward County Sheriff's Office Deputy has been suspended in connection with TMZ leaked video of the Ft. Lauderdale Airport attack, according to CBS Miami.

Deputy Michael Dingman, 46, who is based at the Fort Lauderdale airport, was suspended with pay on Tuesday. He has been a Broward deputy for 21 years.

http://cbs12.com/news/local/bso-deputy-suspended-over-tmz-leaked-fll-airport-video

WOW the almighty buck

 

[CARIIS]

Some pics nicer than others..
https://www.tripadvisor.ca/ShowUser...pqugiaq_Inn-Anchorage_Alaska.html#UR176352278
https://www.google.ca/search?q=The+Qupqugiaq+Inn+in+midtown+Anchorage,+Alaska&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwirwYTS4rjRAhXJ7YMKHelDCNYQ_AUICigD&biw=1303&bih=633#imgrc=pGK0H2EokdzhiM%3A

that is no different than jail and wildly depressing ty

 

[CARIIS]

Whether people believe his expetience in the military contibuted to his issues or not, it is beyond shameful that he could not get the help he was begging for. He served.

I see people thanking soldiers for their service. Ok. How about providing care in addition to a verbal thanks.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

it costs a lot to build bombs

 

[jagdpanther3]

Whether people believe his expetience in the military contibuted to his issues or not, it is beyond shameful that he could not get the help he was begging for. He served.

I see people thanking soldiers for their service. Ok. How about providing care in addition to a verbal thanks.

While I believe there should be more help for vets he chose to not get it and do this. Speaks to the "it's never ur fault mentality" that is getting more popular in this country. Never hold anyone responsible for their own actions.

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[jagdpanther3]

Do agree he should have never been allowed access to a gun though. If u show up at the FBI and say crazy stuff that should be a red flag right there.

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[CARIIS]

Do agree he should have never been allowed access to a gun though. If u show up at the FBI and say crazy stuff that should be a red flag right there.

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Legally you can not prohibit someone from owning again until they are adjudicated mentally ill - which takes years persistence, and still unlikely

The FBI did what they could within the law , with the data they had

it is just so not that easy to go to the next level of adjudicated mental - it is about stipping someone of their rights

it is no different than what many believe about guns and stuff

judges just dont do it

if that is not the case the FBI or anyone c annot prohibit him from having a gun, invol comment unless he is an active in the moment threat to self or someone else

if you think he might harm somebody in the future -- useless- that it is why he ended up invol -- he did not go in the FBI office threatening anything

he was asking for help -- one cannot be committed for that - he has to be menacing in the here and now -- if not he can not be invol committed

they did a great job getting him to vol admit

ithat says tons about where he was -- scared of himself he was threatening no one

that is how it is they did what they could at that time nothing - that is why by law they had to return the gun



how the system works

 

[jagdpanther3]

Legally you can not prohibit someone from owning again until they are adjudicated mentally ill - which takes years persistence, and still unlikely

The FBI did what they could within the law , with the data they had

it is just so not that easy to go to the next level of adjudicated mental - it is about stipping someone of their rights

it is no different than what many believe about guns and stuff

judges just dont do it

if that is not the case the FBI or anyone c annot prohibit him from having a gun, invol comment unless he is an active in the moment threat to self or someone else

if you think he might harm somebody in the future -- useless- that it is why he ended up invol -- he did not go in the FBI office threatening anything

he was asking for help -- one cannot be committed for that - he has to be menacing in the here and now -- if not he can not be invol committed

they did a great job getting him to vol admit

that says tons about where he was -- scared of himself he was threatening no one

how the system works

I agree it's how the system works. I'm just saying it should have been a huge red flag.

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[CARIIS]

While I believe there should be more help for vets he chose to not get it and do this. Speaks to the "it's never ur fault mentality" that is getting more popular in this country. Never hold anyone responsible for their own actions.

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but he did he went in and was scared

 

[jagdpanther3]

but he did he went in and was scared

He could have voluntary committed if he was that scared. He planned it anyway so the point is mute.

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[human]

FORT LAUDERDALE (CBS12) — A Broward County Sheriff's Office Deputy has been suspended in connection with TMZ leaked video of the Ft. Lauderdale Airport attack, according to CBS Miami.

Deputy Michael Dingman, 46, who is based at the Fort Lauderdale airport, was suspended with pay on Tuesday. He has been a Broward deputy for 21 years.

http://cbs12.com/news/local/bso-deputy-suspended-over-tmz-leaked-fll-airport-video

I believe it was inthedetails who said this was a surveillence video. Good eye!

 

[human]

While I believe there should be more help for vets he chose to not get it and do this. Speaks to the "it's never ur fault mentality" that is getting more popular in this country. Never hold anyone responsible for their own actions.

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Chose! Ok. A mentally ill man " chose". No words

 

[katydid23]

Chose! Ok. A mentally ill man " chose". No words

He was evaluated in a mental hospital----he was not found to be a danger to himself or others. He was allowed to leave, and retrieve his weapon.

So I am not sure that we can label him as all that 'mentally ill. '

 

[CARIIS]

He was hospitalized... why did he leave? They can only hold him for so long and then he can leave unless he switches over to voluntary admit.

Even under vol admit folks just cannot stay there --there are no beds - they get dced after they drugged enough not to kill anyone right away after dc. (lawsuit stuff- the doc would have some issues if dced person went out and killed someone, on the way out of the hospital - in the lobby would be really bad!!!!!!!)).

Put em in a coma (drooling ideal - not kidding) and DC- how it worked I am sorry to report.

Throw em out before the weekend big theme. It got repulsive.

I was blown away when we first heard 14 days - which then changed back to 4 days which sounds right .

14 days is unheard of !

Vol/invol means nothing as it relates to length of stay any more.


No $$$

 

[CARIIS]

He was evaluated in a mental hospital----he was not found to be a danger to himself or others. He was allowed to leave, and retrieve his weapon.

So I am not sure that we can label him as all that 'mentally ill. '

Because of financial disincentives, hospitals are micro-hospitalizing individuals: discharging as quickly as possible. The authors argue that they are doing this by skipping taking appropriate medical histories, doing important medical workups, failing to titrate medications, failing to make sure they can survive safely in the community and have appropriate follow up services. Micro-hospitalization is having a deleterious effect on patients.


Inpatient psychiatric care in the 21st century is defined by ultrashort lengths of stay. In the last two decades of the 20th century, length of stay for psychiatric inpatient care decreased from months to days. The sole focus of psychiatric inpatient treatment has become safety and crisis stabilization

average length of stay is five or six days (when I started average length was 21 days- near retirement it was 23 hours , yes 23 hours in the 24th hour another whole day was billed) out they go!

Moving the patient through this hospital assembly line requires that diagnostic assessment be completed within 24 but no more than 48 hours. However, admission requirements that focus on dangerousness as the only criterion for medical necessity of an inpatient stay ignore the realities of mental illness

We had about 90 minutes to diagnose.


It is worth noting that patients admitted late in the week (Friday or Saturday) may spend the entire critical period of assessment, diagnostic formulation, treatment planning, and treatment initiation in the care of covering physicians, who are often “moonlighters.”

that is what I observed as well(above)

model of care based on established principles that have been lost in the length-of-stay crush

Focusing primarily on safety issues requires a parsing of clinical judgments that is too narrow and specific for the ambiguous clinical realities we so often face

http://www.mentalillnesspolicy.org/imd/longer-hospital-stay.html

 

[CARIIS]

I believe it was inthedetails who said this was a surveillence video. Good eye!

Human!

Your attention to details is amazing! The fact that you could remember , in detail, that it was inthedetails, that noticed that, in detail, is an amazing focus on details !!!!